Missing string data for PW3 - Firmware 25.2.7

[johncuthbertuk]

Problem
No string voltage/current data shown - which appears to have occurred after a firmware update. I’m fairly sure on the previous firmware, all the string data was available. Unsure if newer versions of the firmware restore the data.

Even using NetZero, it doesn’t show any string data.

To Reproduce
N/A

Screenshots
If applicable, add screenshots to help explain your problem.

System Details

• Powerwall Installation: PW3
• Powerwall Firmware Version: 25.2.7
• Host System Hardware and OS: Ubuntu
• Other Specifics

Additional context
Powerwall Dashboard Installation: TEDAPI

[jasonacox]

Take a look at the raw PVAC_PVCurrent_A sections in http://localhost:8675/tedapi/status (during solar production) to see if you can find any non-zero data (I have PW2 and is late for me so near zero):

Also check http://localhost8675/tedapi/components ( for PW3 )

[johncuthbertuk]

Thanks @jasonacox I've just managed to get around to try and check the outputs from those endpoints - then realised it'll have to wait until tomorrow when it's actually daylight. Otherwise it currently shows:

"PVAC_Logging": {
"PVAC_PVCurrent_A": 0,
"PVAC_PVCurrent_B": 0,
"PVAC_PVCurrent_C": 0,
"PVAC_PVCurrent_D": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_A": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_B": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_C": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_D": 0,
"PVAC_VL1Ground": 0,
"PVAC_VL2Ground": 0,
"isMIA": true
},
"PVAC_Status": {
"PVAC_Fout": 0,
"PVAC_Pout": 0,
"PVAC_State": "PVAC_Init",
"PVAC_Vout": 0,
"isMIA": true
},
"alerts": {
"active": [],
"isComplete": false,
"isMIA": true
},

[jasonacox]

Yes, these all show inactive.

[johncuthbertuk]

Looks like the data is now (only?) within components and not within status based on the outputs below. But I guess on the plus side - at least it's still available as I was worried it had stopped being exposed. Does PW2 offer up components or is it a PW3 only endpoint?

Output: http://localhost:8675/tedapi/status

"PVAC": [
{
"PVAC_InfoMsg": {
"PVAC_appGitHash": [
0,
0,
0,
0,
0,
0,
0
]
},
"PVAC_Logging": {
"PVAC_PVCurrent_A": 0,
"PVAC_PVCurrent_B": 0,
"PVAC_PVCurrent_C": 0,
"PVAC_PVCurrent_D": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_A": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_B": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_C": 0,
"PVAC_PVMeasuredVoltage_D": 0,
"PVAC_VL1Ground": 0,
"PVAC_VL2Ground": 0,
"isMIA": true
},
"PVAC_Status": {
"PVAC_Fout": 0,
"PVAC_Pout": 0,
"PVAC_State": "PVAC_Init",
"PVAC_Vout": 0,
"isMIA": true
},
"alerts": {
"active": [],
"isComplete": false,
"isMIA": true
},

