Hard Crash and reboot on rumble during gameplay

[x1000knives]

Version of xpadneo

v0.11-pre-7-gd67479f

Controller Model

• Xbox One S controller
• Xbox Elite 2 controller
• Xbox Series X|S controller
• Other:

Connection mode

• Bluetooth connection
• USB cable (not yet supported by xpadneo)
• Xbox Dongle connection (not yet supported by xpadneo)

Installed Software

• Anti-Micro (may affect button mappings)
• OpenRGB (may mess up mappings and rumble stability)
• Steam Input (enabled by default via Steam Desktop client)
• Steam Link (usually via Raspberry Pi or other micro computers)
• devices with QMK firmware (may affect udev rules, similar to OpenRGB)
• netstick (shares input devices via network similar to Steam Link)
• xboxdrv (user-space gamepad driver, not used for Bluetooth)
• xone (kernel-space gamepad driver for using USB or the Xbox Dongle)
• xow (obsolete user-space driver for using the wireless Xbox Dongle)

Protocol Information

Please help us identify at which layer the problem can be found if you want
to report mapping errors or if the controller fails to be detected:

• Steam Proton games are having issues
• Steam Linux-native games are having issues
  • I don't use Steam or did not try
• games running through Lutris, wine and/or Bottles are having issues
  • I don't use Lutris, Bottles, wine or did not try
• Linux-native games are having issues
  • I don't use native games or did not try
• Other software is having issues (describe software and issues below)
  Games are being run through Sunshine(Apollo) and Moonlight
• Running evtest is showing issues (describe the issues below)
  • Keep in mind that BTN_NORTH and BTN_WEST are intentionally swapped
• Running jstest is showing issues (describe the issues below)
  • I don't have this tool or don't know how to use it
• Running gamepad-tool is showing issues (post console output below)
  • I don't have this tool

Please describe how it is failing below in the next sections.

Severity / Impact

• I've read the docs and the bug reporting instructions
• I've applied the latest firmware update to the controller
• I've tried disabling or running without above mentioned software
• It does not work at all
• It used to work in a previous version
• It mostly works but sometimes it doesn't
• I found a work-around
• I probably didn't figure it all out but it's too early to give up
• I don't know how to ...
• It's too complicated
• Fantastic work but ...
• I can code and I want to help

Describe the Bug

During gameplay, the system will encounter a freeze and hard crash mid-controller rumble. The rumble persists during the freeze and stops once the system crashes and reboots on its own.

Steps to Reproduce

Play a game with rumble enabled. After a few minutes, the crash occurs. It doesn't happen on the very first rumble, but does happen about maybe 3-5 minutes into gameplay.

Expected Behavior

Rumble occurs with no system crashes.

