Crashing upon song render ~90% of the time

[MTSyntho]

System Information

Windows 11 23H2

LMMS Version(s)

1.3.0-alpha.1.882+db6fc29

Most Recent Working Version

Honestly I'm unsure, probably around early 2025 if not late 2024

Bug Summary

Whenever I goto render the track, in any project ( new and old ), LMMS just stops responding completely, the only change I see is the window title writing something like "Rendering - 0% [Song Editor]"

I cannot recall the version I had prior as it was a nightly, all I recall was it didn't have the SlicerT and LOMM plugin at the time.

I find the only 2 workarounds around this are:

1. Opening the project in a fresh instance ( must not have been open for too long ), and as soon as the project opens, go to render the song as quick as you can, only then will it start without issue ( closing any open windows in the project might help )

2. Rendering via the terminal with

lmms render projectfile.mmpz

I would use method 2 often if some of projects didn't use a VST that requires enabling every new session ( MTPDK2 )

Anyway due to this issue, I am completely unable to render my new track simply due to being too heavy, meaning it takes forever to load, thus making method 1 difficult if not impossible to execute correctly

As far as I know, I seem to be the only person experiencing this issue which is rather strange...

Expected Behaviour

The track should've began rendering without hanging the process.

Steps To Reproduce

1. Open a project, preferably anything heavy and takes a little while to load in ( VST-heavy // heavy VSTs )
2. Goto File and Click "Export" ( alternatively, click on "Export current project" icon )
3. After setting your file name and type, click "Okay" ( or is it "Render"? )

Logs

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 Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.22631.5624]
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C:\Users\User\Documents\mt\LMMS\Projects>lmms "I CANT SING.mmpz"
C:\Users\User\Documents\mt\LMMS\Projects>Cannot load library C:\Program Files\LMMS\plugins\carlabase.dll: The specified module could not be found.

Cannot load library C:\Program Files\LMMS\plugins\carlapatchbay.dll: The specified module could not be found.

Cannot load library C:\Program Files\LMMS\plugins\carlarack.dll: The specified module could not be found.

unique ID: SRvb

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Sanford Reverb

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

fluidsynth: warning: No preset found on channel 9 [bank=128 prog=0]

fluidsynth: warning: No preset found on channel 9 [bank=128 prog=0]

unique ID: PLGQ

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 0  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: sforzando

Unknown embed method "none"

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: EMS1

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Ignite - Emissary

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: NDIR

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Ignite - NadIR

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: PLGQ

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 0  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: sforzando

Unknown embed method "none"

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: EMS1

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Ignite - Emissary

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: NDIR

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Ignite - NadIR

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

QtXmlWrapper::loadXMLfile(): empty data

unique ID: apls

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 0  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Ample Bass P Lite II

Unknown embed method "none"

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: EMS1

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Ignite - Emissary

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: NDIR

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Ignite - NadIR

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: SRvb

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Sanford Reverb

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: MTPD

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 0  output: 16

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: MT-PowerDrumKit

Unknown embed method "none"

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: IVG2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: IVGI2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: D2rt

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Dirty Filter Plus

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

unique ID: SRvb

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: inputs: 2  output: 2

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: creating editor

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: editor successfully created

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: plugin name: Sanford Reverb

RemotePlugin::DebugMessage: initialization done

SHGetFileInfo() timed out for  C:\Users\User\Documents\mt\LMMS\Projects\I CANT SING.wav
C:\Users\User\Documents\mt\LMMS\Projects>QObject::~QObject: Timers cannot be stopped from another thread
C:\Users\User\Documents\mt\LMMS\Projects>

Screenshots / Minimum Reproducible Project

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[regulus79]

Are you able to get any kind of backtrace if you run lmms with gdb?

[sakertooth]

Probably FIFO thread shenanigans.

Look into trying out #7568.

[musikBear]

What else is running when you attempt to render?
Do you routinely restart your pc?
@sakertooth @regulus79 can you reproduce this on that 1.3.0-alpha.1.882+db6fc29 or current Nightly? I cant on 1.3 "stable"Alpha

(I 👺our absurd confusing nomenclature! It should nót be ambiguous -Maybe we should start referring to 1.3s as they are marked on DL

So Nightly has that @ed0 stamp. But then back to the snakepit: What alpha? -exactly

[MTSyntho]

What else is running when you attempt to render?
Do you routinely restart your pc?
@sakertooth @regulus79 can you reproduce this on that 1.3.0-alpha.1.882+db6fc29 or current Nightly? I cant on 1.3 "stable"Alpha

(I 👺our absurd confusing nomenclature! It should nót be ambiguous -Maybe we should start referring to 1.3s as they are marked on DL

So Nightly has that @ed0 stamp. But then back to the snakepit: What alpha? -exactly

Nothing else, It's always just LMMS running, it's ghe first thing I open most days, aside from explorer in the background, i usually perform a full shutdown after each session.

[MTSyntho]

Are you able to get any kind of backtrace if you run lmms with gdb?

I suppose I'll try a little later today