Output: http://localhost:8675/tedapi/components

{
"components": {
"baggr": [•],
"bms": [•],
"hvp": [•],
"pch": [
{
"activeAlerts": [],
"signals": [
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_State",
"textValue": "Pch_Active",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvState_A",
"textValue": "Pv_Active",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvState_B",
"textValue": "Pv_Active_Parallel",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvState_C",
"textValue": "Pv_Active",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvState_D",
"textValue": "Pv_Active_Parallel",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvState_E",
"textValue": "Pv_Active",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvState_F",
"textValue": "Pv_Active_Parallel",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_AcFrequency",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 50.03
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_AcVoltageAB",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 243.8
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_AcVoltageAN",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 121.80000000000001
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_AcVoltageBN",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 122
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_packagePartNumber_1_7",
"textValue": "xxx",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:04+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_packagePartNumber_8_14",
"textValue": "xxx",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:05+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_packagePartNumber_15_20",
"textValue": "000000000000",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:06+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_packageSerialNumber_1_7",
"textValue": "xxx",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:07+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_packageSerialNumber_8_14",
"textValue": "xxx",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:08+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvVoltageA",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 442
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvVoltageB",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 440
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvVoltageC",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 0
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvVoltageD",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 0
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvVoltageE",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 0
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvVoltageF",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 0
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvCurrentA",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 0.5499999999999997
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvCurrentB",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 0.6499999999999997
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvCurrentC",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": -3.608224830031759e-16
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvCurrentD",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 0.04999999999999964
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvCurrentE",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": -0.050000000000000364
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_PvCurrentF",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": -3.608224830031759e-16
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_BatteryPower",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": -290
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_AcRealPowerAB",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 120
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_SlowPvPowerSum",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 549
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_AcMode",
"textValue": "AcMode_GridFollowing",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_AcFrequency",
"textValue": null,
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": 50.03
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_DcdcState_A",
"textValue": "Dcdc_Active",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_DcdcState_B",
"textValue": "Dcdc_Active",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:10+01:00",
"value": null
},
{
"boolValue": null,
"name": "PCH_appGitHash",
"textValue": "xxx",
"timestamp": "2025-04-18T07:58:01+01:00",
"value": null
}
]
}
],
"pws": [•]
},
"pw3Can": {
"firmwareUpdate": {
"isUpdating": false,
"progress": null
}
}
}

[jasonacox]

Yes, the string data for PW3 is in /tedapi/components where for PW2 it is in /tedapi/status.

The pypowerwall code should be separating that for you. I wonder what happened in your case. Can you check http://localhost:8675/help to see if pw3 is set to true?

[johncuthbertuk]

Good shout to check what mode is set, can confirm pw3 is set to True (see below).

udmode False
fleetapi False
tedapi True
pw3 True
tedapi_mode full

Also, http://localhost:8675/strings just returns {}

It was working before the firmware update - does pypowerwall use anything else to determine where to collate the data?

[jasonacox]

A few ideas - can you try restarting and rebuilding?

docker stop pypowerwall
docker rm pypowerwall
./compose-dash.sh up -d
docker logs pypowerwall -f

I would like to see the logs especially if there are errors. There is some chance that would fix it (which may indicate another issue in the library). But here is the python path if it doesn't:

# Install local pypowerwal lib
python -m venv .venv
source .venv/bin/activate
pip install pypowerwall
python -m pypowerwall get

python

And run these python commands (interactive):

import pypowerwall

# Your connection info
PW_GW_PWD="XXXXXXXXX"
PW_HOST="192.168.91.1"
pw = pypowerwall.Powerwall(PW_HOST, gw_pwd=PW_GW_PWD)

# Test
print(f"mode: {pw.mode} - tedapi: {pw.tedapi_mode}")
pw.tedapi.get_din()
pw.tedapi.get_firmware_version()

# Strings
pw.strings()

# Now with debug
pypowerwall.set_debug()
pw.strings()

[johncuthbertuk]

pypowerwall - rebuild with errors

Output

docker stop pypowerwall
docker rm pypowerwall
./compose-dash.sh up -d
docker logs pypowerwall -f
pypowerwall
pypowerwall
Running Docker Compose...
[+] Running 5/5
 ✔ Container pypowerwall  Started                                                                                                                                                            0.1s 
 ✔ Container influxdb     Running                                                                                                                                                            0.0s 
 ✔ Container grafana      Running                                                                                                                                                            0.0s 
 ✔ Container weather411   Running                                                                                                                                                            0.0s 
 ✔ Container telegraf     Running                                                                                                                                                            0.0s 
04/19/2025 07:22:41 PM [proxy] [INFO] pyPowerwall [0.12.9] Proxy Server [t71] - HTTP Port 8675
04/19/2025 07:22:41 PM [proxy] [INFO] pyPowerwall Proxy Started
04/19/2025 07:22:42 PM [proxy] [INFO] pyPowerwall Proxy Server - Local Mode
04/19/2025 07:22:42 PM [proxy] [INFO] Connected to Energy Gateway 192.168.91.1 (My Home)
04/19/2025 07:22:42 PM [proxy] [INFO] TEDAPI Mode Enabled for Device Vitals (full)
----------------------------------------
Exception occurred during processing of request from ('172.18.0.4', 53972)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 534, in _make_request
    response = conn.getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 516, in getresponse
    httplib_response = super().getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 1375, in getresponse
    response.begin()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 318, in begin
    version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 279, in _read_status
    line = str(self.fp.readline(_MAXLINE + 1), "iso-8859-1")
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socket.py", line 717, in readinto
    return self._sock.recv_into(b)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1307, in recv_into
    return self.read(nbytes, buffer)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1163, in read
    return self._sslobj.read(len, buffer)
TimeoutError: The read operation timed out

