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Meeting August 29th 2025

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Participants

  • Philipp Ahmann (Host)
  • Wendi Urribarri
  • Tu Thanh Nguyen
  • Gabriele Paoloni (alternative host)
  • Daniel Weingaertner
  • Michael Armbruster
  • Vinicius Tadeu Zein
  • Simone Weiss

Previous participants

  • Philipp Ahmann (Host)
  • Leonardo Rossetti
  • Naoto Yamaguchi
  • Yuya Okamoto
  • Hiroaki Shigehara
  • Hugo Cornelis
  • Sebastian Hetze
  • Karen Bennet
  • Nicole Pappler
  • Ivan Perez
  • Philippe Quere
  • Roberto Paccapeli
  • Eric Laurin
  • Fadi Labib
  • Daniel Haack
  • Mikel Azkarate
  • Nicole Pappler

Topics & Notes

Action items from last meeting(s)

  • AI-Simone and AI-Michael will create a spread sheet for Xen
    • Simone and Michael will sync.
  • AI-Wendi will create a spread sheet for LLVM
  • AI-Ivan will create a spread sheet for Linux
  • AI-Nicole will create a spread sheet for Zephyr (later probably due to BW issues)
  • AI-Gab add a descriptions in Best practices sheet (as he anyway has to do it for another topic).

Communication

Refine and distribute tasks for OSS project agnostic template workbook

  • Based on: https://lists.elisa.tech/g/lighthouse/message/9
  • Link to sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15d3uPwq5giIBigJUEPW5VF4Fnnpkmu1HNnD7Nr3HTtI/
  • Template is a merger of the QMS structure and Practices worksheet.
  • Tasks:
    • Review the template sheet.
    • Please add any other projects you think are relevant.
    • The "Description" column for the QMS aspects is currently empty. Anyone is welcome to add a description for each point!
  • Help filling the workbook!
    • Descriptions in Best practices sheet need to be added.
      • This was also similar to the finding by Greg on the "requirements within the kernel". It is needed to see what it means.
    • Gab: Will check and take an action item to provide descriptions.
  • "Thesis S. Tatschner: Towards a More Sustainable and Secure Software Tooling in Free/Libre Open Source Software Environments" was mentioned by Nicole. We need to check with her, if there is a chance to get a preview.

Phrase small deliverables - What means participation?

  • Small deliverables can also mean members can work for 1h a week or 1h in two weeks to deliver a small piece of work.
  • Review and leave comments is also a small delivery.
  • Available things:
    • Target project as mentioned.
    • Template available
  • First goal:
    • Have something ready for OSS Japan conference "Towards an OSS Best Practices Standard for Regulated Industries".
  • Action for next meeting:

Financing (money and/or capacity) / Funding of the project

  • general money could be spend on resources, research (e.g. surveys or students)
  • Mentorship program from Linux Foundation (would require an actual mentor)
  • Workshops, conference participation, infrastructure
  • Support for administrative parts.
  • Investing time within the SIG is also a form of financing.
  • PFPs are an option, but also require commitment over a longer period of time.
  • Some survey responses indicated to allocate money to the topic. This means we need to show some good first results.
  • Alessandro had a visitor at the ELISA booth, who was asking for topics for a European sovereign fund and Alessandro said that Safety and OSS could be good.
    • The person was from a company called "Melleri".
  • The CNES engineers also showed some interest after the talk by Ramon and also at the booth. -> Need to check leads from OSS EU.
  • Check with the companies from the survey, which actually considered funding the activity.

AoB

  • QMS slides presented by Gab and Roberto are merged into repo: https://github.com/elisa-tech/lighthouse-oss/blob/main/docs/decks/QMS%20structure.pptx

  • Gab and Philipp submitted a session on the lighthouse-sig for OSS Japan:

    Established quality standards, designed for traditional V-Model development, are inadequate for evaluating the code-driven, CI/CD-based nature of modern (open source) software. This fundamental mismatch significantly delays OSS adoption in regulated industries, particularly for safety-critical systems where quality assurance is crucial.

    This session presents the current status of creating an OSS quality standard. It synthesizes relevant academic research publications and proposes exemplary open source projects with established development practices, like the Linux kernel. The presentation actively seeks audience feedback on the selection criteria for reference projects and literature, to make commitment to a collaborative, transparent and community-driven approach.

    The talk will further contain a structured overview of the three-phase roadmap for standard development and outlines specific upcoming milestones to pick up the audience.

  • ELISA booth at OSS-EU:

    • Good interaction.
    • Many people interested in Space Grade.
    • More general introduction needed. "I never heard from you, what do you do." -> Item for TSC agenda.
    • No specific interest in the demo. Having or not having did not make a big difference.
    • Better have a screen sharing the talks and upcoming sessions.

Helpful links

Collaborative editing: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/lighthouse-oss-af5r?lang=en

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