issue with tauon taking long time to launch

[ds47x]

i dont know if this a bug or issue on my end but after some updates tauon is taking like 2 min to lauch after clicking it. i dont know how or why but here are the logs

tauonmb -vvv
2026-03-08 21:46:32 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Tauon v9.1.0
2026-03-08 21:46:32 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Copyright 2015-2025 Taiko2k captain.gxj@gmail.com

2026-03-08 21:46:32 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Started with arguments: ['/usr/bin/tauonmb', '-vvv']
2026-03-08 21:48:40 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] SDL window system: wayland
2026-03-08 21:48:42 [WARNING] [  t_draw  ] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled. (t_draw.py:43)
2026-03-08 21:48:42 [WARNING] [  t_spot  ] Unable to import Tekore, Spotify support will be disabled. (t_spot.py:46)
2026-03-08 21:48:42 [WARNING] [ t_tidal  ] Unable to import tidalapi, Tidal support will be disabled. (t_tidal.py:20)
2026-03-08 21:48:42 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled. (t_main.py:233)
2026-03-08 21:48:42 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] Unable to import pypresence, Discord Rich Presence will be disabled. (t_main.py:254)
2026-03-08 21:48:42 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] Unable to import Chrome(pychromecast), chromecast support will be disabled. (t_main.py:287)
2026-03-08 21:48:43 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] PyOpenGL not found, Milkdrop visualizer will be disabled (t_main.py:36313)
2026-03-08 21:48:43 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Window size: [1366, 736]; Logical size: [1366, 736]
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Platform: linux
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Running from installed location
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Install directory:         /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Asset directory:           /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/assets
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Locale directory:          /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/locale
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Userdata directory:        /home/user/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Config directory:          /home/user/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Cache directory:           /home/user/.cache/TauonMusicBox
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Home directory:            /home/user
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Music directory:           /home/user/Music
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Downloads directory:       /home/user/Downloads
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Database loaded in 0.036 seconds.

(tauonmb:1866): libayatana-appindicator-WARNING **: 21:48:44.794: libayatana-appindicator is deprecated. Please use libayatana-appindicator-glib in newly written code.
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [WARNING] [_py_warnings] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/events.py:718: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  class GLibEventLoopPolicy(asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy):
 (_py_warnings.py:230)
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [WARNING] [_py_warnings] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/_ossighelper.py:266: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.get_event_loop_policy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  policy = asyncio.get_event_loop_policy()
 (_py_warnings.py:230)
Gtk-Message: 21:48:44.839: Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [t_webserve] Start controller server
2026-03-08 21:48:44 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Using SDL version: 3004002
2026-03-08 21:48:45 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Load Bio Data
2026-03-08 21:48:45 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Applying theme: Rose
2026-03-08 21:48:45 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Load Bio Data
2026-03-08 21:48:45 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Load cached bio and image
2026-03-08 21:48:45 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Auto save playtime
2026-03-08 21:48:45 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Save BMP to memory
2026-03-08 21:48:51 [ INFO  ] [ __init__ ] Exit PHAzOR

as you can see on the first few lines tauon takes like 2 minutes to launch

2026-03-08 21:46:32 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Started with arguments: ['/usr/bin/tauonmb', '-vvv']
2026-03-08 21:48:40 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] SDL window system: wayland

i cant understand the issue but it works fine if i launch it again after closing it so i guess the issue is with initialization

[C0rn3j]

If you install appmenu-gtk-module does it help any, other than getting rid of the error?

You can get a bit more logs if you enable debug mode in settings (on the last function page)

[ds47x]

thanks for the reply and no it didnt help appmenu-gtk-module just removed the error but launch time has decreased by a minute but i guess it depends on the load

after enabeling debug mode here is the conslole log

tauonmb -vvv
2026-03-08 22:28:12 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Tauon v9.1.0
2026-03-08 22:28:12 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Copyright 2015-2025 Taiko2k captain.gxj@gmail.com