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 667, in send
    resp = conn.urlopen(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 841, in urlopen
    retries = retries.increment(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 474, in increment
    raise reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/util.py", line 39, in reraise
    raise value
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 787, in urlopen
    response = self._make_request(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 536, in _make_request
    self._raise_timeout(err=e, url=url, timeout_value=read_timeout)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 367, in _raise_timeout
    raise ReadTimeoutError(
urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 683, in process_request_thread
    self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 360, in finish_request
    self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 747, in __init__
    self.handle()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 433, in handle
    self.handle_one_request()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 421, in handle_one_request
    method()
  File "/app/server.py", line 473, in do_GET
    alerts = pw.alerts()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 585, in alerts
    devices: dict = self.vitals() or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 379, in vitals
    output = self.client.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/pypowerwall_tedapi.py", line 562, in vitals
    return self.tedapi.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 1415, in vitals
    pw3_data = self.get_pw3_vitals(force) or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 693, in get_pw3_vitals
    r = requests.post(url, auth=('Tesla_Energy_Device', self.gw_pwd), verify=False,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 115, in post
    return request("post", url, data=data, json=json, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 59, in request
    return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 589, in request
    resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 703, in send
    r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 713, in send
    raise ReadTimeout(e, request=request)
requests.exceptions.ReadTimeout: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)
----------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
Exception occurred during processing of request from ('172.18.0.4', 49592)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 534, in _make_request
    response = conn.getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 516, in getresponse
    httplib_response = super().getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 1375, in getresponse
    response.begin()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 318, in begin
    version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 279, in _read_status
    line = str(self.fp.readline(_MAXLINE + 1), "iso-8859-1")
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socket.py", line 717, in readinto
    return self._sock.recv_into(b)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1307, in recv_into
    return self.read(nbytes, buffer)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1163, in read
    return self._sslobj.read(len, buffer)
TimeoutError: The read operation timed out