Screenshots / GIFs / Videos

System Information

# uname -a
Linux mike-pi 6.12.75+rpt-rpi-v8 #1 SMP PREEMPT Debian 1:6.12.75-1+rpt1 (2026-03-11) aarch64 GNU/Linux

# dmesg -H | egrep -i 'bt|bluetooth|hci|l2cap|att|xbox|045e|hid|input|xpadneo' | tee xpadneo-dmesg.txt
[  +0.000000] Kernel command line: coherent_pool=1M 8250.nr_uarts=1 snd_bcm2835.enable_headphones=0 cgroup_disable=memory numa_policy=interleave nvme.max_host_mem_size_mb=0 snd_bcm2835.enable_headphones=1 snd_bcm2835.enable_hdmi=1 snd_bcm2835.enable_hdmi=0  numa=fake=1 system_heap.max_order=0 smsc95xx.macaddr=2C:CF:67:53:3E:F9 vc_mem.mem_base=0x3ec00000 vc_mem.mem_size=0x40000000  console=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=PARTUUID=d85d0070-02 rootfstype=ext4 fsck.repair=yes rootwait usbcore.autosuspend=-1 btusb.enable_autosuspend=0
[  +0.007312] raspberrypi-firmware soc:firmware: Attached to firmware from 2025-08-20T17:02:31, variant start
[  +0.091632] xhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0: xHCI Host Controller
[  +0.000039] xhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
[  +0.000967] xhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0: hcc params 0x002841eb hci version 0x100 quirks 0x0300240000000890
[  +0.000542] xhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0: xHCI Host Controller
[  +0.000028] xhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
[  +0.000031] xhci_hcd 0000:01:00.0: Host supports USB 3.0 SuperSpeed
[  +0.000028] usb usb1: Product: xHCI Host Controller
[  +0.000021] usb usb1: Manufacturer: Linux 6.12.75+rpt-rpi-v8 xhci-hcd
[  +0.000029] usb usb2: Product: xHCI Host Controller
[  +0.000021] usb usb2: Manufacturer: Linux 6.12.75+rpt-rpi-v8 xhci-hcd
[  +0.001581] sdhci: Secure Digital Host Controller Interface driver
[  +0.000047] sdhci: Copyright(c) Pierre Ossman
[  +0.000100] sdhci-pltfm: SDHCI platform and OF driver helper
[  +0.000189] hid: raw HID events driver (C) Jiri Kosina
[  +0.000083] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[  +0.000024] usbhid: USB HID core driver
[  +0.031962] mmc0: SDHCI controller on fe340000.mmc [fe340000.mmc] using ADMA
[  +0.059218] usb 1-1: new high-speed USB device number 2 using xhci_hcd
[Apr13 00:30] usb 1-1.3: new full-speed USB device number 3 using xhci_hcd
[  +0.062481] systemd[1]: systemd 257.9-1~deb13u1 running in system mode (+PAM +AUDIT +SELINUX +APPARMOR +IMA +IPE +SMACK +SECCOMP +GCRYPT -GNUTLS +OPENSSL +ACL +BLKID +CURL +ELFUTILS +FIDO2 +IDN2 -IDN +IPTC +KMOD +LIBCRYPTSETUP +LIBCRYPTSETUP_PLUGINS +LIBFDISK +PCRE2 +PWQUALITY +P11KIT +QRENCODE +TPM2 +BZIP2 +LZ4 +XZ +ZLIB +ZSTD +BPF_FRAMEWORK +BTF -XKBCOMMON -UTMP +SYSVINIT +LIBARCHIVE)
[  +0.000095] input: vc4-hdmi-0 as /devices/platform/soc/fef00700.hdmi/rc/rc0/input0
[  +0.002682] Bluetooth: Core ver 2.22
[  +0.000055] NET: Registered PF_BLUETOOTH protocol family
[  +0.000004] Bluetooth: HCI device and connection manager initialized
[  +0.000014] Bluetooth: HCI socket layer initialized
[  +0.000006] Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[  +0.000009] Bluetooth: SCO socket layer initialized
[  +0.000080] input: vc4-hdmi-0 HDMI Jack as /devices/platform/soc/fef00700.hdmi/sound/card1/input1
[  +0.000120] input: vc4-hdmi-1 as /devices/platform/soc/fef05700.hdmi/rc/rc1/input2
[  +0.020160] input: vc4-hdmi-1 HDMI Jack as /devices/platform/soc/fef05700.hdmi/sound/card2/input3
[  +0.023726] usbcore: registered new interface driver btusb
[  +0.004769] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: examining hci_ver=0a hci_rev=000b lmp_ver=0a lmp_subver=8761
[  +0.003030] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: rom_version status=0 version=1
[  +0.002970] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: btrtl_initialize: key id 0
[  +0.000018] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: loading rtl_bt/rtl8761bu_fw.bin
[  +0.013011] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: loading rtl_bt/rtl8761bu_config.bin
[  +0.007963] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: cfg_sz 6, total sz 30210
[  +0.370100] Bluetooth: hci0: RTL: fw version 0xdfc6d922
[  +1.884882] Bluetooth: BNEP (Ethernet Emulation) ver 1.3
[  +0.000019] Bluetooth: BNEP filters: protocol multicast
[  +0.000015] Bluetooth: BNEP socket layer initialized
[  +0.006580] Bluetooth: MGMT ver 1.23
[  +0.303645] Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[  +0.000028] Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[  +0.000018] Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.11
[  +2.578744] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input4
[  +0.001246] hid-generic 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v5.23 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  +0.008484] hid_xpadneo: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
[  +0.000725] loaded hid-xpadneo v0.11-pre-7-gd67479f
[  +0.067920] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: BLE firmware version 5.23
[  +0.000020] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: pretending XB1S Windows wireless mode (changed PID from 0x0B13 to 0x028E)
[  +0.000006] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: working around wrong SDL2 mappings (changed version from 0x00000523 to 0x00001130)
[  +0.000007] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor size: 283 bytes