2026-03-08 22:28:12 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Started with arguments: ['/usr/bin/tauonmb', '-vvv']
2026-03-08 22:28:12 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Debug mode enabled - saving log to /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox/tauon.log
2026-03-08 22:29:11 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] SDL available drivers: [b'opengl', b'opengles2', b'vulkan', b'gpu', b'software'] (__main__.py:424)
2026-03-08 22:29:11 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] PATH that will be used for ffmpeg/ffprobe and similar: /home/neba/.bin:/home/neba/.local/bin:/home/neba/.config/emacs/bin:/home/neba/Applications:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/default/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl (__main__.py:425)
2026-03-08 22:29:12 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] SDL window system: wayland
2026-03-08 22:29:13 [WARNING] [  t_draw  ] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled. (t_draw.py:43)
2026-03-08 22:29:13 [WARNING] [  t_spot  ] Unable to import Tekore, Spotify support will be disabled. (t_spot.py:46)
2026-03-08 22:29:13 [WARNING] [ t_tidal  ] Unable to import tidalapi, Tidal support will be disabled. (t_tidal.py:20)
2026-03-08 22:29:13 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled. (t_main.py:233)
2026-03-08 22:29:13 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] Unable to import pypresence, Discord Rich Presence will be disabled. (t_main.py:254)
2026-03-08 22:29:13 [ DEBUG ] [  t_main  ] pychromecast import error: No module named 'pychromecast' (t_main.py:286)
2026-03-08 22:29:13 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] Unable to import Chrome(pychromecast), chromecast support will be disabled. (t_main.py:287)
2026-03-08 22:29:14 [WARNING] [  t_main  ] PyOpenGL not found, Milkdrop visualizer will be disabled (t_main.py:36313)
2026-03-08 22:29:14 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Window size: [1366, 736]; Logical size: [1366, 736]
2026-03-08 22:29:14 [ DEBUG ] [  t_main  ] Found TLS cert file at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/certifi/cacert.pem (t_main.py:39704)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Platform: linux
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Running from installed location
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [  t_main  ] Found XDG-Downloads: /home/neba/Downloads in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs (t_main.py:42430)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [  t_main  ] Found XDG-Music:     /home/neba/Music     in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs (t_main.py:42425)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Install directory:         /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Asset directory:           /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/assets
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Locale directory:          /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/locale
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Userdata directory:        /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Config directory:          /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Cache directory:           /home/neba/.cache/TauonMusicBox
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Home directory:            /home/neba
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Music directory:           /home/neba/Music
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Downloads directory:       /home/neba/Downloads
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [musicbrainz] set user-agent to TauonMusicBox/9.1.0 python-musicbrainzngs/0.7.1 ( https://github.com/Taiko2k/Tauon ) (musicbrainz.py:326)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Database loaded in 0.037 seconds.
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [ t_phazor ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so (t_phazor.py:546)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [ t_phazor ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so (t_phazor.py:546)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [ t_phazor ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so (t_phazor.py:546)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [  t_main  ] Loaded Phazor path at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so (t_main.py:6140)

(tauonmb:1694): libayatana-appindicator-WARNING **: 22:29:15.750: libayatana-appindicator is deprecated. Please use libayatana-appindicator-glib in newly written code.
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [WARNING] [_py_warnings] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/events.py:718: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  class GLibEventLoopPolicy(asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy):
 (_py_warnings.py:230)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [WARNING] [_py_warnings] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/_ossighelper.py:266: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.get_event_loop_policy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  policy = asyncio.get_event_loop_policy()
 (_py_warnings.py:230)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [t_webserve] Start controller server
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ DEBUG ] [ t_phazor ] Starting PHAzOR backend… (t_phazor.py:807)
2026-03-08 22:29:15 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Using SDL version: 3004002
2026-03-08 22:29:17 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Load Bio Data
2026-03-08 22:29:17 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Applying theme: Rose
2026-03-08 22:29:17 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Load Bio Data
2026-03-08 22:29:17 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Load cached bio and image
2026-03-08 22:29:17 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Auto save playtime
2026-03-08 22:29:17 [ INFO  ] [  t_main  ] Save BMP to memory
2026-03-08 22:29:22 [ INFO  ] [ __init__ ] Exit PHAzOR

