FIL Price Regimes, Hardware Cost Inflation, and Price-Aware Commitment Multipliers #1231
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If the multiplier becomes higher for everyone (assuming everyone will top up the initial pledge), the the absolute number of FIL earned remains the same. Because your QAP goes up, but the same hold for the QAP of everyone else (ie, if you hade 10% of the network, giving 10% of blok reward, the same is it still true after the multiplier increases) . So, I think this does not resolve your valid concern about "restore capital intensity and long-term incentives". |
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I think a simpler way to state my intent is this: Today, the amount of economic value that can be associated with a given unit of What I’m proposing is to allow SPs to voluntarily increase pledge on a per-sector In other words:
This does not change total block rewards, nor does it uniformly affect all QAP. The goal is not redistribution, but to restore a path for higher-value, |
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Thanks for kicking this off, @kernelogic, I like this framing of the issue and how we're thinking about incentives. If you decide to take this from “exploration” to a concrete proposal, the Filecoin Foundation Governance team is happy to help with FIP drafting. Concretely, we can support by:
Happy to connect and discuss further. |
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Thanks for the thoughtful responses — they help surface the right dimensions of the problem. To clarify my intent: I’m less focused on advocating for a specific mechanism at this point, and more on highlighting a structural mismatch that seems increasingly relevant today. The real-world economic value of pledge has eroded significantly relative to the cost and risk of operating long-term storage infrastructure. Block rewards per epoch remain fixed, but:
As a result, pledge today appears to be a weaker signal of long-term commitment and security than it was historically, even though the underlying infrastructure requirements have not become cheaper or less risky. This concern is somewhat adjacent to the motivation behind FIP-0036, which also explored strengthening long-term commitment and security by adjusting how power and rewards relate to duration and quality. One difference here is that the axis being examined is explicit capital at risk (pledge value) rather than only sector duration or deal structure. I don’t see these as mutually exclusive, but as different ways to address a similar underlying goal. Whether the right response is:
the core question I’m trying to surface is:
Any concrete proposal would clearly need to be evaluated carefully under security, centralization, and onboarding dynamics. For now, I’m hoping this discussion helps frame the problem clearly enough to explore those options. |
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@kernelogic just following up on this to see if you would like to keep this exploratory for the moment, or would like assistance into crafting this into more a of FIP proposal, just let me know, I'm happy to assist |
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Thanks for the encouragement and the offer to help from the FF Governance team — I appreciate that. If the discussion here converges on a clearer direction, I’d definitely be interested in working with the team to turn this into a more concrete FIP draft. Regarding Patrick's concern that “the problem is not really clear”, let me try to restate it more precisely. The issue I’m trying to highlight is that the economic value of pledge relative to real-world operating costs has changed significantly over time. Storage providers operate infrastructure whose costs are largely denominated in real-world terms (hardware, power, bandwidth, labor). Pledge, however, is denominated in FIL. When FIL price was much higher, pledge represented a substantial amount of economic value and therefore a strong signal of long-term commitment and security. Today, that same pledge represents much less real economic value relative to the cost of maintaining the infrastructure. So the question I’m trying to explore is not primarily about increasing rewards or shifting risk to FIL. Instead it is:
This could potentially take many forms, and the thread has already surfaced several possibilities (sector-level upgrades, aggregate limits, staking pools, etc.). I’m not attached to a specific mechanism yet. On the concern that increasing pledge flexibility historically reduced raw power: that’s a very important trade-off to evaluate. There is likely a balance point between maximizing raw bytes and ensuring those bytes are backed by sufficient economic commitment. Finally, regarding price-aware mechanisms: the earlier mention of price regimes was only one possible direction for discussion. Any design that introduces strong oracle dependencies would clearly need careful consideration. The broader question is whether there are protocol-native ways to maintain meaningful capital commitment without relying heavily on external signals. For now my goal is simply to make sure the problem is well-defined before jumping into specific mechanisms. |
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Summary
This discussion aims to explore whether Filecoin’s current economic parameters
(block rewards, pledge, and penalties), which are denominated in FIL units,
remain well-aligned with today’s FIL price regimes and the real-world cost of
operating long-term storage infrastructure.
This is not a concrete proposal yet, but an attempt to frame a structural
question around incentive alignment, capital commitment, and network security.
Current Context
remain elevated relative to 2020–2021 levels
As a practical illustration:
For operators maintaining hundreds of PiB of always-on infrastructure, this
appears increasingly disconnected from capital intensity and operational risk.
Why This Is a Protocol-Level Question
The concern is not simply operator profitability.
The deeper question is whether the current economic regime:
low-commitment behavior
In earlier network phases (e.g. 2020–2021), higher effective pledge and stronger
capital lock created incentives for long-term alignment and infrastructure
investment. Today, lower effective capital commitment combined with low FIL
price risks pushing the network toward a low-commitment equilibrium.
Direction for Exploration: Price-Aware Commitment Multipliers
One possible direction for discussion is whether Filecoin should consider a
bounded, slow-moving multiplier that adjusts certain economic parameters based
on FIL price regimes, with the goal of preserving the real-world meaning of
capital commitment and long-term participation.
Conceptually, such a multiplier could apply symmetrically to:
Under this model:
in exchange for proportionally higher rewards and penalties
This approach aims to restore capital intensity and long-term incentives,
rather than increasing emissions without corresponding commitment.
What This Discussion Is Not
Rather, it is an exploration of whether incentive mechanisms should explicitly
account for price regimes to maintain consistent security and commitment.
Open Questions
across price regimes?
(e.g. opt-in sector classes)?
Closing
Feedback from protocol developers, researchers, storage providers, allocators,
and clients is welcome. If Filecoin’s goal is durable, multi-decade storage,
it may be worth revisiting how we incentivize deep, long-term commitment under
different market conditions.
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