Current kernel sources for Lenovo P11 (TB-J606F, TB-J606L)

[maciek134]

Hello,

The kernel sources you (Lenovo) have posted in your support portal (https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht511330-lenovo-open-source-portal) for the P11 tablet are outdated (kernel version in the archive: 4.19.95, kernel version on device: 4.19.157, the device won't boot with the kernel from the archive).

This seems to be the most appropriate way of contacting you about this, since support already told me to "factory reset my device or send it for repairs" when I tried to ask about this using the form on your website (I couldn't find any e-mail addresses on said website as well).

[konradybcio]

Hi, please update the open source code drop for the Tab P11 (J606F) to match the latest software. The latest one available is from early 2021:

Today's July 10th 2022, that means it has not been updated in over a year.

Failing to publish the source code is a clear GPL violation, which means you are selling stolen software (Linux kernel and Qualcomm's GPL2 components) and refusing to fix it. I wrote a tweet 3 months ago, which led me to a series of messages with your customer support.

This is truly unacceptable. You can't just say "oh it will be available eventually". No. You should have published it at the same time as you pushed the OTA update. Or at least within an acceptable timeframe - if it took you less than 30 days, nobody would have complained.

Please fix this, I am truly disappointed both as a developer and a customer.

[adazem009]

Hi, please update the open source code drop for the Tab P11 (J606F) to match the latest software. The latest one available is from early 2021:

Today's July 10th 2022, that means it has not been updated in over a year.

Failing to publish the source code is a clear GPL violation, which means you are selling stolen software (Linux kernel and Qualcomm's GPL2 components) and refusing to fix it. I wrote a tweet 3 months ago, which led me to a series of messages with your customer support.

This is truly unacceptable. You can't just say "oh it will be available eventually". No. You should have published it at the same time as you pushed the OTA update. Or at least within an acceptable timeframe - if it took you less than 30 days, nobody would have complained.

Please fix this, I am truly disappointed both as a developer and a customer.

Hi, take a look at my fork of your repository - lineage-18.1-experimental branch at https://github.com/adazem009/kernel_lenovo_bengal. I tried to merge it with CAF tag LA.UM.9.15.1.r1-07100-KAMORTA.0, which Lenovo probably used in the latest release (in July 2022). It seems to boot, but all I can get in Android is a black screen and a kernel panic after some time. Maybe I could have made mistakes when I was fixing the merge conflicts.

[adazem009]

I have some screenshots of my conversation with Lenovo support. I really think we need to contact someone else, because the support on Twitter doesn't have access to anything...

"we have submitted your feedback to the appropriate team"
I don't believe they even did this...

And when I asked again after a few weeks...

"Apologies, we don't have any source code to provide."
Well, you're obligated to provide it according to GPLv2...

[thefat32]

We could try contact https://gpl-violations.org/ if Lenovo does not respond to our requests

[adazem009]

Hi, please update the open source code drop for the Tab P11 (J606F) to match the latest software. The latest one available is from early 2021:

Today's July 10th 2022, that means it has not been updated in over a year.
Failing to publish the source code is a clear GPL violation, which means you are selling stolen software (Linux kernel and Qualcomm's GPL2 components) and refusing to fix it. I wrote a tweet 3 months ago, which led me to a series of messages with your customer support.
This is truly unacceptable. You can't just say "oh it will be available eventually". No. You should have published it at the same time as you pushed the OTA update. Or at least within an acceptable timeframe - if it took you less than 30 days, nobody would have complained.
Please fix this, I am truly disappointed both as a developer and a customer.

Hi, take a look at my fork of your repository - lineage-18.1-experimental branch at https://github.com/adazem009/kernel_lenovo_bengal. I tried to merge it with CAF tag LA.UM.9.15.1.r1-07100-KAMORTA.0, which Lenovo probably used in the latest release (in July 2022). It seems to boot, but all I can get in Android is a black screen and a kernel panic after some time. Maybe I could have made mistakes when I was fixing the merge conflicts.

Can you dump the kernel logs so I can try to help?

Maybe, but I have to enable pstore first, because it panics immediately when I boot it.

[maciek134]

Can you stop hijacking this issue with barely-related discussion? While your attempts to recreate a working kernel are interesting, it shouldn't be needed - Lenovo should have released the sources and this is what the issue is about.

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[maciek134]

There was no anger in my message and I have no idea where I have not "talked properly". I just asked you to stop the discussion that doesn't bring anything to the topic (Lenovo releasing kernel sources), because excessive off-topic can be a reason for closing the issue.

If you think a personal jab is an appropriate response, maybe take a step back and re-read the Community Guidelines.

[zhsloe]

This issue is still relevant as Lenovo didn't do a damn thing to release updated sources.

[LynxLyon1]

Has anyone updated to android 12 using this file from lenovo's website?

11/07/2022

Open Source Code for Lenovo Tab P11 Plus (Lenovo TB-J616F)

https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/ht511330-lenovo-open-source-portal

[maciek134]

@LynxLyon1 this issue is about J606, that's a completely different device for which Lenovo still hasn't uploaded updated kernel sources.

[zhsloe]

@LynxLyon1 this issue is about J606, that's a completely different device for which Lenovo still hasn't uploaded updated kernel sources.

J616F also hasn't got sources for the actual update... but it's not as bad as with the J606, so much is true.
I tried to contact Lenovo support on Twitter and haven't got any answer yet. May be sueing Lenovo or contacting organisations like https://gpl-violations.org/ is actually the only way to go? They really don't seem to care about GPL terms and about their tech savvy customers as well...

[maciek134]

https://gpl-violations.org/ might actually be the only way to go at this point, they just don't care until an actual lawsuit happens

[zhsloe]

https://gpl-violations.org/ might actually be the only way to go at this point, they just don't care until an actual lawsuit happens

I wrote them an email to them two weeks ago and still haven't got any answer... maybe when more ppl write to them about it it'll get their attention?

[maciek134]

No, if you sent the email to the correct address (license-violation@gpl-violations.org) then more people writing will just give them more work. We already made the mistake of publicly shaming Lenovo about this, I wasn't aware of the violation FAQ there.

[zhsloe]

No, if you sent the email to the correct address (license-violation@gpl-violations.org) then more people writing will just give them more work. We already made the mistake of publicly shaming Lenovo about this, I wasn't aware of the violation FAQ there.

Why do you think public shaming was a mistake? I think it is still too little shaming, the f*ckers should know their place and be aware that GPL violation is something that the Internet is never going to forgive you.