and the log file

[ INFO  ] Debug mode enabled - saving log to /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox/tauon.log
[ DEBUG ] Forcing X11 due to user prefs
[ DEBUG ] SDL available drivers: [b'opengl', b'opengles2', b'vulkan', b'gpu', b'software']
[ DEBUG ] PATH that will be used for ffmpeg/ffprobe and similar: /home/neba/.bin:/home/neba/.local/bin:/home/neba/.config/emacs/bin:/home/neba/Applications:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/default/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl
[ INFO  ] SDL window system: x11
[WARNING] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import Tekore, Spotify support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import tidalapi, Tidal support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import pypresence, Discord Rich Presence will be disabled.
[ DEBUG ] pychromecast import error: No module named 'pychromecast'
[WARNING] Unable to import Chrome(pychromecast), chromecast support will be disabled.
[WARNING] PyOpenGL not found, Milkdrop visualizer will be disabled
[ INFO  ] Window size: [683, 736]; Logical size: [683, 736]
[ DEBUG ] Found TLS cert file at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/certifi/cacert.pem
[ INFO  ] Platform: linux
[ INFO  ] Running from installed location
[ DEBUG ] Found XDG-Downloads: /home/neba/Downloads in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[ DEBUG ] Found XDG-Music:     /home/neba/Music     in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[ INFO  ] Install directory:         /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon
[ INFO  ] Asset directory:           /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/assets
[ INFO  ] Locale directory:          /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/locale
[ INFO  ] Userdata directory:        /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Config directory:          /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Cache directory:           /home/neba/.cache/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Home directory:            /home/neba
[ INFO  ] Music directory:           /home/neba/Music
[ INFO  ] Downloads directory:       /home/neba/Downloads
[ DEBUG ] set user-agent to TauonMusicBox/9.1.0 python-musicbrainzngs/0.7.1 ( https://github.com/Taiko2k/Tauon )
[ INFO  ] Database loaded in 0.004 seconds.
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Loaded Phazor path at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ INFO  ] Start controller server
[ DEBUG ] Starting PHAzOR backend…
[ INFO  ] Using SDL version: 3004002
[WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/events.py:718: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  class GLibEventLoopPolicy(asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy):

[WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/_ossighelper.py:266: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.get_event_loop_policy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  policy = asyncio.get_event_loop_policy()

[ INFO  ] Load Bio Data
[ INFO  ] Applying theme: Rose
[ INFO  ] Load Bio Data
[ INFO  ] Load cached bio and image
[ INFO  ] Save BMP to memory
[ INFO  ] Auto save playtime
[ INFO  ] Exit PHAzOR
[ INFO  ] Shutting down. Reason: SIGINT received
[ INFO  ] Writing database to disk... 
[ INFO  ] Done writing database
[ INFO  ] Clearing tmp cache
[ INFO  ] Bye!
[ INFO  ] Debug mode enabled - saving log to /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox/tauon.log
[ DEBUG ] SDL available drivers: [b'opengl', b'opengles2', b'vulkan', b'gpu', b'software']
[ DEBUG ] PATH that will be used for ffmpeg/ffprobe and similar: /home/neba/.bin:/home/neba/.local/bin:/home/neba/.config/emacs/bin:/home/neba/Applications:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/default/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl
[ INFO  ] SDL window system: wayland
[WARNING] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import Tekore, Spotify support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import tidalapi, Tidal support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import pypresence, Discord Rich Presence will be disabled.
[ DEBUG ] pychromecast import error: No module named 'pychromecast'
[WARNING] Unable to import Chrome(pychromecast), chromecast support will be disabled.
[WARNING] PyOpenGL not found, Milkdrop visualizer will be disabled
[ INFO  ] Window size: [1366, 736]; Logical size: [1366, 736]
[ DEBUG ] Found TLS cert file at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/certifi/cacert.pem
[ INFO  ] Platform: linux
[ INFO  ] Running from installed location
[ DEBUG ] Found XDG-Downloads: /home/neba/Downloads in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[ DEBUG ] Found XDG-Music:     /home/neba/Music     in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[ INFO  ] Install directory:         /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon
[ INFO  ] Asset directory:           /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/assets
[ INFO  ] Locale directory:          /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/locale
[ INFO  ] Userdata directory:        /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Config directory:          /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Cache directory:           /home/neba/.cache/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Home directory:            /home/neba
[ INFO  ] Music directory:           /home/neba/Music
[ INFO  ] Downloads directory:       /home/neba/Downloads
[ DEBUG ] set user-agent to TauonMusicBox/9.1.0 python-musicbrainzngs/0.7.1 ( https://github.com/Taiko2k/Tauon )
[ INFO  ] Database loaded in 0.007 seconds.
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Loaded Phazor path at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ INFO  ] Start controller server
[ DEBUG ] Starting PHAzOR backend…
[ INFO  ] Using SDL version: 3004002
[WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/events.py:718: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  class GLibEventLoopPolicy(asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy):

[WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/_ossighelper.py:266: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.get_event_loop_policy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  policy = asyncio.get_event_loop_policy()

[ INFO  ] Load Bio Data
[ INFO  ] Applying theme: Rose
[ INFO  ] Load Bio Data
[ INFO  ] Load cached bio and image
[ INFO  ] Save BMP to memory
[ INFO  ] Auto save playtime
[ INFO  ] Exit PHAzOR
[ INFO  ] Shutting down. Reason: SIGINT received
[ INFO  ] Writing database to disk... 
[ INFO  ] Done writing database
[ INFO  ] Clearing tmp cache
[ INFO  ] Bye!
[ INFO  ] Debug mode enabled - saving log to /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox/tauon.log
[ DEBUG ] SDL available drivers: [b'opengl', b'opengles2', b'vulkan', b'gpu', b'software']
[ DEBUG ] PATH that will be used for ffmpeg/ffprobe and similar: /home/neba/.bin:/home/neba/.local/bin:/home/neba/.config/emacs/bin:/home/neba/Applications:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/default/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl
[ INFO  ] SDL window system: wayland
[WARNING] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import Tekore, Spotify support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import tidalapi, Tidal support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import jxlpy, JPEG XL support will be disabled.
[WARNING] Unable to import pypresence, Discord Rich Presence will be disabled.
[ DEBUG ] pychromecast import error: No module named 'pychromecast'
[WARNING] Unable to import Chrome(pychromecast), chromecast support will be disabled.
[WARNING] PyOpenGL not found, Milkdrop visualizer will be disabled
[ INFO  ] Window size: [1366, 736]; Logical size: [1366, 736]
[ DEBUG ] Found TLS cert file at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/certifi/cacert.pem
[ INFO  ] Platform: linux
[ INFO  ] Running from installed location
[ DEBUG ] Found XDG-Downloads: /home/neba/Downloads in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[ DEBUG ] Found XDG-Music:     /home/neba/Music     in /home/neba/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[ INFO  ] Install directory:         /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon
[ INFO  ] Asset directory:           /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/assets
[ INFO  ] Locale directory:          /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/locale
[ INFO  ] Userdata directory:        /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Config directory:          /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Cache directory:           /home/neba/.cache/TauonMusicBox
[ INFO  ] Home directory:            /home/neba
[ INFO  ] Music directory:           /home/neba/Music
[ INFO  ] Downloads directory:       /home/neba/Downloads
[ DEBUG ] set user-agent to TauonMusicBox/9.1.0 python-musicbrainzngs/0.7.1 ( https://github.com/Taiko2k/Tauon )
[ INFO  ] Database loaded in 0.037 seconds.
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Lib phazor-pw found in /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[ DEBUG ] Loaded Phazor path at: /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/phazor-pw.cpython-314-x86_64-linux-gnu.so
[WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/events.py:718: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  class GLibEventLoopPolicy(asyncio.AbstractEventLoopPolicy):

[WARNING] /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/gi/_ossighelper.py:266: DeprecationWarning: 'asyncio.get_event_loop_policy' is deprecated and slated for removal in Python 3.16
  policy = asyncio.get_event_loop_policy()

[ INFO  ] Start controller server
[ DEBUG ] Starting PHAzOR backend…
[ INFO  ] Using SDL version: 3004002
[ INFO  ] Load Bio Data
[ INFO  ] Applying theme: Rose
[ INFO  ] Load Bio Data
[ INFO  ] Load cached bio and image
[ INFO  ] Auto save playtime
[ INFO  ] Save BMP to memory
[ INFO  ] Exit PHAzOR
[ INFO  ] Shutting down. Reason: SIGINT received
[ INFO  ] Writing database to disk... 
[ INFO  ] Done writing database
[ INFO  ] Clearing tmp cache
[ INFO  ] Bye!

is it because it was trying to find python libraries that are missing?

