Scene where the music is too loud

[randoomdude]

Towards the end of Saikoroshi, when Rika finds out her mom has the gem and she talks to Hanyuu, the audi mixing has the bgm get really loud and adjusting it doesn't do anything, it makes the voices hard to hear.

Mod installed yesterday
Windows 10

[drojf]

Here's a video of this particular scene with all the volumes set to default.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ar-lAVeetlqhhMBETJLqzQ8TzWC-fQ?e=SLuRvq

However I noticed that playing other bits of rei with the defualt volume settings (everything at 50%) had similarly quiet voices? Maybe it's just the default setting has the voices too low or something? And that track in particular is loud all the time, so it's hard to hear?

[drojf]

I tested ch 3 tatari and it seems slightly better on the default settings, but not hugely better, personally I would bump the volume just a bit if I were playing myself.

I'm not entirely sure if we should action this issue, given that you can just bump the voice volume to fix it. I think the issue is more the particular BGM being loud and the hanyuu's voice being quiet, rather than it being something we need to fix with this scene.

Possible actions:

• Adjust the volume of this particular BGM in all the scripts (or just this scene?)
• make the default voice volume higher (say 70% volume instead of 50%).
• do nothing, rely on users to bump the default voice volume themselves (not just for this scene, for their entire playthrough as the voice volume seems consistently low in Rei)

[orian34]

Sounds llike upping voice volume default for rei could be a good option

[drojf]

I checked our mod's code, and the default voice volume is actually 75, not 50 (for all chapters). So probably the default volume was OK (my own testing was at 50% volume)

@randoomdude, what volume value are you using (approximately)? or is it the default value?

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I also noticed a bug (in rei, but probably also in all chapters) where the first time you start the game, the sliders will have the wrong values (they will look like they're at 100% when they're actually at 50% or 75% for voice).

If you visited the config menu the first time you boot the game, this might make you want to reset them all to 50%. since they look too high.

[randoomdude]

The value was like 80 and I lowered it to 40 and didn't notice a difference

[drojf]

The value was like 80 and I lowered it to 40 and didn't notice a difference

I actually missed the part in your intial post which said "and adjusting it doesn't do anything" with reference to adjusting the BGM volume. If this happens, this is definitely a bug in our mod logic and something I want to look into and fix.

I assume you're talking about adjusting the BGM volume in the main config menu? The volume should definitely change when you adjust the slider. See this video: https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ar-lAVeetlqhhMBmbKE8XfVyGAmO7A?e=SdusUB

If the BGM volume really doesn't change at all, is that at all scenes in the game? or just when you load that particular save?

If you were referring to the voice volume, if it were already 80, you shouldn't lower it as that would make the voices quieter.

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Assuming the above is not the issue, I think perhaps the issue is that the BGM files themselves don't have consistent volumes. I had to set the BGM volume to something like 20-30% and the voice volume to 75% for the voices to be very clear during that scene when "as time goes by" plays. But on other scenes, 50% BGM and 75% voice is OK.

We could implement a custom ReplayGain system, or just re-encode all the BGM which are loud to fix it. I'm not sure if that's worth doing though. Or just adjust the game script for this one scene to compensate.

[orian34]

I wonder if it's related to the issue with mismatched menu? Although that was fixed before

[drojf]

Yea, I was thinking about that too, but that should only happen if they are using the old sharedassets file. But from their screenshot, they should be using the new sharedassets file (the UI is red colored (new) instead of blue colored (old)).

@randoomdude Can you take a screenshot of your config menu (click the CONFIG button from the main menu) and upload it here? It should look roughly like the below picture.

If you're on the above screen, even on the main menu, dragging the "MUSIC VOLUME" slider should cause the background cicadas sound effect to become more quiet. And when fully to the left, you shouldn't be able to hear the cicadas at all.