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 667, in send
    resp = conn.urlopen(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 841, in urlopen
    retries = retries.increment(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 474, in increment
    raise reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/util.py", line 39, in reraise
    raise value
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 787, in urlopen
    response = self._make_request(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 536, in _make_request
    self._raise_timeout(err=e, url=url, timeout_value=read_timeout)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 367, in _raise_timeout
    raise ReadTimeoutError(
urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 683, in process_request_thread
    self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 360, in finish_request
    self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 747, in __init__
    self.handle()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 433, in handle
    self.handle_one_request()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 421, in handle_one_request
    method()
  File "/app/server.py", line 473, in do_GET
    alerts = pw.alerts()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 585, in alerts
    devices: dict = self.vitals() or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 379, in vitals
    output = self.client.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/pypowerwall_tedapi.py", line 562, in vitals
    return self.tedapi.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 1415, in vitals
    pw3_data = self.get_pw3_vitals(force) or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 693, in get_pw3_vitals
    r = requests.post(url, auth=('Tesla_Energy_Device', self.gw_pwd), verify=False,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 115, in post
    return request("post", url, data=data, json=json, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 59, in request
    return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 589, in request
    resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 703, in send
    r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 713, in send
    raise ReadTimeout(e, request=request)
requests.exceptions.ReadTimeout: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)
----------------------------------------
04/19/2025 07:23:01 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching controller data: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa241d5d0>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
----------------------------------------
Exception occurred during processing of request from ('172.18.0.4', 49734)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 683, in process_request_thread
    self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 360, in finish_request
    self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 747, in __init__
    self.handle()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 433, in handle
    self.handle_one_request()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 421, in handle_one_request
    method()
  File "/app/server.py", line 726, in do_GET
    for i, (_, value) in enumerate(sorted(pw.tedapi.get_fan_speeds().items())):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 962, in get_fan_speeds
    return self.extract_fan_speeds(self.get_device_controller(force=force))
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 944, in extract_fan_speeds
    for component in data.get("components", {}).get("msa", []):
AttributeError: 'NoneType' object has no attribute 'get'
----------------------------------------
04/19/2025 07:23:01 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching config: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa241e500>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:01 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching status: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2395750>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:06 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching controller data: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2394250>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:06 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi.pypowerwall_tedapi] [WARNING] This API [get_api_solar_powerwall] is using mock data in tedapi mode. This message will be printed only once at the warning level.
04/19/2025 07:23:06 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching config: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f2170>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:06 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching status: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f0c10>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:11 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching controller data: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f0220>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:11 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching config: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2396ec0>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:11 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching status: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa268c130>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:16 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching controller data: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2394f40>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:16 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching config: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f2cb0>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:17 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching status: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f3610>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:21 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching controller data: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2396fe0>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:21 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching config: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2395300>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:23 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching status: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f21a0>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:26 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching config: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2394f70>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:26 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching controller data: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f2d10>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:28 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching status: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2395fc0>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:31 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching config: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa23f3d60>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:31 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching controller data: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2397490>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
04/19/2025 07:23:33 PM [pypowerwall.tedapi] [ERROR] Error fetching status: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Max retries exceeded with url: /tedapi/v1 (Caused by ConnectTimeoutError(<urllib3.connection.HTTPSConnection object at 0xffffa2397580>, 'Connection to 192.168.91.1 timed out. (connect timeout=5)'))
----------------------------------------
Exception occurred during processing of request from ('172.18.0.4', 55852)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 534, in _make_request
    response = conn.getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 516, in getresponse
    httplib_response = super().getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 1375, in getresponse
    response.begin()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 318, in begin
    version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 279, in _read_status
    line = str(self.fp.readline(_MAXLINE + 1), "iso-8859-1")
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socket.py", line 717, in readinto
    return self._sock.recv_into(b)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1307, in recv_into
    return self.read(nbytes, buffer)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1163, in read
    return self._sslobj.read(len, buffer)
TimeoutError: The read operation timed out

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 667, in send
    resp = conn.urlopen(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 841, in urlopen
    retries = retries.increment(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 474, in increment
    raise reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/util.py", line 39, in reraise
    raise value
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 787, in urlopen
    response = self._make_request(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 536, in _make_request
    self._raise_timeout(err=e, url=url, timeout_value=read_timeout)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 367, in _raise_timeout
    raise ReadTimeoutError(
urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 683, in process_request_thread
    self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 360, in finish_request
    self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 747, in __init__
    self.handle()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 433, in handle
    self.handle_one_request()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 421, in handle_one_request
    method()
  File "/app/server.py", line 564, in do_GET
    vitals = pw.vitals() or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 379, in vitals
    output = self.client.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/pypowerwall_tedapi.py", line 562, in vitals
    return self.tedapi.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 1415, in vitals
    pw3_data = self.get_pw3_vitals(force) or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 693, in get_pw3_vitals
    r = requests.post(url, auth=('Tesla_Energy_Device', self.gw_pwd), verify=False,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 115, in post
    return request("post", url, data=data, json=json, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 59, in request
    return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 589, in request
    resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 703, in send
    r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 713, in send
    raise ReadTimeout(e, request=request)
requests.exceptions.ReadTimeout: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)
----------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
Exception occurred during processing of request from ('172.18.0.4', 51020)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 534, in _make_request
    response = conn.getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 516, in getresponse
    httplib_response = super().getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 1375, in getresponse
    response.begin()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 318, in begin
    version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 279, in _read_status
    line = str(self.fp.readline(_MAXLINE + 1), "iso-8859-1")
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socket.py", line 717, in readinto
    return self._sock.recv_into(b)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1307, in recv_into
    return self.read(nbytes, buffer)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1163, in read
    return self._sslobj.read(len, buffer)
TimeoutError: The read operation timed out

