May 26, 2025 ‐ 13:00 UTC

Host:

• Philipp Ahmann

Participants:

• Leonardo Rossetti
• Victor Lu
• Daniel Weingaertner

Regrets:

Attended Recently

• Troy Sabin
• Daniel Weingaertner
• Nicole Pappler
• Naoto Yamaguchi
• Sebastian Hetze
• Gabriele Paoloni
• Patrick Uven
• Troy Sabin
• Rinat Shagisultanov
• Walt Miner
• Masanori Itoh
• Kate Stewart
• Karen Bennet
• Slim Dhouibi
• Roberto Paccapeli
• Steven Carbno
• Alfred Strauch
• Olivier Charrier

Topics & Notes:

Check past action items

• AI-Sebastian: Involvement of DIN can also be interesting.
  • Discussion re-initialized and continues. DIN responded to survey.
• AI-Philipp: Get the corrected picture and the content of the press release into the systems WG repo.
• AI-Philipp: Check with OFE (Astor), and eventually LFE (Mirko) and Eclipse Foundation (Sara) about EU contacts.

Next steps on survey

• Status:
  • 46 responses
  • few are willing to finance (~3 companies)
  • Many willing to actively contribute and engage (~50%)
  • Many responses also from Germany
• How to get started?
  • Collect mails and create mailing list from those who want to contribute.
  • Proper communication channel to be found: Discord/Matrix/Slack, vs. first opening call, vs. mailing list only
  • Start potentially with a direct 1:1 mail.
  • Reach out to those willing to finance the topic explicitly
• Timing?
  • After public holidays in Germany. Week June 16th to 20th for a first meeting and another maybe first week of July
  • Setup a poll to find one or two meeting slots.
• Topics for a first meeting:
  • Financing
    • Going for funded project?
    • Funding opportunities known by people joining meeting.
    • Just volunteers? -> How much time is available
  • Way of working
    • How are we going to work on the open standard? What will be the working model?
    • Project lead for coordination and planning?
    • Packages based on skills and availability?
    • People writing and people responding?
  • Draft work packages and organization/structure of the same
• Operations:
  • Funding incl. public funded project? -> This requires coordination and a pushing person (owner).
  • Start working or create a proposal (which also causes efforts)
  • Cross-check: Based on responses, can we get it under umbrella of HAL4SDV or Shift2SDV? --> Requires overlap of response.
• Topic for next Systems WG meeting: Create an agenda for a first meeting.

Population of Lighthouse-OSS repo

• Repo created: https://github.com/elisa-tech/lighthouse-oss
• Philipp to add some first content from Systems WG repo.
• Existing material can be found here:
  • https://github.com/elisa-tech/wg-systems/pull/16/
• Structure to be discussed.

AoB

• Lund Workshop material published
  • Blog by Paul: https://elisa.tech/blog/2025/05/21/the-open-projects-rethinking-safety-culture/
  • Slides: https://directory.elisa.tech/workshops/index.html#may-2025-lund
  • YouTube Recordings not yet public (under prep).
• In TSC on Wednesday we will discuss about Workshop survey responses and next workshop considerations.
  • Currently November is under discussion (may be in US)
• Roadmap 2025 and what has been achieved 2024 can be extracted from the WG updates from beginning of the year:
  • https://directory.elisa.tech/annual-update/index.html#february-2025
• Related activities to CRA could be: https://d3fend.mitre.org/ -> Transparent and being enhanced to AI. Knowledge graph provided.
  • Wednesday 3:00 PM Central time has many participants and also from academia.
  • https://join.slack.com/t/spdx/shared_invite/zt-2fa9pqty9-AcobGadsN_TN1K~sSkUG4w