[  +0.000005] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rx axis
[  +0.000003] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Ry axis
[  +0.000003] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Z axis
[  +0.000004] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rz axis
[  +0.000003] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up button mapping
[  +0.000709] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: gamepad detected
[  +0.000010] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: enabling compliance with Linux Gamepad Specification
[  +0.000118] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input5
[  +0.000797] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v11.30 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  +0.000127] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Consumer Control as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input6
[  +0.000122] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control added
[  +0.000066] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Keyboard as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input7
[  +0.000371] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard added
[  +0.000084] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Mouse as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input8
[  +0.000325] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse added
[  +0.000019] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  +0.000008] xpadneo rumble_welcome start
[  +0.000004] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing weak motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  +0.330057] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing strong motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  +0.129793] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing trigger motors: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  +0.330117] xpadneo rumble_welcome took 992ms
[  +0.000023] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: Xbox Wireless Controller [44:16:22:d0:61:72] connected
[  +0.050598] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original version (changed version from 0x00001130 to 0x00000523)
[  +0.000018] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original product (changed PID from 0x028E to 0x0B13)
[  +0.000009] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: removing controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  +0.000005] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: battery removed
[  +0.054118] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse removed
[  +0.055990] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard removed
[  +0.024020] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control removed
[  +0.064536] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: BLE firmware version 5.23
[  +0.000014] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: pretending XB1S Windows wireless mode (changed PID from 0x0B13 to 0x028E)
[  +0.000005] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: working around wrong SDL2 mappings (changed version from 0x00000523 to 0x00001130)
[  +0.000005] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor size: 283 bytes
[  +0.000005] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rx axis
[  +0.000003] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Ry axis
[  +0.000003] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Z axis
[  +0.000004] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rz axis
[  +0.000003] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up button mapping
[  +0.000681] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: gamepad detected
[  +0.000005] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: enabling compliance with Linux Gamepad Specification
[  +0.000095] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input9
[  +0.000218] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v11.30 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  +0.000065] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Consumer Control as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input10
[  +0.000056] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control added
[  +0.000055] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Keyboard as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input11
[  +0.000053] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard added
[  +0.000065] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Mouse as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input12
[  +0.000102] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse added
[  +0.000011] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  +0.000005] xpadneo rumble_welcome start
[  +0.000004] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing weak motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  +0.330040] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing strong motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  +0.330048] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing trigger motors: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  +0.330041] xpadneo rumble_welcome took 992ms
[  +0.000015] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: Xbox Wireless Controller [44:16:22:d0:61:72] connected

