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Roll call

** indicates TSC voting members*

Host

  • *Philipp Ahmann

Attended this meeting

  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • Jielin Yu
  • *Nicole Pappler
  • *Olivier Charrier
  • Pete Brink
  • *Sudip Mukherjee
  • *Chris Temple
  • *Matt Weber
  • Simone Weiss
  • *Gab Paoloni

Regrets

  • Kate Stewart

Attended recently in the past

  • *Luigi Pellecchia
  • *Gab Paoloni
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Paul Albertella
  • *Christopher Temple
  • *Nicole Pappler
  • *Olivier Charrier
  • *Kate Stewart
  • *Paul Albertella
  • *Igor Stoppa
  • *Alessandro Carminati
  • *Gabriele Paoloni
  • *Matthew Weber
  • *Matt Kelly
  • *Sudip Mukherjee
  • *Lukas Bulwahn
  • Henrik Brandle
  • Pierre Brangier
  • Patrick Uven
  • Sebastian Hetze
  • Panos Kalorog
  • Pete Brink
  • Michael Mahoney
  • Jaylin Yu
  • Victor Lu
  • Naresh Ravuri
  • Elana Copperman
  • Steve VanderLeest
  • Qasim
  • Stephen Oresanya

Topics & Notes

Check past action items

  • Action items in github issues
  • AI: EMQ SDV WG ideas to be added to one of next TSC meeting agenda
    • Continue discussion, already involvement in AGL SDV activities by EMQ.
    • Chat also with Walt about it.

Next ELISA Workshop Timing & Location

  • Poll shows a preference to have the meeting at Nvidia in San Jose
  • New date to be checked for November after OSS Korea (due to TSC chair absence in October)
    • Options: Nov 10th+11th, Nov 11th+12th, Nov 17th+18th
  • Have potentially a side event (ELISA mini summit) around OSS Korea to pick up people from Asia as well.
    • Tentative idea: Tues Nov 4th afternoon
    • Good fit for those attending OSS Korea.
    • Boeing is has team in Korea which may participate.
    • Content (focus Automotive) by EMQ (Jaylin) to the mini summit is very welcome.
  • Try to conclude date and venue within next 2 weeks (max. 3 weeks)

Quality of Open Source Research

  • Should we try to have an official survey on the "quality" of Open Source Software components?
  • Who would be interested in preparing a survey together with LF Research?
  • Past research examples conducted by LF Research: https://www.linuxfoundation.org/research
  • Due to new regulation like CRA and related, people come up with concerns on the software they are using/consuming. A survey can be useful to collect thoughts and evidences to settle grounds on the usage of Open Source with a focus on quality aspects.
  • Set what is a quality baseline of open source.
  • Example to consider for Community health as an existing framework already provided by LF: https://insights.linuxfoundation.org/project/nanomq/repository/nanomq-nanomq?timeRange=past365days&start=2024-07-02&end=2025-07-02
    • Others may come from LF OpenSSF Scorecards, TODO, OpenChain, CHAOSS, ...

Glossary / Big Picture

  • Simone wants to start writing down a glossary in ELISA directory.
  • https://github.com/elisa-tech/directory
  • Start to collect terms until next week, put it on the branch so that others can share feedback.
  • This creates an initial overview and can be enhanced
  • Different communities use terms differently. This can be confusing, if not handled properly.
  • Terms can be different e.g. safety function from IEC 61508 is something different than the safety relevant function in ISO 26262, which itself has another meaning in IEC 61508.
  • Keep it short and brief.
  • Simone will lead, Nicole, Pete, Olivier, and Chris are willing to provide feedback on the draft.

AGL SDV EG collaboration

  • Discussion took place during OSS NA in Denver last week.
  • Continue the discussion on Tuesdays at the AGL SDV EG meeting at 12:00 UTC (14:00 CEST)
  • Architecture in AGL is not settled completely and role of Linux need to become clear.
  • Once role is clearer, we take next actions inside ELISA. So far Architecture WG and Automotive WG will participate in Tuesdays AGL SDV EG meeting starting from August 19th onwards.

Discord messaging system

  • Check: https://chat.elisa.tech
  • Working group leads will receive a mail, to decide, if they want to have their own channel.

OSS Europe in Amsterdam

  • Safety-Critical track will be available.
  • ELISA is sponsor and will have a booth.
  • We need support for staffing.
  • Min will drop a mail to TSC and ambassadors for support.

Short status from WGs

Up to 3 bullet points

  • Aerospace/Space *

  • Automotive

    • See agenda topic from today on SDV topics

  • Medical (paused)

  • Architecture *

  • Linux Features *

  • OSEP *

  • Tools *

  • Systems

    • Lighthouse Repo has first PR merged
    • Mailing list set up & Discord channel prepared
    • Next meeting Friday July 4th

AoB

Announcements

Topics for seminar series

  • To be defined: SDV seminar by EMQ to motivate the update and cloud part of HPC systems
  • RT webinar once PREEMPT_RT as last patch is mainline.🥳
  • Past webinars on website: https://elisa.tech/seminar-series/
  • Later this year:
  • ELISA user story by a company.
  • Julia Lawall about formal verification (derived from Lund Linux Con presentation)

Upcoming events

  • 08-09 Jul - AGL AMM Berlin
  • 25-27 Aug - OSS EU
  • 09-14 Sep - IAA Munich

Remarks

Collaborative editing: https://mensuel.framapad.org/p/elisa-tsc-minutes-a9tp?lang=en

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