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 667, in send
    resp = conn.urlopen(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 841, in urlopen
    retries = retries.increment(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 474, in increment
    raise reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/util.py", line 39, in reraise
    raise value
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 787, in urlopen
    response = self._make_request(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 536, in _make_request
    self._raise_timeout(err=e, url=url, timeout_value=read_timeout)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 367, in _raise_timeout
    raise ReadTimeoutError(
urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 683, in process_request_thread
    self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 360, in finish_request
    self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 747, in __init__
    self.handle()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 433, in handle
    self.handle_one_request()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 421, in handle_one_request
    method()
  File "/app/server.py", line 501, in do_GET
    vitals = pw.vitals() or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 379, in vitals
    output = self.client.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/pypowerwall_tedapi.py", line 562, in vitals
    return self.tedapi.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 1415, in vitals
    pw3_data = self.get_pw3_vitals(force) or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 693, in get_pw3_vitals
    r = requests.post(url, auth=('Tesla_Energy_Device', self.gw_pwd), verify=False,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 115, in post
    return request("post", url, data=data, json=json, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 59, in request
    return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 589, in request
    resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 703, in send
    r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 713, in send
    raise ReadTimeout(e, request=request)
requests.exceptions.ReadTimeout: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)
----------------------------------------
----------------------------------------
Exception occurred during processing of request from ('172.18.0.4', 51050)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 534, in _make_request
    response = conn.getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connection.py", line 516, in getresponse
    httplib_response = super().getresponse()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 1375, in getresponse
    response.begin()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 318, in begin
    version, status, reason = self._read_status()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/client.py", line 279, in _read_status
    line = str(self.fp.readline(_MAXLINE + 1), "iso-8859-1")
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socket.py", line 717, in readinto
    return self._sock.recv_into(b)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1307, in recv_into
    return self.read(nbytes, buffer)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/ssl.py", line 1163, in read
    return self._sslobj.read(len, buffer)
TimeoutError: The read operation timed out

The above exception was the direct cause of the following exception:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 667, in send
    resp = conn.urlopen(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 841, in urlopen
    retries = retries.increment(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/retry.py", line 474, in increment
    raise reraise(type(error), error, _stacktrace)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/util/util.py", line 39, in reraise
    raise value
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 787, in urlopen
    response = self._make_request(
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 536, in _make_request
    self._raise_timeout(err=e, url=url, timeout_value=read_timeout)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/urllib3/connectionpool.py", line 367, in _raise_timeout
    raise ReadTimeoutError(
urllib3.exceptions.ReadTimeoutError: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)

During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 683, in process_request_thread
    self.finish_request(request, client_address)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 360, in finish_request
    self.RequestHandlerClass(request, client_address, self)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/socketserver.py", line 747, in __init__
    self.handle()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 433, in handle
    self.handle_one_request()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/http/server.py", line 421, in handle_one_request
    method()
  File "/app/server.py", line 461, in do_GET
    temps = pw.temps()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 567, in temps
    devices: dict = self.vitals() or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/__init__.py", line 379, in vitals
    output = self.client.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/pypowerwall_tedapi.py", line 562, in vitals
    return self.tedapi.vitals()
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 1415, in vitals
    pw3_data = self.get_pw3_vitals(force) or {}
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/pypowerwall/tedapi/__init__.py", line 693, in get_pw3_vitals
    r = requests.post(url, auth=('Tesla_Energy_Device', self.gw_pwd), verify=False,
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 115, in post
    return request("post", url, data=data, json=json, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/api.py", line 59, in request
    return session.request(method=method, url=url, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 589, in request
    resp = self.send(prep, **send_kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/sessions.py", line 703, in send
    r = adapter.send(request, **kwargs)
  File "/usr/local/lib/python3.10/site-packages/requests/adapters.py", line 713, in send
    raise ReadTimeout(e, request=request)
requests.exceptions.ReadTimeout: HTTPSConnectionPool(host='192.168.91.1', port=443): Read timed out. (read timeout=5)
----------------------------------------

I'll give the other commands a run shortly as I'll need to tweak them a little bit as running on Mac OS. Hopefully the output from the above helps as does include some unexpected errors.