Controller and Bluetooth Information

xpadneo-btmon.txt
xpadneo-dmesg.txt
xpadneo-lsusb.txt

Additional Context

Here is my setup:

• Raspberry Pi 4 running Moonlight, which connects to a Windows 11 host PC running Apollo(Sunshine).

• The Raspberry Pi streams games from the PC via the Apollo/Moonlight stream with controller rumble passed through.

• The Xbox Series X controller that I use is connected to the Raspberry Pi client via a Bluetooth connection.

• The Bluetooth connection is handled via the TP Link USB dongle, which is connected to the Raspberry Pi 4.

[kakra]

Please retry with the latest version which had several rumble optimizations and some potential crash fixes since v0.11-pre-7:

      xpadneo, rumble: Tighten the rumble throttle timing
      xpadneo, quirks: Add OUI flag checks for new GameSir Nova
      xpadneo, debug: Add Xbox Wireless Controller modern descriptor
      xpadneo, debug: Add Xbox Elite 2 Controller descriptor
      xpadneo, events: Fix synthetic trigger rumble calculation
      xpadneo, rumble: Do not send rumble commands unless ready
      xpadneo, rumble: Properly save and restore IRQ state during locking
      xpadneo, rumble: Remove ff-memless and support rumble natively
      xpadneo: Rename log messages from ff to rumble
      xpadneo, rumble: Reduce CPU busy usage during welcome rumble
      xpadneo, core: Add heuristic detection of HOGP protocol
      xpadneo, device: Use acknowledged GATT Write Request for rumble
      xpadneo, rumble: Eliminate artificial rumble throttling for HOGP
      xpadneo, rumble: Move welcome_rumble to async worker
      xpadneo, debug: Harden OUI parser against NULL dereference
      xpadneo, device: Prevent OOB if rdesc is too small
      xpadneo, quirks: Check for NULL before comparing gamepad name and uniq

If problems remain, we'd need a log from the crash. This can be difficult to set up. The best possible solution is probably to SSH into the RPi, then run dmesg -w and try to reproduce the hard crash. If network was still fine during the crash, you should see it in the SSH output.

[x1000knives]

So I tried the latest version (pre-42) and am noticing the following:

• Hard crash hasn't happened so far after about 20 minutes of gameplay (currently playing RE2 OG, controller rumbles per gunshot)

• Rumble seems stronger than before and I feel it more in the triggers than the handles

• If I disconnect my controller then reconnect it, no input is detected, causing me to reboot the RasPi.

• • This was my experience with earlier versions of xpadneo, but strangely didn't occur on the last few maintenance versions (the ones where I experienced a hard crash on rumble).

• After about 20 minutes of gameplay, the controller seems to rumble for about 7 seconds longer than it should.

Here is a live dmesg -w stream I caught via SSH. The "failed to send rumble" entries at the bottom seem in line with the controller rumbling longer than normal.

