Is there a desire to systematize the basic "Feelings" Mojis?

[SwarmShepherd]

Without "props", and colors, I think even the most expressive person is hard put to make more than about 20 unique "faces", see this series:

There is a concept of "Mood Map" using just 2 axis and I have had some limited success with mapping the 40 child recognition feelings to this map, Colors are automatically found using this technique:

We are a group of 7 people with various backgrounds from Bliss Language expertise, to Graphics Arts, to teaching, and many years of combined programming and now game-engine experience.

Before we begin to introduce OpenMoji images to our audience we will be doing considerable work toward "systematizing" and because our software is an ILE we should be able to experiment / do studies to determine, for example, if GIF files such as Facebook is using are effective with children as we expect they may be.

There are easily over 270 words dedicated to Feelings in the English Language. I have tried a 2 axis system, and a Mood Map method with only limited success for the 38 or so expressions I consider somewhat basic (can easily add >20 more?):

Now I have spent hours matching a basic set of 16 + the 40 also used above to a "Feelings Circle":

Trying to map an expression to all the Feelings does not seem necessary or desirable :)

However, using COLORS to reflect the "Family" and other visual cues seems highly desirable.

Note: Went to share this with a friend on Facebook and up came a set of Gif Emojis that really did seem to add critical recognition as things can be done such as nodding the head up and down, or from side to side, and rate could indicate degree of emphasis. As said previously I am looking for a strong visual separation between the Bliss Symbols (of which there are > 4,000) and some set of OpenMoji style vector paths to fill in certain weak spots, especially toward children.

[SwarmShepherd]

This is how Bliss Symbolics handles many of the same Feelings. Note that it is possible to distinguish between the FEELING of confusion and "Mental Confusion" which seems to me to be a useful distinction impossible to express with facial expressions alone....

Here's the entire set as mapped to the same wheel as I have been doing with various Moji's

One thought is to use the Wheel for our Selection Purposes, after using a few times it starts making more and more sense.

Another idea is to use coordinates into a Color Wheel with transitioning colors so that the location of the Feeling in the wheel can perhaps be recognized (more) than otherwise.

[SwarmShepherd]

An old "buzzword" for how these can relate is "Mood Map", and another (rather amazingly popular/new?) related buzzword is: "Zones_of_Regulation" which seems to be about teaching children to recognize their Moods. This is not the primary use of the OpenMoji symbols for sure, but there is an interesting overlap.

Also for our future purposes, I have found a set of Facial Expressions Combined with Body Language which I think help with base RECOGNITION with some additional Discernment. I refer to these:

For out purposes, and due to our preferred aspect ratio we are seriously thinking of making the face somewhat more conventional for the expression, and cutting off the Body below the waist fitting into our full language context more like the following lower right:

(We are working with a Montessori School in Accra, Ghana - we are using Montessori Language Analysis Signals of Shape and Color, and there will be a very VISUAL 2d "Active Window" which I'd love to chat about sometime in the future. There are some 20,000 Montessori Schools worldwide.)

[SwarmShepherd]

Perhaps I should be using some other Channel to communicate, converse on visions? We have tested now only down to age 7 with some good luck, my great hope so shape the project that we can teach to pre Natural LANGuage children. This is a very special age where learning can be rapid and easy. We are mapping to Multiple NatLANGS then at the phonetic level with such as Stories. Our very first story, for example, had great emphasis on "Arrogance" for which there is no Bliss Word - so some system of Emoji's will be necessary for us to make this Traditional Language Teaching PATH work. Then we are also looking to teach some basic Programming such as Changing "Actor" (worm, bird, cat, fox... :) ) Properties for: canJump?, canFly... we are based on a Game Platform, so perhaps you can see how this is going to work?

[carlinmack]

Perhaps I should be using some other Channel to communicate, converse on visions?

This is the correct channel to raise this, however I think that this is outside the scope of this project. Your contributions in your issues are high quality and interesting, but it's difficult to see actionable steps we can take. I think the aim of the BLISS system (a universal language) is quite different to that of OpenMoji (a useful set of icons to add to written text).

This is how I see it, @b-g correct me if I am mistaken

[SwarmShepherd]

I have been categorizing the Bliss Symbols more or less full time for the last 3 weeks, and I am privileged to be in discussions with the Swedish individual responsible for the amazing Xelify.se site (where you can search by shapes in the 6,000 strong Character set that is Bliss...

As we are looking to classify all symbols into one or more of the approaching 100 Groupings this has been a bit of a task :)

ONE GROUPING is the EMOTIONS (feelings) and I keep asking myself "if somebody asked 'how are you feeling'" would I answer this with XXX.

Now I am also attempting to deal with BRAVE & COWARDLY among many others. There is no particular look I can think of for "Cowardly" - perhaps body language.

Bliss just handles these seemingly COMPLETELY and Courageously and is charges right into things with an amazingly short list of Symbol Characters (sub symbols). Two that show up again and again are the symbols for MIND and for FEELING -

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🏝 OpenMoji is on hold over summer (project maintainers are out of office until Oct 2021).

[SwarmShepherd]

At this point, I have cataloged over 50 Emotions such as this amazing (ah-ha) symbol:

[github-actions]

🏝 OpenMoji is on hold over summer (project maintainers are out of office until Oct 2021).

[SwarmShepherd]

[github-actions]

🏝 OpenMoji is on hold over summer (project maintainers are out of office until Oct 2021).

[SwarmShepherd]

I was originally thinking when posting here that "if not emotions then when to use Emoji" to extend Bliss for Children, but now I am not so sure who has what to learn from whom. I cannot think such refinement can be expressed with faces, or even with body language...

[github-actions]

🏝 OpenMoji is on hold over summer (project maintainers are out of office until Oct 2021).

[SwarmShepherd]

We are moving ahead some on our ideas to Systematize things... found a large body of work around "Zones of Regulation" which assigns 4 Feelings to each of 4 Zones. The Zones are from Blue( low energy) to Red for danger. Using these colors is free for us, so this decision is easy!

Of all things, Bliss is a system of 6,000 Symbols but, such as the mix of "Feelings" is not well or consistently constructed. Not surprising?! :)

Here's my current block out where I use some props like Glasses, and try to use Body Language in an abbreviated, but systematic way, plus, of course, Eyes and Mouth.

[github-actions]

🏝 OpenMoji is on hold over summer (project maintainers are out of office until Oct 2021).