[C0rn3j]

is it because it was trying to find python libraries that are missing?

Nope, something else is wrong.

You can try adding logging.info("here") type calls across the /usr/lib/python3.14/site-packages/tauon/__main__.py file and see which exact line triggers the 1-2 minute delay.

It's probably going to be the import sdl3 call or the SDL init/window creation calls.

and the log file

The log file should be a 1:1 copy of the terminal log, so no need to show both

[ds47x]

i am sorry for the late i was extremely busy and as you have told me i added the debug logs and what i found is

2026-03-12 21:25:06 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Tauon v9.1.1
2026-03-12 21:25:06 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Copyright 2015-2025 Taiko2k captain.gxj@gmail.com

2026-03-12 21:25:06 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Started with arguments: ['/usr/bin/tauonmb']
2026-03-12 21:25:06 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Debug mode enabled - saving log to /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox/tauon.log
2026-03-12 21:25:06 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] Forcing X11 due to user prefs (__main__.py:254)
DEBUG: Before setting SDL env vars
DEBUG: After setting SDL env vars, before import sdl3
DEBUG: After import sdl3
DEBUG: After first SetHint
2026-03-12 21:26:01 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] SDL available drivers: [b'opengl', b'opengles2', b'vulkan', b'gpu', b'software'] (__main__.py:452)
2026-03-12 21:26:01 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] PATH that will be used for ffmpeg/ffprobe and similar: /home/neba/.bin:/home/neba/.local/bin:/home/neba/.config/emacs/bin:/home/neba/Applications:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/default/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl (__main__.py:453)
2026-03-12 21:26:02 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] SDL window system: x11

there is a huge delay before importing sdl3

2026-03-12 21:25:06 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] Forcing X11 due to user prefs (__main__.py:254)
DEBUG: Before setting SDL env vars
DEBUG: After setting SDL env vars, before import sdl3
//the lag or like the most time taken is here
DEBUG: After import sdl3

here is where i putted the log in the file

the huge delay as you said before was the import sdl3 issue

sdl_library_path = next((p for p in candidates if p and os.path.exists(p)), None)
if sdl_library_path:
        os.environ["SDL_BINARY_PATH"] = os.path.dirname(sdl_library_path)
print("DEBUG: Before setting SDL env vars")
os.environ["SDL_FIND_BINARIES"] = "1"
if pyinstaller_mode:
        os.environ["SDL_FIND_BINARIES"]            = "0" # Disable binary searching,                   "1"        by default.

os.environ["SDL_DOC_GENERATOR"]            = "0" # Disable doc generation                       "1"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_DISABLE_METADATA"]         = "1" # Disable metadata method,                     "0"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_CHECK_VERSION"]            = "0" # Disable version checking,                    "1"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_CHECK_BINARY_VERSION"]     = "0" # Disable binary version checking,             "1"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_IGNORE_MISSING_FUNCTIONS"] = "1" # Disable missing function warnings,           "0"        by default.
print("DEBUG: After setting SDL env vars, before import sdl3")
import sdl3  # noqa: E402
print("DEBUG: After import sdl3")
# Test the first SetHint to catch if we loaded SDL3 correctly
sethint_result = sdl3.SDL_SetHint(sdl3.SDL_HINT_VIDEO_ALLOW_SCREENSAVER, b"1")
print("DEBUG: After first SetHint")
if sethint_result is None:

 

[C0rn3j]

Do you get the same delay if you just exec python and run import sdl3 there?

[ds47x]

i dont think so when ran time python3 -c "import sdl3"

it finished in like 2 seconds

time python3 -c "import sdl3"
Warning: Failed to check for the latest version of PySDL3, please check manually.
________________________________________________________
Executed in    2.24 secs      fish           external
   usr time  820.09 millis  769.00 micros  819.33 millis
   sys time  138.08 millis  287.00 micros  137.79 millis

[C0rn3j]

Maybe one of the various SDL environment variables triggers whatever causes the delay?

