Syclone Validation Failed in Logic Pro (ARM64 m1)

[ghwiegand]

Hey there,

The standalone version works fine. But sadly, the ".component" file gets a Failed Validation at the Logic Pro startup.

I'm on a m1 MacBook Pro (so arm64), Firmware Version: 13.3.1 (a) and Logic Pro version 10.7.8.

Any workaround here?

[ghwiegand]

Hey there,

The standalone version works fine. But sadly, the ".component" file gets a Failed Validation at the Logic Pro startup.

I'm on a m1 MacBook Pro (so arm64), Firmware Version: 13.3.1 (a) and Logic Pro version 10.7.8.

Any workaround here?

For the Record: I tried the Scyclone-v.0.0.3-osx-arm64.dmg Release.

[faressc]

Hi,

thank you for reporting the error! I have just updated the Scyclone-v.0.0.3-osx-arm64.dmg and -x64.dmg release and hopefully the validation at Logic Pro startup works now. It would be great, if you report back whether the AU work now with Logic...

For now the plugin only runs in stereo. Mono compatibility should come with the next major update. So keep your Scyclone tracks stereo for now :)

Cheers

[ghwiegand]

Thanks! I try and will report back to you:)

[ghwiegand]

New version from 2 Hours ago. Still a failed Validation.

[faressc]

Ok, thanks for trying out. Could you run auval -v aufx SCYC TORA in the terminal and send me the output. This would help me to find the problem.

[ghwiegand]

It says Validation succeeded. But opening Logic, the plugin-manager still is unable to use the Plugin and says Validation Failed.

Here is the Output from the auval:

➜  ~ auval -v aufx SCYC TORA

    AU Validation Tool
    Version: 1.10.0 
    Copyright 2003-2019, Apple Inc. All Rights Reserved.
    Specify -h (-help) for command options

--------------------------------------------------
VALIDATING AUDIO UNIT: 'aufx' - 'SCYC' - 'TORA'
--------------------------------------------------
Manufacturer String: Torsion Audio
AudioUnit Name: Scyclone
Component Version: 0.0.3 (0x3)

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
TESTING OPEN TIMES:
COLD:
Time to open AudioUnit:         567.013 ms
WARM:
Time to open AudioUnit:         20.504  ms
This AudioUnit is a version 2 implementation.
FIRST TIME:
Time for initialization:        16.762 ms

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING DEFAULT SCOPE FORMATS:
Input Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:1
    Bus Name: Input
    Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
    Has Channel Layouts: 0x650002 0x660002 0x670002 0x6A0002 
    Default Layout:
	Tag=0x650002, Num Chan Descs=0

Output Scope Bus Configuration:
 Default Bus Count:1
    Bus Name: Output
    Default Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
    Has Channel Layouts: 0x650002 0x660002 0x670002 0x6A0002 
    Default Layout:
	Tag=0x650002, Num Chan Descs=0

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING REQUIRED PROPERTIES:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING RECOMMENDED PROPERTIES:
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Latency
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Tail Time
    PASS
  VERIFYING PROPERTY: Bypass Effect
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING OPTIONAL PROPERTIES:

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
VERIFYING SPECIAL PROPERTIES:

VERIFYING CUSTOM UI
Cocoa Views Available: 1
  JUCE_AUCocoaViewClass_c3b446cd46a49788
    PASS

HAS FACTORY PRESETS
    ID:   0    Name: Untitled

VERIFYING CLASS INFO
    PASS

TESTING HOST CALLBACKS
    PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
PUBLISHED PARAMETER INFO:

# # # 28 Global Scope Parameters:
Parameter ID:35450317
Name: Comp Ratio
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 1.0, Default = 4.0, Maximum = 10.0
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:176180678
Name: Input Gain
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = - 12.0, Default =  0.0, Maximum = + 12.0
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:316763979
Name: Output Gain
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = - 12.0, Default =  0.0, Maximum = + 12.0
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:336971933
Name: Grain Pitch Network 1
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = -12.0, Default = 0.0, Maximum = 12.0
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:336971934
Name: Grain Pitch Network 2
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = -12.0, Default = 0.0, Maximum = 12.0
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:371848121
Name: Grain Mix Network 1
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 0, Default = 25, Maximum = 100
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:371848122
Name: Grain Mix Network 2
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 0, Default = 25, Maximum = 100
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:452773614
Name: Fade
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 0 / 100, Default = 100 / 0, Maximum = 100 / 0
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:473991741
Name: Transient Shaper Network 1
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = -1.000, Default = 0.300, Maximum = 1.000
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:473991742
Name: Transient Shaper Network 2
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = -1.000, Default = 0.700, Maximum = 1.000
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:899170338
Name: Grain Interval Network 1
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 0.0 ms, Default = 0.5 ms, Maximum = 2.0 ms
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:899170339
Name: Grain Interval Network 2
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 0.0 ms, Default = 0.5 ms, Maximum = 2.0 ms
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:955542407
Name: Comp Makeup
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = Auto, Default = Auto, Maximum = 12.0 dB
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:983683373
Name: Comp Threshold
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = -60.0, Default = -20.0, Maximum = 0.0
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1003864998
Name: Select Network 1
Parameter Type: Boolean
Values: Minimum = Off, Default = Off, Maximum = On
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1003864999
Name: Select Network 2
Parameter Type: Boolean
Values: Minimum = Off, Default = Off, Maximum = On
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1302741645
Name: Dynamic
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 0, Default = 100, Maximum = 100
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1478966003
Name: On Off Network 1
Parameter Type: Boolean
Values: Minimum = Off, Default = On, Maximum = On
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1478966004
Name: On Off Network 2
Parameter Type: Boolean
Values: Minimum = Off, Default = Off, Maximum = On
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1741142186
Name: Filter Network 1
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = -100, Default = 70, Maximum = 100
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1741142187
Name: Filter Network 2
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = -100, Default = 30, Maximum = 100
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1933765620
Name: Transient Attack Time Network 1
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 50 ms, Default = 500 ms, Maximum = 2.0 sec
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1933765621
Name: Transient Attack Time Network 2
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 50 ms, Default = 500 ms, Maximum = 2.0 sec
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:1954275242
Name: Global Mix
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 0, Default = 70, Maximum = 100
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:2068249391
Name: Grain On Off Network 1
Parameter Type: Boolean
Values: Minimum = Off, Default = Off, Maximum = On
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:2068249392
Name: Grain On Off Network 2
Parameter Type: Boolean
Values: Minimum = Off, Default = Off, Maximum = On
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:2118665054
Name: Grain Size Network 1
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 10.0 ms, Default = 60.0 ms, Maximum = 100 ms
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Parameter ID:2118665055
Name: Grain Size Network 2
Parameter Type: Generic
Values: Minimum = 10.0 ms, Default = 60.0 ms, Maximum = 100 ms
Flags: Values Have Strings, High Resolution, Can Ramp, Readable, Writable 
  -parameter PASS

Testing that parameters retain value across reset and initialization
  PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
FORMAT TESTS:

Reported Channel Capabilities (explicit):
      [2, 2]  

Input/Output Channel Handling:
1-1   1-2   1-4   1-5   1-6   1-7   1-8   2-2   2-4   2-5   2-6   2-7   2-8   4-4   4-5   5-5   6-6   7-7   8-8
                                          X                                                                       

# # AudioChannelLayouts (4), Input Scope:
ChannelLayout is Writable: T
The Unit publishes the following Channel Layouts:
  0x650002, 0x660002, 0x670002, 0x6A0002, 

