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ACCC & DSB | CDR Implementation Call Agenda & Meeting Notes | 24th of March 2022
When: Weekly every Thursday at 3pm-4.30pm AEDT
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- 5 min will be allowed for participants to join the call.
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We acknowledge the Traditional Custodians of the various lands on which we work today and the Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people participating in this call.
We pay our respects to Elders past, present and emerging, and recognise and celebrate the diversity of Aboriginal peoples and their ongoing cultures and connections to the lands and waters of Australia.
Type | Topic | Update |
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Standards | Version 1.16.1 Published | Link to change log here |
Maintenance | DSB Maintenance Iteration 10: Agenda & Meeting Notes on 16th of March 2022 | Link to the agenda and minutes |
Maintenance | Meet next week 30th of March 2022 | |
TSY Newsletter | To subscribe to TSY Newsletter | Link here |
DSB Newsletter | To subscribe to DSB Newsletter | Link here |
TSY Newsletter | 21st of March 2022 | View in browser here |
DSB Newsletter | 18th of March 2022 | View in browser here |
DSB Newsletter | Correction of links in 18th of March 2022 | New open source design assets and prototypes for Consent Management (Data recipient): Collection and use New open source design assets and prototypes for Consent Management (Data recipient): Disclosure consents Updated page titles and hierarchy for Consent Management New open source design assets and prototypes for Consent Management (Data recipient): Withdrawal General updates and revisions to the CX Guidelines including additions to accommodate the energy sector, slight requirement modifications, and open source assets Updated CX Checklist (on website) related to CX standards |
Consultation | Normative Standards Review (2021) | No Close Date Link to consultation |
Consultation | Decision Proposal 229 - CDR Participant Representation | Placeholder: no close date Link to consultation |
Consultation | Decision Proposal 240 - ADR Metrics | Feedback closes 15th of April 2022 Link to consultation |
Design Paper | Design Paper: Consumer Data Right Rules and Standards for the Telecommunications Sector | Link to DSB GitHub Link to Treasury page |
CX Guidelines | Updated v1.16.0 of the downloadable CX Checklist | Link to the CX Guidelines |
Knowledge | Video 21: Decision Proposal 240 - narrated by Neale Morison (22/03/2022) | Link to video |
Provides a weekly update on the activities of each of the CDR streams and their stream of work
Organisation | Stream | Member |
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ACCC | CDR Register | Hopeson Chiao |
ACCC | CTS | Andrea Gibney |
DSB | CX Standards | Michael Palmyre |
DSB | Technical Standards - Register | Ivan Hosgood |
DSB | Technical Standards - Energy | Hemang Rathod |
DSB | Technical Standards - Banking | Mark Verstege |
DSB | Technical Standards - Engineering | James Bligh |
None.
Questions will be received by the community via WebEx chat before the questions are opened to the floor. Participants can submit questions outside of the CDR Implementation Call to the CDR Support Portal.
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The following table will be updated after the meeting.