You can try something like this and if it reproduces the issue, trim it down until you find the culprit

import os

sdl_dll_name = ctypes.util.find_library("SDL3")
if sdl_dll_name:
	candidates = [
		"./" + sdl_dll_name,
		os.path.join("/app/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/lib64", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/lib64", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/local/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/local/lib64", sdl_dll_name),
	]
else:
	candidates = []

sdl_library_path = next((p for p in candidates if p and os.path.exists(p)), None)
if sdl_library_path:
        os.environ["SDL_BINARY_PATH"] = os.path.dirname(sdl_library_path)
os.environ["SDL_FIND_BINARIES"] = "1"
os.environ["SDL_DOC_GENERATOR"]            = "0"
os.environ["SDL_DISABLE_METADATA"]         = "1"
os.environ["SDL_CHECK_VERSION"]            = "0"
os.environ["SDL_CHECK_BINARY_VERSION"]     = "0"
os.environ["SDL_IGNORE_MISSING_FUNCTIONS"] = "1"
import sdl3

[ds47x]

still the same it took like 5 sec

python3 -c "
     import os, ctypes.util, time
     print('--- Starting SDL3 Initialization Timing ---')
     t0 = time.perf_counter()
     sdl_dll_name = ctypes.util.find_library('SDL3')
     t1 = time.perf_counter(); print(f'[TIMING] find_library: {t1-t0:.6f}s')
     candidates = ['./' + sdl_dll_name] if sdl_dll_name else []
     sdl_library_path = next((p for p in candidates if p and os.path.exists(p)), None)
     t2 = time.perf_counter(); print(f'[TIMING] path check: {t2-t1:.6f}s')
     os.environ['SDL_FIND_BINARIES'] = '1'
     t3 = time.perf_counter(); print(f'[TIMING] env vars: {t3-t2:.6f}s')
     import sdl3
     t4 = time.perf_counter(); print(f'[TIMING] import sdl3: {t4-t3:.6f}s')
     print(f'[TIMING] TOTAL: {t4-t0:.6f}s')
     "
--- Starting SDL3 Initialization Timing ---
[TIMING] find_library: 0.009739s
[TIMING] path check: 0.000061s
[TIMING] env vars: 0.000021s
[TIMING] import sdl3: 5.034986s
[TIMING] TOTAL: 5.044806s

maybe its not using the already available sdl3 and its trying to import it, am not sure whats going on

it launch time decreased from 2min to 1min tho

2026-03-13 16:28:25 [ INFO  ] [ __main__ ] Debug mode enabled - saving log to /home/neba/.local/share/TauonMusicBox/tauon.log
2026-03-13 16:28:25 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] Forcing X11 due to user prefs (__main__.py:254)
DEBUG: Before setting SDL env vars
DEBUG: After setting SDL env vars, before import sdl3
DEBUG: After import sdl3
DEBUG: After first SetHint
2026-03-13 16:29:21 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] SDL available drivers: [b'opengl', b'opengles2', b'vulkan', b'gpu', b'software'] (__main__.py:452)
2026-03-13 16:29:21 [ DEBUG ] [ __main__ ] PATH that will be used for ffmpeg/ffprobe and similar: /home/neba/.bin:/home/neba/.local/bin:/home/neba/.config/emacs/bin:/home/neba/Applications:/var/lib/flatpak/exports/bin/:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/lib/jvm/default/bin:/usr/bin/site_perl:/usr/bin/vendor_perl:/usr/bin/core_perl (__main__.py:453)

[C0rn3j]

Okay... does this reproduce? Took __main__ and severely reduced it.