[  150.212292] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input4
[  150.212908] hid-generic 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v5.23 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  150.224919] hid_xpadneo: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
[  150.226668] loaded hid-xpadneo v0.11-pre-42-gb514bd4
[  150.274206] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: BLE firmware version 5.23
[  150.274258] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: expecting HOGP protocol, this will cause rumble issues if the controller does not use BLE
[  150.274267] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: pretending XB1S Windows wireless mode (changed PID from 0x0B13 to 0x028E)
[  150.274277] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: working around wrong SDL2 mappings (changed version from 0x00000523 to 0x00001130)
[  150.274306] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: length 283 crc16 0x931d
[  150.274317] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: OUI 44:16:22 (0x44) - globally-assigned, unicast
[  150.274328] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: known checksum crc16 0x931d name 'Xbox Wireless Controller (modern)'
[  150.274340] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rx axis
[  150.274347] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Ry axis
[  150.274356] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Z axis
[  150.274363] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rz axis
[  150.274369] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up button mapping
[  150.281008] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: gamepad detected
[  150.281035] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: enabling compliance with Linux Gamepad Specification
[  150.281259] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input5
[  150.281897] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v11.30 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  150.282051] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Consumer Control as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input6
[  150.282475] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control added
[  150.282624] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Keyboard as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input7
[  150.287719] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard added
[  150.288078] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Mouse as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input8
[  150.288859] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse added
[  150.288921] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  150.288966] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: Xbox Wireless Controller [44:16:22:d0:61:72] connected
[  150.289003] xpadneo rumble_welcome start
[  150.289021] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing weak motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  150.370470] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original version (changed version from 0x00001130 to 0x00000523)
[  150.370505] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original product (changed PID from 0x028E to 0x0B13)
[  150.659521] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing strong motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  151.043505] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing trigger motors: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  151.427493] xpadneo rumble_welcome took 1140ms
[  151.427518] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: please report a bug if your controller did not rumble: uses_hogp 1
[  151.427526] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: rumble streaming enabled
[  151.427552] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: removing controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  151.427560] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: battery removed
[  151.471738] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse removed
[  151.523750] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard removed
[  151.551638] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control removed
[  151.584477] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: BLE firmware version 5.23
[  151.584493] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: expecting HOGP protocol, this will cause rumble issues if the controller does not use BLE
[  151.584498] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: pretending XB1S Windows wireless mode (changed PID from 0x0B13 to 0x028E)
[  151.584503] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: working around wrong SDL2 mappings (changed version from 0x00000523 to 0x00001130)
[  151.584516] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: length 283 crc16 0x931d
[  151.584521] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: OUI 44:16:22 (0x44) - globally-assigned, unicast
[  151.584527] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: known checksum crc16 0x931d name 'Xbox Wireless Controller (modern)'
[  151.584533] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rx axis
[  151.584537] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Ry axis
[  151.584540] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Z axis
[  151.584543] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rz axis
[  151.584547] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up button mapping
[  151.585367] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: gamepad detected
[  151.585372] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: enabling compliance with Linux Gamepad Specification
[  151.585462] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input9
[  151.585861] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v11.30 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  151.585933] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Consumer Control as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input10
[  151.585992] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control added
[  151.586047] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Keyboard as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input11
[  151.586101] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard added
[  151.586159] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Mouse as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input12
[  151.586264] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse added
[  151.586279] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  151.586298] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: Xbox Wireless Controller [44:16:22:d0:61:72] connected
[  151.586312] xpadneo rumble_welcome start
[  151.586320] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing weak motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  151.971489] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing strong motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  152.355530] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing trigger motors: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  152.739519] xpadneo rumble_welcome took 1156ms
[  152.739560] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: please report a bug if your controller did not rumble: uses_hogp 1
[  152.739571] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: rumble streaming enabled
[  178.947486] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: shift mode active: operation of the Xbox button may be limited in Steam Input
[  263.617389] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: throttled rumble reprogramming
[  627.167815] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  633.823895] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  638.943939] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  655.328027] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  660.448075] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  689.120317] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  694.240252] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  699.616291] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5
[  704.736315] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: failed to send rumble report: -5

[kakra]

• Hard crash hasn't happened so far after about 20 minutes of gameplay (currently playing RE2 OG, controller rumbles per gunshot)

Good so far.

• Rumble seems stronger than before and I feel it more in the triggers than the handles

Yes, this may be an effect of how we handle rumble now. Although we removed "max-accumulation" (which was used pre v0.10) the rumble now follows the games intention much more precise and may make it feel stronger. If it is too strong, you can use the second rumble attenuation parameter to soften the trigger rumble motors which are quite strong (small motors which can spin easily and fast while the material, the trigger itself, is very light). See modinfo hid-xpadneo for the attenuation parameter.

• If I disconnect my controller then reconnect it, no input is detected, causing me to reboot the RasPi.

We still need to sort that out - there's another issue report for it. I'm not sure why that happens, I cannot reproduce it here. But we have enough reports to know that this is a real issue and not just some bad software interaction limited to only a few installations. It may, however, be related to your last observation.

• • This was my experience with earlier versions of xpadneo, but strangely didn't occur on the last few maintenance versions (the ones where I experienced a hard crash on rumble).

The difference between current master and stable maintenance releases is mainly that we removed ff-memless and use a native rumble implementation now. It should make rumble more precise for games and reduce aliasing effects.

• After about 20 minutes of gameplay, the controller seems to rumble for about 7 seconds longer than it should.