Is Audio Channel Layout Available:
Mono    Stereo  Binau.  AU_4    Ambi.   AU_5    AU_5_0  AU_6    AU_6_0  AU_7_0  AU_7_0F AU_8    AU_5_1  AU_6_1  AU_7_1  AU_7_1F 
        X       X                                                                                                               

Current Format:AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Current Format Tag = 0x650002, New Format Tag = 0x650002, Successsful

Current Format:AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Current Format Tag = 0x650002, New Format Tag = 0x6A0002, Successsful

# # AudioChannelLayouts (4), Output Scope:
ChannelLayout is Writable: T
The Unit publishes the following Channel Layouts:
  0x650002, 0x660002, 0x670002, 0x6A0002, 

Is Audio Channel Layout Available:
Mono    Stereo  Binau.  AU_4    Ambi.   AU_5    AU_5_0  AU_6    AU_6_0  AU_7_0  AU_7_0F AU_8    AU_5_1  AU_6_1  AU_7_1  AU_7_1F 
        X       X                                                                                                               

Current Format:AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Current Format Tag = 0x650002, New Format Tag = 0x650002, Successsful

Current Format:AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Current Format Tag = 0x650002, New Format Tag = 0x6A0002, Successsful

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
RENDER TESTS:

Input Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Output Format: AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
Render Test at 512 frames
Slicing Render Test at 64 frames
  PASS


Render Test at 64 frames, sample rate: 22050 Hz
Render Test at 137 frames, sample rate: 96000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 48000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 192000 Hz
Render Test at 4096 frames, sample rate: 11025 Hz
Render Test at 512 frames, sample rate: 44100 Hz
  PASS

Checking connection semantics:
Connection format:
AudioStreamBasicDescription:  2 ch,  44100 Hz, Float32, deinterleaved
  PASS

Bad Max Frames - Render should fail
  PASS

Checking parameter setting
Using AudioUnitSetParameter
Using AudioUnitScheduleParameter
  PASS

Checking ramped parameter scheduling
  PASS

Test MIDI
  PASS

* * PASS
--------------------------------------------------
AU VALIDATION SUCCEEDED.
--------------------------------------------------
➜  ~ 

[ghwiegand]

Also a reboot didn't help.
Also strange, in Logic there is only the Mono variant of the au plugin. You said, that only stereo works, probably missing from the AU-Component?

[faressc]

Mmh... As you can also see from the auval log our plugin should only support stereo. This is what I have changed when uploading the new release. Since auval takes a look at the library folder, the new version seems to be in the right place. Maybe you need to clear the plugins cache in Logic, since Logic still seems to have the old version with mono compatibility in cache. Could you try this?

[ghwiegand]

Done. I've deleted the '...audiounit.cache' file from ‘Library/Caches...‘.

I restarted Logic. No warnings from the start. Validation Success. The plugin is there. But only in Mono.

Try to use the Mono but as expected, the Plugin did not load.

(I re-downloaded the plugin to make shure, it is the newest version from Github.)

[faressc]

Looks like the track you placed the plug-in is a mono track. The track in Logic itself should be stereo so that you can put a stereo effect on it. If your track is mono, only mono plugins are supported. I believe you can change this be clicking on the circle so it becomes two circle like the second track in the last image you sent.

[ghwiegand]

True, my bad.
But sadly still not loading:

(Dual Mono, as expected, also not working.)

As a side note: The standalone app is working. So it has to be in the Packaging/Au-Format.

[faressc]

Ok. Thank you for your help so far! The AU has been tested in other DAWs and worked there. Also the new AU build worked on an Intel machine with Logic. I'll try to get hands on an M1 with Logic and I'll report back.
Until then you could try to build the plug-in yourself. It would be great if you could then report back. Maybe even start the AU in debug mode with Logic...

[faressc]

Hey I have just tested the AU under M1 on Logic Pro. The plugin worked fine if you start Logic Pro normally. But if you start Logic in Rosetta mode they will not show up. Maybe you start Logic Pro in Rosetta mode and that's why the plugin does not work?