[johncuthbertuk]

Looks like it's getting a 502 response code when trying to access via the device URL. Although it does get all the data in the Get PW3 Components from Powerwall request. If you need any more of the information I've truncated just let me know - trying to balance verbose logs, relevant data and redacting sensitive information.

>>> pw.strings()
DEBUG:Get Configuration from Powerwall
DEBUG:Starting new HTTPS connection (1): 192.168.91.1:443
DEBUG:https://192.168.91.1:443 "POST /tedapi/v1 HTTP/1.1" 200 1271
DEBUG:Response Code: 200
DEBUG:Configuration: {'vin':
...
DEBUG:Get controller data from Powerwall
DEBUG:Starting new HTTPS connection (1): 192.168.91.1:443
DEBUG:https://192.168.91.1:443 "POST /tedapi/v1 HTTP/1.1" 200 None
DEBUG:Response Code: 200
DEBUG:Payload: {"components":{"msa":
...
DEBUG:Get PW3 Components from Powerwall
DEBUG:Starting new HTTPS connection (1): 192.168.91.1:443
DEBUG:https://192.168.91.1:443 "POST /tedapi/v1 HTTP/1.1" 200 1298
DEBUG:Response Code: 200
DEBUG:Payload (len=9811): {"components":{"baggr":
...
DEBUG:Using Cached Payload
DEBUG:Starting new HTTPS connection (1): 192.168.91.1:443
DEBUG:https://192.168.91.1:443 "POST /tedapi/device/<redacted>/v1 HTTP/1.1" 502 0
DEBUG:Error fetching components: 502

[jasonacox]

Very puzzling! It is like the /tedapi/devices/ path is disabled.

Can you try this, just to ensure the /status and /config paths still work fully?

python -m pypowerwall.tedapi       

[JohnJ9ml]

I am also a PW3 on 25.2.7. I had a quick peek:

</html>jjames@crewchief:pyproxy$ curl http://pidock:8675/tedapi/devices/ {"error": "Use /tedapi/config, /tedapi/status, /tedapi/components, /tedapi/battery, /tedapi/controller"}jjames@crewchief:pyproxy$ jjames@crewchief:pyproxy$ curl http://pidock:8675/tedapi/devices {"error": "Use /tedapi/config, /tedapi/status, /tedapi/components, /tedapi/battery, /tedapi/controller"}

[jasonacox]

Hi @JohnJ9ml - those are not valid URLs. You can try: curl http://pidock:8675/tedapi/components

Also, do you get a response for: curl http://pidock:8675/strings

[JohnJ9ml]

I'm sorry - I saw your note about it seeming as though the /tedapi/devices/ endpoint was disabled, tried it out, and saw that it actually returned a payload, not just an error. I was just passing that along.

My installation is not having a problem getting the string data.

[johncuthbertuk]

Very puzzling! It is like the /tedapi/devices/ path is disabled.

Can you try this, just to ensure the /status and /config paths still work fully?

python -m pypowerwall.tedapi

That worked without any errors and output Configuration and Power Data plus two files which are both populated.

- Configuration and Status saved to config.json and status.json

Thanks @JohnJ9ml for trying to help out and puzzling that your device is fine with the same firmware.

I'm wondering if there's a way to reboot the PW - maybe its got itself into a weird state? Although the bit which puzzles me is the data is being returned but seems to be the /tedapi/device/<redacted>/v1 call which causes the wobble to occur but couldn't quite trace it through the codebase on where that comes in for scraping data?