Well, this should not happen. It usually means we've been overwhelming the hardware, or rather triggered an instability in the controller firmware. It will happen if rumble is sent too fast. What follows is that (a) either the firmware stops responding to rumble at all, (b) the connection just dies, or (c) rumble will run too long or become delayed, even input may become laggy. Usually, the controller firmware eventually crashes hard some time later, and you need to powercycle the controller if it doesn't power cycle by itself.

One common indicator seems to be firmware version 5.21 or 5.23. I already updated my controllers but they stick to BLE firmware version 5.15 although the Xbox accessories app says they are version 5.23 now. So I believe you are using a different hardware revision which has new quirks and shows different firmware versions.

Error -5 means input/output error, so the kernel is no longer able to send HID reports to the controller. I wonder if receiving HID reports still works at that point: Does the controller still send input if you move the sticks or press buttons after seeing error -5?

Previous to the error, we already saw that xpadneo complained that the game is sending rumble too fast (it will log this only once otherwise it would spam the logs). Since games usually send rumble once per rendered frame, do you run your game with fps uncapped, read: do you have v-sync turned off and use unlimited fps? Could you retry with fps limited to 60? The controller can survive a rumble rate of up to around 100 hz, beyond that it will become unstable.

I run with fps limited to 60 always because that's the limit of my monitor. So this may be another difference in my system (not only 5.15 vs. 5.23).

Thanks for the report. This is one of the best reports of these problems we've got so far, thanks due to capture via SSH dmesg.

[x1000knives]

So I tried reducing my host PC's refresh rate from 120 to 60, and also swapped out my controller for another Series X one (my previous one was having and issue where I couldn't update its firmware).

I'm unfortunately still having the same problem with my controller rumbling for about 5-8 seconds longer than it should. This didn't come up until about 20 minutes into my gameplay, everything was pretty stable during the first 20 minutes. No crashes at all either.

Here's the latest dmesg -w output:

