Support for PHP 8.4

[driehle]

Currently, support for PHP 8.4 cannot be added since laminas-db does not provide support for PHP 8.4.

The Laminas TSC made the decision to set laminas-db to security-only, but a few people have forked the repo and are working on a version 3.0, which is not released yet (php-db/phpdb#22).

Would you be willing to release a new major version 3.0 dropping support for laminas-db? Effectively this would me to remove BjyAuthorize\Provider\Identity\LmcUserLaminasDb and BjyAuthorize\Provider\Role\LaminasDb together with its factories.

I am not sure how many people use this module in combination with laminas-db, but if one does, switching to LmcRbacMvc, which provides similar features might make more sense anyways.

I can provide a PR dropping support for laminas-db, if acceptable.

[lon9man]

@driehle hello, i spoke with froschdesign here: laminas/laminas-db#318 (comment)
and it seems laminas-db potentially can be upgraded for PHP 8.4, when Microsoft-issue will be resolved.. discussions there are very fresh with alive hope that issue will be fixed

[tyrsson]

Please consider that not all adapters will be released at the same time for PhpDb. We are focused on MySQL, Postgres and SQLite in the initial release(s). We are splitting the various adapters into their own packages so that we do not face the same issues as this one in the future. We are getting pretty close to release for the mentioned adapters.

At some point the LMCommons packages may get support for PhpDb as well. I've spoken to Visto about it while back but not 100% sure what his intentions are currently.

Another important note is that PhpDb will not be supporting Laminas-Mvc since it will depend on SMv4 and there are no plans that I am aware of to port support for SMv4 to MVC since it is being set security-only.

If you have questions, you can always reach us in our discord. There is a join link in the php-db org page.

[lon9man]

@driehle, my head is broken after reading of the latest posts here and on laminas-blog also :).

facts:

1. BjyAuthorize potentially will remove laminas-db dependency
2. BjyAuthorize will (or not?) use PhpDb
   BUT
   laminas-mvc is abandoned and PhpDb will not support it
   AND
   BjyAuthorize depends on laminas-mvc (LmcRbacMvc also).
3. Laminas moves to mezzio or dotkernel

so questions:

1. what is the roadmap for BjyAuthorize?
2. will BjyAuthorize be migrated to some framework-agnostic version (without abandoned laminas-packages) to use it inside Mezzio?

thanks!

[driehle]

@lon9man I left a comment here, on why laminas-db will likely not receive a PHP 8.4 updated soon and why it needs to be removed from BjyAuthorize.

While laminas-mvc is retiring, see https://getlaminas.org/blog/2025-06-06-laminas-mvc-is-retiring.html, lamians-mvc still supports PHP 8.4 well and, if I understood it correctly, will like support PHP 8.5. So as for now, I do not see any reason to drop laminas-mvc here, as this package is tightly coupled to laminas-mvc.

From my point of view it makes sense to simply remove laminas-db and make a new major version release (BC break). People should really not be using laminas-db anymore, Doctrine is the much better alternative.

[tyrsson]

Just as an update. PhpDb will support laminas-servicemanager v3 and v4. Preliminary changes have already been tested and implemented but not merged into all of the adapters.

[kokspflanze]

hey guys, sry didnt get your messages.

i allow php84 in the master branch, about laminas-db looks like i will remove it.

or was there any change in last weeks?

[lon9man]

@kokspflanze it seems things are moving

microsoft/msphpsql#1523 (comment)

laminas/laminas-db#312 (comment)