Starting to suspect the X11 mode, though that'd be weird, but it is one of the things that wasn't present before.

import ctypes
import ctypes.util
import logging
import os
import sys
from pathlib import Path

from gi.repository import GLib

install_directory = Path(__file__).resolve().parent
sys.path.insert(0, str(install_directory.parent))

pyinstaller_mode = bool(
	hasattr(sys, "_MEIPASS") or getattr(sys, "frozen", False) or install_directory.name.endswith("_internal")
)

logging.captureWarnings(capture=True)
if not sys.warnoptions:
	import warnings

	warnings.simplefilter("default")
	os.environ["PYTHONWARNINGS"] = "default"  # Also affect subprocesses

if sys.platform != "win32":
	import fcntl

n_version = "9.1.1"
t_version = "v" + n_version
t_title = "Tauon"
t_id = "tauonmb"
t_agent = "TauonMusicBox/" + n_version

logging.info(f"{t_title} {t_version}")
logging.info("Copyright 2015-2025 Taiko2k captain.gxj@gmail.com\n")

logging.info(f"Started with arguments: {sys.argv}")


def transfer_args_and_exit() -> None:
	"""Early arg processing"""
	import urllib.request

	base = "http://localhost:7813/"

	if len(sys.argv) <= 1:
		url = base + "raise/"
		urllib.request.urlopen(url)

	for item in sys.argv:
		if (
			not item.endswith(".py")
			and not item.startswith("-")
			and not item.endswith("exe")
			and (item.startswith("file://") or Path(item).exists())
		):
			import base64

			url = base + "open/" + base64.urlsafe_b64encode(item.encode()).decode()
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--play-pause":
			url = base + "playpause/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--play":
			url = base + "play/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--pause":
			url = base + "pause/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--stop":
			url = base + "stop/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--next":
			url = base + "next/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--previous":
			url = base + "previous/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--shuffle":
			url = base + "shuffle/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)
		if item == "--repeat":
			url = base + "repeat/"
			urllib.request.urlopen(url)

	sys.exit()


if "--no-start" in sys.argv:
	transfer_args_and_exit()

install_mode = bool(
	str(install_directory).startswith(("/opt/", "/usr/", "/app/", "/snap/", "/nix/store/"))
	or sys.platform in ("darwin", "win32")
)

if str(install_directory).startswith("/usr/") and Path("/usr/share/TauonMusicBox").is_dir():
	install_directory = Path("/usr/share/TauonMusicBox")

if str(install_directory).startswith("/app/"):
	t_id = "com.github.taiko2k.tauonmb"


if (install_directory / "portable").is_file():
	install_mode = False

if install_mode:
	user_directory = Path(GLib.get_user_data_dir()) / "TauonMusicBox"
elif install_directory.parent.name == "src":
	user_directory = install_directory.parent.parent / "user-data"
else:
	user_directory = install_directory / "user-data"

debug = bool((user_directory / "debug").is_file())

logging.getLogger().handlers[0].setLevel(logging.DEBUG if debug else logging.INFO)

asset_directory = install_directory / "assets"

if not user_directory.is_dir():
	user_directory.mkdir(parents=True)

fp = None
dev_mode = (install_directory / ".dev").is_file()
if dev_mode:
	logging.warning("Dev mode, ignoring single instancing")
elif sys.platform != "win32":
	pid_file = user_directory / "program.pid"
	fp = pid_file.open("w")
	try:
		fcntl.lockf(fp, fcntl.LOCK_EX | fcntl.LOCK_NB)
	except OSError:
		logging.exception("Another Tauon instance is already running")
		# TODO(Martin): Silent crash
		transfer_args_and_exit()
else:
	if sys.platform == "win32":
		pid_file = user_directory / "program.pid"
		try:
			if pid_file.is_file():
				pid_file.unlink()
			fp = pid_file.open("w")
		except OSError:
			logging.exception("Another Tauon instance is already running")
			# TODO(Martin): Silent crash
			transfer_args_and_exit()
	if pyinstaller_mode:
		os.environ["FONTCONFIG_PATH"] = str(install_directory / "etc" / "fonts")  # "C:\\msys64\\mingw64\\etc\\fonts"

phone = False
d = os.environ.get("XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP")
if d in ["GNOME:Phosh"]:
	os.environ["SDL_VIDEODRIVER"] = "wayland"
	phone = True

os.environ["SDL_VIDEO_WAYLAND_ALLOW_LIBDECOR"] = "0"  # emergency crash workaround

if pyinstaller_mode:  # and sys.platform == 'darwin':
	os.environ["SDL_BINARY_PATH"] = str(install_directory)

fs_mode = False
if os.environ.get("GAMESCOPE_WAYLAND_DISPLAY") is not None:
	fs_mode = True
	logging.info("Running in GAMESCOPE MODE")

