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FDC3 for Web Browsers & Bridging Discussion group - 16th October 2025 #1686

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Group overview

Discussion group focused on FDC3 use in Web browsers and the Bridging of FDC3 Desktop Agents to allow interop to span across them (based on similar techniques to FDC3 comms in a Web browser).

Software support for both FDC3 in a Web Browser and Desktop Agent Bridging are provided in the FDC3 2.2 NPM module: https://www.npmjs.com/package/@finos/fdc3/v/2.2.0

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Meeting Date

Thursday 16th Oct 2025 - 10am (US eastern timezone EDT) / 3pm (London, BST)

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Agenda

Minutes

  • Review of action items from previous meeting

    • No outstanding action items from August; September’s meeting was skipped and its agenda rolled into this meeting.
    • Discussion on CommonJS builds was deferred for maintainers' meeting (@Roaders leading work, to be discussed with @kriswest and @julianna-ciq after OSFF).
    • Use cases for nested vs. flat app directory records for sub-apps revisited and deferred for future discussion.
  • Recently merged PRs

  • FDC3, MCP-UI, AG-UI, WebMCP, OpenAI Apps SDK & AI/UI intersection

    • @novavi summarised the issue: focus on the intersection between AI chat-based and traditional deterministic workflows.
    • Next steps: Topic to be discussed at the Use Cases Working Group meeting on 6 Nov; @novavi to coordinate with Vinay to publicise and organise agenda.
  • WCP1Hello request property mismatch

    • Issue identified where the documentation, implementation, and schema did not align on the intent resolver property name.
    • @julianna-ciq and @robmoffat confirmed the impact is on DA implementers, not consumers; change will be published in a minor release (likely 2.2.2).
    • Action agreed: Maintain a list of corrections for targeted backport/cherry-pick into a release branch; maintainers to coordinate on specifics.
  • Improve heartbeat argument handling in FDC3 for Web reference implementation demo

    • @kriswest described reference implementation issues: argument handling for heartbeat is inconsistent and disabling/enabling is unreliable.
    • Highlighted browser behaviour: background/frozen tabs may prevent message delivery, resulting in “zombie” apps.
    • Consensus: Add messaging to inform desktop agents about app state changes (hidden/frozen) via getAgent; leave DA behaviour implementation-specific for now, but monitor for interoperability issues.
    • Agreed to raise three issues:
      1. Messaging app state changes
      2. Handling reconnection after state changes.
      3. Impact of DA (desktop agent) itself being hidden/frozen.
  • Contributions sought to resolve issues

  • FDC3 Terminology Changes

    • Discussion on proposal FDC3 Terminology Changes #1657 to simplify and clarify FDC3 terminology for app developers.
    • @kriswest summarised maintainer consensus: Large-scale renaming is seen as too disruptive for limited value, but improving documentation (especially Getting Started and homepage content) is prioritised.
    • Broad agreement to:
      • Focus on clarifying introductory and API documentation.
      • Consider alternative expansions for "FDC3" that are less finance-specific; @paulgoldsmith to share ChatGPT suggestions.
      • Recognise benefits and drawbacks of finance-specific branding.
      • Seek contributors for content updates and ideas.
  • Support for Multiple Application Scopes (Agents) within a Single Window Process

    • Not discussed due to time constraints.
    • Brief check-in: Interest remains, especially from @paulgoldsmith and @Roaders; @novavi noted real-world relevance may fluctuate—will revisit when there is further momentum or contribution.

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