[  188.990479] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input4
[  188.991350] hid-generic 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v5.23 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  189.004870] hid_xpadneo: loading out-of-tree module taints kernel.
[  189.006323] loaded hid-xpadneo v0.11-pre-42-gb514bd4
[  189.051569] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: BLE firmware version 5.23
[  189.051611] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: expecting HOGP protocol, this will cause rumble issues if the controller does not use BLE
[  189.051621] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: pretending XB1S Windows wireless mode (changed PID from 0x0B13 to 0x028E)
[  189.051632] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: working around wrong SDL2 mappings (changed version from 0x00000523 to 0x00001130)
[  189.051658] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: length 283 crc16 0x931d
[  189.051669] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: OUI 44:16:22 (0x44) - globally-assigned, unicast
[  189.051681] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: known checksum crc16 0x931d name 'Xbox Wireless Controller (modern)'
[  189.051693] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rx axis
[  189.051701] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Ry axis
[  189.051708] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Z axis
[  189.051716] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rz axis
[  189.051724] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up button mapping
[  189.053047] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: gamepad detected
[  189.053060] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: enabling compliance with Linux Gamepad Specification
[  189.053235] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input5
[  189.053606] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v11.30 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  189.053748] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Consumer Control as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input6
[  189.053862] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control added
[  189.053986] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Keyboard as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input7
[  189.054110] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard added
[  189.054239] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Mouse as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input8
[  189.054477] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse added
[  189.054502] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  189.054531] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: Xbox Wireless Controller [44:16:22:b2:8b:d2] connected
[  189.055039] xpadneo rumble_welcome start
[  189.055060] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing weak motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  189.135716] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original version (changed version from 0x00001130 to 0x00000523)
[  189.135743] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original product (changed PID from 0x028E to 0x0B13)
[  189.582804] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing strong motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  189.962803] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing trigger motors: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  190.346793] xpadneo rumble_welcome took 1292ms
[  190.346835] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: please report a bug if your controller did not rumble: uses_hogp 1
[  190.346854] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: rumble streaming enabled
[  190.346905] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: removing controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  190.346921] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: battery removed
[  190.395086] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse removed
[  190.434999] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard removed
[  190.463099] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control removed
[  190.508222] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: BLE firmware version 5.23
[  190.508249] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: expecting HOGP protocol, this will cause rumble issues if the controller does not use BLE
[  190.508258] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: pretending XB1S Windows wireless mode (changed PID from 0x0B13 to 0x028E)
[  190.508269] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: working around wrong SDL2 mappings (changed version from 0x00000523 to 0x00001130)
[  190.508292] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: length 283 crc16 0x931d
[  190.508303] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: OUI 44:16:22 (0x44) - globally-assigned, unicast
[  190.508316] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: report descriptor: known checksum crc16 0x931d name 'Xbox Wireless Controller (modern)'
[  190.508328] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rx axis
[  190.508336] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Ry axis
[  190.508343] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Z axis
[  190.508350] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up Rz axis
[  190.508357] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: fixing up button mapping
[  190.509666] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: gamepad detected
[  190.509676] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: enabling compliance with Linux Gamepad Specification
[  190.509860] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input9
[  190.510344] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: input,hidraw1: BLUETOOTH HID v11.30 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  190.510489] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Consumer Control as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input10
[  190.510650] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control added
[  190.510828] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Keyboard as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input11
[  190.513350] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard added
[  190.513620] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Mouse as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0001/input/input12
[  190.513995] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse added
[  190.514029] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  190.514076] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: Xbox Wireless Controller [44:16:22:b2:8b:d2] connected
[  190.514908] xpadneo rumble_welcome start
[  190.514950] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing weak motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  190.886753] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing strong motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  191.270760] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: testing trigger motors: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  191.654759] xpadneo rumble_welcome took 1140ms
[  191.654783] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: please report a bug if your controller did not rumble: uses_hogp 1
[  191.654791] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: rumble streaming enabled
[  632.070886] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original version (changed version from 0x00001130 to 0x00000523)
[  632.070919] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: reverting to original product (changed PID from 0x028E to 0x0B13)
[  632.070934] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: rumble streaming disabled
[  632.070948] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: removing controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  632.070959] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: battery removed
[  632.138201] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: mouse removed
[  632.185735] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: keyboard removed
[  632.201680] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: consumer control removed
[  632.201877] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0001: ff: effect 0 erased
[  632.521703] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: BLE firmware version 5.23
[  632.521731] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: expecting HOGP protocol, this will cause rumble issues if the controller does not use BLE
[  632.521741] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: pretending XB1S Windows wireless mode (changed PID from 0x0B13 to 0x028E)
[  632.521753] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: working around wrong SDL2 mappings (changed version from 0x00000523 to 0x00001130)
[  632.521775] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: report descriptor: length 283 crc16 0x931d
[  632.521786] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: report descriptor: OUI 44:16:22 (0x44) - globally-assigned, unicast
[  632.521800] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: report descriptor: known checksum crc16 0x931d name 'Xbox Wireless Controller (modern)'
[  632.521854] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: fixing up Rx axis
[  632.521864] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: fixing up Ry axis
[  632.521872] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: fixing up Z axis
[  632.521880] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: fixing up Rz axis
[  632.521887] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: fixing up button mapping
[  632.524245] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: gamepad detected
[  632.524270] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: enabling compliance with Linux Gamepad Specification
[  632.524618] input: Xbox Wireless Controller as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0002/input/input13
[  632.527047] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: input,hidraw0: BLUETOOTH HID v11.30 Gamepad [Xbox Wireless Controller] on e0:d3:62:64:6c:13
[  632.527233] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Consumer Control as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0002/input/input14
[  632.533709] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: consumer control added
[  632.539103] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Keyboard as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0002/input/input15
[  632.540033] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: keyboard added
[  632.546267] input: Xbox Wireless Controller Mouse as /devices/virtual/misc/uhid/0005:045E:0B13.0002/input/input16
[  632.568042] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: mouse added
[  632.568068] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: controller quirks: 0x00000050
[  632.568089] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: Xbox Wireless Controller [44:16:22:b2:8b:d2] connected
[  632.568100] xpadneo rumble_welcome start
[  632.568107] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: testing weak motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  633.125450] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: testing strong motor: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  633.509445] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: testing trigger motors: sustain 50ms release 50ms loop 2 wait 30ms
[  633.893451] xpadneo rumble_welcome took 1328ms
[  633.893472] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: please report a bug if your controller did not rumble: uses_hogp 1
[  633.893479] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: rumble streaming enabled
[  997.969943] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: throttled rumble reprogramming
[ 1778.654252] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1783.774261] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1831.134212] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1836.254169] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1879.006104] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1884.126085] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1976.797932] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1981.917938] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1990.622134] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 1995.741915] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2037.213847] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2042.333843] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2212.319785] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2217.440176] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2224.351942] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2229.472038] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2234.592044] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2239.712155] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2245.088172] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2250.208223] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: failed to send rumble report: -5
[ 2271.312738] xpadneo 0005:045E:0B13.0002: shift mode active: operation of the Xbox button may be limited in Steam Input

