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  1. Adjust HIDDEN_SIZE to 4096. The DeepEP version we use does not support 2560 hidden size.
  2. Adjust test impl. The per rank function now accepts CPU inputs and tensor to avoid a weird integer overflow of MPI execution(Maybe caused by too many GPU memory are captured).
  3. Fix Wide EP fake impl
  4. Apply a reduce in the test if topk dimension is not reduced for MNNVL

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    • Wide MoE inference now exposes a "fake" forward path that returns a bfloat16-shaped placeholder for a specific all-to-all execution path while preserving prior outputs elsewhere.
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    • Distributed MOE tests updated for per-rank data/weight handling, moved preparation to host-side, added CUDA synchronization, increased hidden-size coverage, and added validation comparing fake vs. real forward outputs.

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@liji-nv liji-nv requested a review from a team as a code owner November 3, 2025 12:34
1. Adjust HIDDEN_SIZE to 4096. The DeepEP version we use does not support
2560 hidden size.
2. Adjust test impl. The per rank function now accepts CPU inputs and
tensor to avoid a weird integer overflow of MPI execution(Maybe caused
by too many GPU memory are captured).
3. Fix Wide EP fake impl
4. Apply a reduce in the test if topk dimension is not reduced for
MNNVL

Signed-off-by: Jin Li <[email protected]>
@liji-nv liji-nv force-pushed the dev-liji-fused-moe-test branch from 4d0ea39 to 403b035 Compare November 3, 2025 12:40
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Adds forward_fake to WideEPMoE that calls the parent with output_dtype=bfloat16 and conditionally returns either an empty tensor for the MNNVL alltoall path or the parent's output. Refactors fused-MOE tests to move CUDA placement into per-rank scope, add synchronizations, and adjust FP4 test sizes and validation.

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WideEPMoE forward_fake method
tensorrt_llm/_torch/modules/fused_moe/fused_moe_wide_ep.py
Adds forward_fake to WideEPMoE which calls super().forward_fake(..., output_dtype=torch.bfloat16, ...) and returns an empty tensor shaped [batch, experts_per_token, features] when alltoall_method_type is MNNVL, otherwise returns the parent moe_output.
Fused MOE test refactoring
tests/unittest/_torch/modules/test_fused_moe.py
Changes per_rank_test_fused_moe_alltoall signature to (job_id, weights, x_list); prepares per-rank data on host then moves to device inside per-rank execution; adds torch.cuda.synchronize() calls; increases FP4 HIDDEN_SIZE from 2560→4096; adds forward_fake vs forward output validation and 3D-output handling; removes immediate .cuda() during global preparation; introduces debug prints.

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    participant Caller
    participant WideEPMoE
    participant Parent (MoE Base)

    Caller->>WideEPMoE: forward_fake(x, router_logits, ...)
    WideEPMoE->>Parent: forward_fake(..., output_dtype=bfloat16, ...)
    Parent-->>WideEPMoE: moe_output
    alt alltoall_method_type == MNNVL
        Note right of WideEPMoE #f0f8ff: Placeholder branch for MNNVL
        WideEPMoE-->>Caller: empty_tensor(shape=[batch, experts_per_token, features])
    else other alltoall methods
        Note right of WideEPMoE #f9fbe7: Preserve parent output
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288-289: Drop stray debug print.

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File: cpp/tensorrt_llm/kernels/cutlass_kernels/moe_gemm/moe_kernels.cu:4010-4012
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Learning: In TensorRT-LLM blockScaleMoe routing (cpp/tensorrt_llm/kernels/trtllmGenKernels/blockScaleMoe/runner.cu), the DeepSeek routing method performs reinterpret_cast<float*>(routingLogits) at line 89, which could cause issues if routing_logits are BF16. However, Qwen3-FP8 models use RenormalizeNaive routing method and are not affected by this dtype casting issue.
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LGTM

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w1_weight_nvfp4, w1_sf_block = torch.ops.trtllm.fp4_quantize(
w1_weight, w3_w1_global, SCALING_VECTOR_SIZE, False)
w1_weight.cuda(), w3_w1_global.cuda(), SCALING_VECTOR_SIZE,
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What's the meaning of removing all the device="cuda" above and add them back here?

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Is it sth relevant to Adjust test impl. The per rank function now accepts CPU inputs and tensor to avoid a weird integer overflow of MPI execution(Maybe caused by too many GPU memory are captured).?


x_list = x_list_world[mapping.rank]
weights = weights_world[mapping.rank]
weights = {k: v.cuda() for k, v in weights.items()}
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Same here. Why you replace all the .cuda(i) with .cpu() and add them back here? It may consume more time for weight preprocessing.

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