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Meeting September 12th 2025
Philipp Ahmann edited this page Sep 12, 2025
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- Philipp Ahmann (Host)
- Wendi Urribarri
- Ivan Perez
- Hugo Cornelis
- Simone Weiss
- Gabriele Paoloni (alternative host)
- Nicole Pappler
- Michael Armbruster
- Tu Thanh Nguyen
- Daniel Pisanu
- Olivier Charrier
- Philipp Ahmann (Host)
- Daniel Weingaertner
- Vinicius Tadeu Zein
- Leonardo Rossetti
- Naoto Yamaguchi
- Yuya Okamoto
- Hiroaki Shigehara
- Sebastian Hetze
- Karen Bennet
- Philippe Quere
- Roberto Paccapeli
- Eric Laurin
- Fadi Labib
- Daniel Haack
- Mikel Azkarate
- Nicole Pappler
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AI-Simone and AI-Michael will create a spread sheet for Xen
- Simone and Michael will sync.
- AI-Wendi will create a spread sheet for LLVM
- AI-Daniel W. and AI-Ivan will create a spread sheet for Linux
- AI-Nicole will create a spread sheet for Zephyr (later probably due to BW issues)
- AI-Gab add a descriptions in Best practices sheet (as he anyway has to do it for another topic).
- Template for filling: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15d3uPwq5giIBigJUEPW5VF4Fnnpkmu1HNnD7Nr3HTtI
- Daniel W.: Take the template and fill it with the things from Linux. Present what is already there.
- Stefan's Thesis is now published
- Adding the content to the spreadsheet broke the template. -> Currently Wendi fixes the list.
- Updated template gets published by next week.
- Link to the thesis: https://researchrepository.ul.ie/entities/publication/e4b7b543-f927-4bad-8946-bca9454e48d0
- AI-Nicole Invite Stefan to the next Elisa workshop. https://forms.gle/PrvR4JAEbCFQTVPy9
- Adding the content to the spreadsheet broke the template. -> Currently Wendi fixes the list.
- Small deliverables can also mean members can work for 1h a week or 1h in two weeks to deliver a small piece of work.
- First goal:
- Have something ready for OSS Japan conference "Towards an OSS Best Practices Standard for Regulated Industries".
- Philipp: Try to get an understanding about ISO/IEC/IEEE 32675:2022 "Information technology — DevOps — Building reliable and secure systems including application build, package and deployment" (https://www.iso.org/standard/83670.html) and how it relates to our work.
- https://github.com/elisa-tech/lighthouse-oss/blob/pahmann/iso32675/docs/ieee2675-2021.md
- Should define best practices for agile software development
- Code driven development could better fit agile practices, than e.g. v-model based QM like ASPICE
- What do we want to achieve by reading the standard, what do we want to report.
- Does the standard fit to how Open Source Software is developed?
- Could the standard be enhanced to include open source best practices?
- Worth to reach out to ISO/IEC/IEEE to extract some parts for use in the OSS project repo?
- Check if there is a mapping from standard to criteria we listed in the template.
- In case of high overlap, we could consider to extend the standard.
- Two classes one reduce risk of product other one reduces risk of engineering (development)
- OSS has limited risk in engineering.
- E.g. ASPICE has a lot of good information, but the addressed risk of engineering matters less.
- You may neglect some parts of the standard for early risk mitigation due to its later use.
- Maybe mostly the reduction of risk of products is the part we are looking for.
- Don't mix standards for development and standard for auditor. A checklist for an auditor does not matches the complete steps of development.
- For SW tools: Development standards may be the base for audits, but also best practices from engineering are taken as base for assessments/audit.
- general money could be spend on resources, research (e.g. surveys or students)
- Mentorship program from Linux Foundation (would require an actual mentor)
- Workshops, conference participation, infrastructure
- Support for administrative parts.
- Investing time within the SIG is also a form of financing.
- Check with the companies from the survey, which actually considered funding the activity.
- ELISA workshop (Nov 18 to 20 in Munich) topic proposal open: https://forms.gle/PrvR4JAEbCFQTVPy9
- One proposal: Status of Lighthouse-SIG
- List of OSS activities related to Functional Safety: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lhhzFEcrGZPHxxBLfBg3EoVm_RZhEVtKvlKTiTXYLMc
- Reschedule meeting: Next meeting collides with eLSA symposium -> pull in to September 19th
Helpful links
- Repository: https://github.com/elisa-tech/lighthouse-oss/
- Location of meeting minutes: https://github.com/elisa-tech/lighthouse-oss/wiki
- GDrive: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1MRq7-5fnGnB4Ve3pJn0coD4XeOMT_rbl
- Mailing list: https://lists.elisa.tech/g/lighthouse
- Discord: https://chat.elisa.tech
Collaborative editing: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/lighthouse-oss-af5r?lang=en