Embedded / Support sliding sync /syncv3

[matrixbot]

This issue was originally created by @genofire at matrix-org/dendrite#3236.

Description:

We are able to configure "well-know" yet, since #3039 .
But it would be nice, that dendrite support sliding out of the box.
So it would be nice, that the library of sliding-sync is used in dendrite (embedded) or reimplement that API.

[matrixbot]

This comment was originally posted by @nustiueudinastea at matrix-org/dendrite#3236 (comment).

Hey @S7evinK, sorry for tagging you directly, but I wanted to get your take on the possibility of merging the sliding sync proxy into the dendrite codebase. Is there any big showstopper for doing it, like overlapping API routes? Apart from that the sliding sync should also be made to work with sqlite. If there are no big show stoppers I might give it a try.

[matrixbot]

This comment was originally posted by @S7evinK at matrix-org/dendrite#3236 (comment).

Hey @S7evinK, sorry for tagging you directly, but I wanted to get your take on the possibility of merging the sliding sync proxy into the dendrite codebase. Is there any big showstopper for doing it, like overlapping API routes? Apart from that the sliding sync should also be made to work with sqlite. If there are no big show stoppers I might give it a try.

I doubt it's worth spending time integrating the sliding sync proxy at the moment, since there's quite some work being done in Synapse to implement "simplified sliding sync" - see here - which I believe is the way forward. Unfortunately there's no MSC (or updated MSC3575) yet.

[matrixbot]

This comment was originally posted by @nustiueudinastea at matrix-org/dendrite#3236 (comment).

Ok, sounds good. Do you know if there are any plans or resources to implement it in dendrite once the simplified sliding sync is fleshed out in Synapse?

[matrixbot]

This comment was originally posted by @S7evinK at matrix-org/dendrite#3236 (comment).

AFAIK, there are no plans or resources to implement it in Dendrite, unfortunately.

Dendrite is currently in maintenance mode. :/

[matrixbot]

This comment was originally posted by @randyg503 at matrix-org/dendrite#3236 (comment).

Dendrite is currently in maintenance mode. :/

Based on that, I'm curious if/when the Dendrite description text (at https://github.com/matrix-org/dendrite) which states that Dendrite is beta software which is ready for early adopters might be revised to better reflect its actual current state?

[matrixbot]

This comment was originally posted by @S7evinK at matrix-org/dendrite#3236 (comment).

MSC4186 for Simplified Sliding Sync exists now.

[pat-s]

So, am I understanding this correctly that Synapse now has native support for MSC4186 but Dendrite not and won't ever get it?

So far I've been using Dendrite with an extern sliding-sync backend on k8s. However, the chart I've been using now removed this part as sliding-sync is natively available in the companion Synapse chart. I couldn't find another chart so far which provides sliding-sync standalone, hence it looks like I am stuck with an outdated sliding-sync chart :/

Any hints are appreciated, not following along all the complex parts around the Matrix ecosystem.

[S7evinK]

So, am I understanding this correctly that Synapse now has native support for MSC4186 but Dendrite not and won't ever get it?

Dendrite is going to get support for MSC4186 at some point. But there is no ETA for this.

So far I've been using Dendrite with an extern sliding-sync backend on k8s. However, the chart I've been using now removed this part as sliding-sync is natively available in the companion Synapse chart. I couldn't find another chart so far which provides sliding-sync standalone, hence it looks like I am stuck with an outdated sliding-sync chart :/

Given the proxy is going to be archived soon, there won't be any updates to the chart anyway.

[sinanmohd]

as of now you can't use element x anymore if you're running dendrite, as it dropped support for the sliding sync proxy

element-hq/element-x-android#4336

[pr0ton11]

Could this please get some priority?
Since the client dropped support for the proxy there is no workaround :(

[nustiueudinastea]

As far as I know dendrite is not developed anymore so I don’t think this will be implemented.

[yverry]

Good to know, thanks! I've switched to conduwuit 👌

[sanderhollaar]

conduwuit

Archived: https://github.com/girlbossceo/conduwuit

Reason: https://girlboss.ceo/~strawberry/conduwuit.txt

[sanderhollaar]

As far as I know dendrite is not developed anymore so I don’t think this will be implemented.

Do you have a source for that information?

I'm using dendrite and am not aware development has stopped.

[nustiueudinastea]

It’s speculation on my part based on comments I have seen around and the glacial pace of changes in this repo. I guess it’s a matter of funding and priorities and Element just doesn’t have the time and money to invest in dendrite. It’s just unfortunate that conduwuit was archived because it was the best we had in terms of simple to run standalone servers.