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See also #9 for more granular hosting types, which could be another solution to this problem. |
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I received an email today from someone who has food scraps to donate but no listings nearby to drop-off to. Here’s a generalised version of what I wrote back to her, which could be more helpful than the CTA in the above Call it out:
This bit talks about the Copywriting examples in the promo kit, which I think is a bit strange to send direct to council folks:
So this would require a new “Councils and municipalities” page (that is yet to exist), that would put the contents of this Copywriting examples file inline. |
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Interesting problem! I'd definitely be inclined more towards supporting residential donors but also encouraging them to more usefully participate (eg, as you suggest, prompting them to write to their council) - rather than deterring them. I think it can't hurt to have anyone interested to list themselves on the site as long as it's clear what they are (eg residential donor is fine). I agree it's unlikely anyone will take them up on their offer of "come to me to collect my banana peels", but their presence on the site could, for example:
I think it's true that beginner donors might think they're doing composters a favour rather than the other way around. But it won't hurt them to give it a try. I think a follow-up email is also a great idea. I'm sure the Cafes will come to the party! Some of them will already have existing relationships formed via Sharewaste or word-of-mouth, and might not bother to sign up to Peels, but I'm sure new ones will trickle in over time. Could we do some suggested wording that could be handed out to cafes? In terms of the email you sent to an interested donor, re "Until kerbside food scrap pickup is introduced..." |
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Thanks for your help with this, @Jo-Melbourne! Well put: we can both support residential donors and encourage proactivity, which in turn has those knock-on effects: encouraging folks nearby to either set themselves up or collaborate.
Do you mean something like flyers that explain Peels (and how it's useful) to cafes, that are then dropped around to them? If so, any strong feelings on what the contents would be? My mind goes to pointing out:
Yes! I love hearing evidence of community composting still thriving despite kerbside pickup. Case studies like yours are helpful when I inevitably get asked why Peels should be supported in FOGO areas. Thanks for sharing! |
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Problem
Despite it not being supported, some users are cobbling together residential donation listings by choosing the
businesslisting type and naming it “household with excess scraps” or similar.Here is a running list of examples:
The result is confusing for visitors because the
businesslisting types are designed with that as an assumption. For example:That doesn’t make much sense. So we should either better support this type of residential donor host or design better guardrails to deter them.
Pros of better supporting residential donor hosts:
Cons of better supporting residential donor hosts:
I’d love feedback on the below proposals, or suggestions for other ideas.
Proposals
Here are various ways we could go about better supporting and/or deterring residential hosts, and their implications:
Deter residential donors
Call it out
There is currently a two-step quiz that new hosts take to help refine their listing type. We could create a new third step—if ‘I donate scraps’ is selected on the first and ‘residential’ on the second—that explicitly calls out the situation. It could go something like this:
It directly addresses any would-be folks who would otherwise work around to create a fake business listing. With a fair amount of disappointment, though.
Remove donor option completely
There is currently only one legitimate business host: WasteWood Local Recycled Timber, with no pick-up enquiries (as far as I can tell). The intention was, like ShareWaste, to have a bunch of cafes and similar hospitality venues list their used-yet-valuable materials like hessian sacks or spent coffee. That hasn’t materialised.
By removing the business host type entirely, we simplify the listing creation form and make it clear that donation isn’t an option. But determined people may very well just make a regular (household) listing then, putting us back to square one, whilst also ensuring those desired cafes never join.
Better support residential donors
Split
donor_residentialanddonor_businesstypes. Maybe call the other existing oneshost_residentialandhost_communityto match.Support yet encourage initiative
Upon making a residential donor listing, these new hosts could be told clearly that they should proactively contact compost hosts and make the effort to bring their scraps over. During the listing creating, fields like the Donation details could have descriptive text to remind them to consider what scraps are useful for others, not just for them to offload.
I know there is a common misconception amongst donors that they are doing hosts are favour by donating. Quite often, compost hosts are inconveniencing themselves by accepting other people’s compost, for the sake of getting other folks into the process. We should make this dynamic clear.
Additional ideas
Email follow-ups
We could email these hosts (we should really be emailing all host types) 𝑥 weeks after listing creation, if they have had no conversations started, with something like:
Map filters
We could add host-type filtering to the map, in case things get out of hand with the residential donor types.
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