Let me know if you'd like me to submit a separate bug report for the inconsistent rumble, since the crash bug seems to be resolved from what I can tell.

[kakra]

I'm unfortunately still having the same problem with my controller rumbling for about 5-8 seconds longer than it should. This didn't come up until about 20 minutes into my gameplay, everything was pretty stable during the first 20 minutes. No crashes at all either.

This is a behavior we saw a few years back before we added aggressive throttling. The cause has never been exactly identified. But there were a few observations:

• This behavior heavily depends on the used Bluetooth chipset. If possible, you could try a different chipset, e.g. using a USB dongle if you currently use an internal chipset. Updating the linux-firmware package to use a different firmware for the Bluetooth chipset sometimes helped.
• Older Xbox controller firmwares usually had more problems. Since you are on a very current firmware, it looks like this problem may have come back. My firmware is on 5.23, too, and I cannot reproduce it. But Linux still shows firmware 5.15 while the Xbox Accessories App shows 5.23. So I believe the difference is the hardware revision of the controller.

With recent xpadneo versions, we introduced a new method to send rumble reports by using acknowledged rumble packets, that means, the controller reports back that it received the report, and we wait until that happens. This way, the connection will throttle itself. If xpadneo reports "throttled rumble reprogramming", it detected that the controller did not process the previous report yet and won't send another report so it won't queue reports over a long period of time. Instead we buffer the last report from the game and send it after the controller confirmed it can receive another report. This mechanism only works with BLE connections because input and rumble output then works via HOGP.

This also means: rumble should never queue up. If rumble effects play very delayed, this must already be a problem in the Bluetooth connection itself. xpadneo can just take care to not queue up any more rumble reports.

It also means: Rumble should not continue to play 5-8 seconds longer than expected. This means that xpadneo is not able to send the rumble report to stop rumble because the controller did not acknowledge a previous report. Again, this is a problem in the Bluetooth connection.

Finally, your controller stops accepting data completely: error -5 means "input/output error", so the Bluetooth connection is essentially dead (even if bluez still says that the controller is connected). This also points to a problem in the Bluetooth connection stability. I wonder if the game is still receiving input from the controller in this situation.

You tested with two different controllers, probably different hardware revisions? So I'd this moves the suspect toward the Bluetooth chipset.

It would be interesting to check your observed behavior disappears or changes if you use modparam force_disable_hogp=1 which will revert to the old behavior of sending unacknowledged rumble reports and just wait around 20ms +/- 10ms (the kernel cannot pause very exact times unless we'd use HR timers) before accepting any new report. This parameter will be added by commit ff809ae, it is not in master. Please cherry pick or switch to my patch queue #592.