Ticket # | Question | Answer |
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1347 | Taken on notice from 10th of February 2022 - Can secondary users be classified as vulnerable? | We have published new public guidance today that we trust will answer your question. You can find the new guidance here: https://cdr-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4559246860047 |
1351 | Taken on notice from 10th of February 2022 - If a vulnerable flag is removed should historical arrangements be visible to all parties? | We have published new public guidance today that we trust will answer your question. You can find the new guidance here: https://cdr-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4559246860047 |
1369 | At present the rules make provision for managing vulnerable customers in relation to sharing data (Rules 3.5(1) and 4.7(1)) and in relation to joint accounts (Rule 4A.15). However there appears no relief in relation to secondary users who are vulnerable. At present it appears mandatory to provide the account owner with visibility and control over the actions of a secondary user (Rules 1.15(5) and 4.28). A common secondary user scenario is that of a credit card with a secondary card holder. It is likely that a vulnerable customer would be a secondary card holder and thus a secondary user. Is it intended that secondary users are not protected from harm? If this logic is incorrect, can you please explain how vulnerable secondary users are protected. Thanks. | We have just published new public guidance today that we trust will answer your question. You can find this new guidance here: https://cdr-support.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4559246860047 |
1397 | As per standards, plan eligibility details can be provided for existing accounts in the GetAccountDetails API > ElectricityContract > PlanEligibility (optional) section. There are some plan eligibility managed in system and some are managed through business process using work instruction etc., Can you please confirm if ok to provide only the eligibility managed in system? Note: Customer is already onboarded & account is open/active based on eligibility (at the point of establishing contract). |
For public tariffs the response should contain all forms of eligibility whether automated or not. For Account Details, given the customer is already onboarded, plan eligibility can be left out. The customer must have been eligible for the plan to be originated to start with. |
1408 | With reference to point 4 above - non-normative examples https://consumerdatastandardsaustralia.github.io/standards/?examples#security-endpoints Non-Normative Example ## Request GET /.well-known/openid-configuration HTTP/1.1 Response as per the standards "response_types_supported": ["code id_token"], "response_modes_supported": ["fragment"], "id_token_signing_alg_values_supported": ["ES256", "PS256"], "id_token_encryption_alg_values_supported": [ "RSA-OAEP", "RSA-OAEP-256", "dir", "ECDH-ES", "ECDH-ES+A128KW", "ECDH-ES+A192KW", "ECDH-ES+A256KW", "A128KW", "A192KW", "A256KW", "A128GCMKW", "A192GCMKW", "A256GCMKW" ], "id_token_encryption_enc_values_supported": [ "A128CBC-HS256", "A192CBC-HS384", "A256CBC-HS512", "A128GCM", "A192GCM", "A256GCM" ], What is missing from the response? - "response_types" field values ["code"] - "authorization_signed_response_alg" , - "authorization_encrypted_response_alg", - "authorization_encrypted_response_enc" |
These are being updated under a change request being worked on in Maintenance Iteration 10 (this iteration) so they are intended for correction in v1.17.0 of the data standards. |
1416 | Please confirm, if Hybrid flow is implemented then “ID Token as detached signature” implementation listed as part of FAPI 1.0 Advanced is required or not? We understand that JARM is not required with Hybrid flow. Is that a correct understanding? |
Your understanding looks correct. If Data Holders support the Hybrid flow they must continue to do so by signing AND encrypting the ID token such that it can be used as a detached signature. Data Holders MAY drop ID Token encryption if they use JARM which can only be used for the Authorisation Code Flow. |
1417 | For Get Transaction for Account if the text query is not implemented by the DH then can you share a sample response please | You would need to populate the isQueryParamUnsupported in the meta object as part of the response. You would return the full unfiltered result set in the data object. |
1419 | Could you let us know the expected properties for the Links Pagination [1] when a request (e.g. GET cds-au/v1/banking/accounts) returns only one total page? Currently, what we are getting is the following for the link section of the response. "links":{ "self":"https:///cds-au/v1/banking/accounts?page=1&page-size=25", "first":"https:///cds-au/v1/banking/accounts?page=1&page-size=25", "last":"https:///cds-au/v1/banking/accounts?page=1&page-size=25" } [1] https://consumerdatastandardsaustralia.github.io/standards/#tocSlinkspaginated |
the example response you provide is correct. LinksPaginated includes a number of optional fields which are to be returned depending on the page location in the result set. Since there is only one page of results obtainable using the pagination filters, you would not present a "next" and "prev" value. |
1432 | The CDR is specifying a variety of error URNs to be used in responses to DRs at https://consumerdatastandardsaustralia.github.io/standards/#error-codes. Can DHs respond with self made URNs for cases that are not specified in the CDS? Or should DHs only use specified URLs and use urn:au-cds:error:cds-all:GeneralError/Expected or urn:au-cds:error:cds-all: GeneralError/Unexpected for unspecified cases. |
Yes you can use your own URN but it must be presented as a custom error code not presented in the URN field.There is further information here: https://consumerdatastandardsaustralia.github.io/standards/#error-codes Data Holders implementing custom error codes must choose one of the fallback CDR error codes for use in the "urn" field so that ADRs can reliably map custom error codes for each DH to a generalised CDR error. |
View a number of informative and useful links in the Consumer Data Standards Implementation Guide on Information Links.