if os.environ.get("XDG_SESSION_TYPE") and os.environ.get("XDG_SESSION_TYPE") == "wayland":
	# Force Wayland, as SDL3 otherwise requires the compositor to support specific protocols
	# and defaults to X11 - https://github.com/libsdl-org/SDL/pull/9383
	# We should be able to remove this in 2026+
	os.environ["SDL_VIDEODRIVER"] = "wayland"
if Path(user_directory / "x11").exists():
	logging.debug("Forcing X11 due to user prefs")
	os.environ["SDL_VIDEODRIVER"] = "x11"

sdl_dll_name = ctypes.util.find_library("SDL3")
if sdl_dll_name:
	candidates = [
		"./" + sdl_dll_name,
		os.path.join("/app/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/lib64", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/lib64", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/local/lib", sdl_dll_name),
		os.path.join("/usr/local/lib64", sdl_dll_name),
	]
else:
	candidates = []
sdl_library_path = next((p for p in candidates if p and os.path.exists(p)), None)
if sdl_library_path:
	os.environ["SDL_BINARY_PATH"] = os.path.dirname(sdl_library_path)

os.environ["SDL_FIND_BINARIES"] = "1"
if pyinstaller_mode:
	os.environ["SDL_FIND_BINARIES"]            = "0" # Disable binary searching,                   "1"        by default.

os.environ["SDL_DOC_GENERATOR"]            = "0" # Disable doc generation                       "1"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_DISABLE_METADATA"]         = "1" # Disable metadata method,                     "0"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_CHECK_VERSION"]            = "0" # Disable version checking,                    "1"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_CHECK_BINARY_VERSION"]     = "0" # Disable binary version checking,             "1"        by default.
os.environ["SDL_IGNORE_MISSING_FUNCTIONS"] = "1" # Disable missing function warnings,           "0"        by default.

import sdl3  # noqa: E402

[ds47x]

Starting to suspect the X11 mode, though that'd be weird, but it is one of the things that wasn't present before.

i made it x11 bc i thought it was wayland bringing the issue but its same on both of them

i tested the code you have given me and you are right it is the import sdl3 but how is something like preventing it from executing on time? because on the previous one it ran fine but in the new code you gave me it didnt??
this only happens at first run(after reboot or like unti its wiped off memory) and then it works fine

python3 sdl_timing.py
[⏱ TIMING] Script start
Tauon v9.1.1
Copyright 2015-2025 Taiko2k captain.gxj@gmail.com

Started with arguments: ['sdl_timing.py']
[⏱ TIMING] Initial imports & setup                       : 0.000410s
[⏱ TIMING] --no-start check & transfer_args              : 0.000003s
[⏱ TIMING] Install mode & user_directory setup           : 0.000109s
[⏱ TIMING] Single-instance lock (pid file)               : 0.000109s
[⏱ TIMING] Desktop/Session env var setup                 : 0.000054s
[⏱ TIMING]   └─ ctypes.util.find_library('SDL3') → 'libSDL3.so.0' : 0.007415s
[⏱ TIMING]  └─ Path existence checks (8 candidates) : 0.000041s
[⏱ TIMING]  └─ Found SDL3 at: /usr/lib/libSDL3.so.0
[⏱ TIMING] SDL3 path resolution complete                 : 0.007685s
[⏱ TIMING] Setting SDL environment variables             : 0.000029s
[⏱ TIMING] >>> import sdl3 : 60.476905s <<<---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
[⏱ TIMING] >>> TOTAL STARTUP TIME <<<                    : 60.477000s

but why when doing it normally python3 -c "import sld3" works fine??

time python3 -c "import sdl3"
Warning: Failed to check for the latest version of PySDL3, please check manually.
________________________________________________________
Executed in    2.24 secs      fish           external
   usr time  820.09 millis  769.00 micros  819.33 millis
   sys time  138.08 millis  287.00 micros  137.79 millis

[C0rn3j]

but why when doing it normally python3 -c "import sld3" works fine??

It's one of the variables doing it most likely, try removing bits of code until it's gone, so we have a minimal repro case (and we'll probably have to go to upstream pysdl with that)