Actions 'restore_saved_target_temperature' and 'set_temp_target_temperature' are missing after the latest update?

[Chewbacca222222]

Long story short I have an automation in HA whereas if were away for a long period of time I used to run the 'set_temp_target_temperature' action and set all thermostats to 7°C. Then on returning home the action 'restore_saved_target_temperature' would set all the thermostats back to the previous state.

This was extremely helpful as otherwise I would have to save all the current temperatures in helpers and restore them back again. Did this action just get moved or is it completely removed and/or can anyone suggest an alternative?

[mayber143]

I experienced the same issue with blueprint "Better Thermostat Night mode" and got errors in the log concerning these actions. After updating to the version of blueprint "Better Thermostat Night mode" the errors were gone and I saw that the actions are no longer used but the new presets.
So with BT 1.8.0 you might need to use the presets.

[Chewbacca222222]

Right, yeah, I thought thit may be the case as I did some reading around presets and it seemed to be the only path.

Thanks for letting me know 👍

[KartoffelToby]

I actually thought that these functions would no longer be used due to the new preset system. If there is that much interest, I will put them back in.

[Chewbacca222222]

I actually thought that these functions would no longer be used due to the new preset system. If there is that much interest, I will put them back in.

Imo I preferred them as I'm more of a 'global set and forget' type. That being said I'm more than happy to update my automation to use the presets, not the hardest thing to do!

+1 for the update, really like it, documentation is great and the configurator is super cool 👌

[jorgeferreira-ui]

I actually thought that these functions would no longer be used due to the new preset system. If there is that much interest, I will put them back in.

Would you mind? I'm also using the "set_temp_target_temperature" in all my actions. My philosophy was a bit different because I have helpers that save the temperature that I want to use per area and per time of day. Once we configure that the BetterThermostat was like a glove for it.

Otherwise which action is available to change the preset and how to use them?

Thank you and have a great day.

[StormCh]

Hey, I also use this type of service (better_thermostat.set_temp_target_temperature). Due to the missing on Version 1.8.2 I switched back to 1.7.0. BTW the service is still described on https://better-thermostat.org/deep-explanations/schedule-and-night-mode/

IMHO, the removal of this services should be marked, noted as a BREAKING CHANGE.

If you would mind, I would give a +1 for reimplementation!

[cl445]

Hi @Chewbacca222222, you're right — both actions were removed in 1.8.0. They've been replaced by the new preset system, which has the save/restore behaviour built in, so your away/return automation can be rebuilt without juggling helpers.

How presets replace the old actions:

• Switching a Better Thermostat to a preset (e.g. away) automatically saves the current target temperature and applies the preset's temperature.
• Switching the preset back to none restores the previously saved temperature.
• Each preset's temperature is set through its own Number entity that BT creates — e.g. Preset Away (number.<your_thermostat>_preset_away). Set that to 7 °C and the away preset will target 7 °C (it's clamped to the thermostat's min temperature if you go lower).

Your automation becomes:

• Leaving home: climate.set_preset_mode with preset_mode: away on your thermostats — no need to read and stash the current temperatures yourself anymore.
• Returning home: climate.set_preset_mode with preset_mode: none — BT restores whatever each thermostat was set to before.

If you'd rather not build it by hand, there's a ready-made blueprint that does exactly this based on presence (person / device_tracker / an occupancy binary_sensor): Better Thermostat: Away preset when nobody is home (blueprints/presence_away_preset.yaml).

Hope that helps — the new approach is quite a bit less fiddly than the old save-to-helpers dance.

[Chewbacca222222]

Thank you for the update @cl445, yeah I think that's my current plan to update them all to use presets. Honestly with the weather were having at the moment the last thing on my mind is heating!

In regards to what @StormCh said I still would prefer to use the global functions, is there a chance they would be added back in? If not I'll switch the the presets :)