[Board]: reconsideration of the chatter 2.0

[rimwulf]

SOC

ESP32

Lora IC

DL-CC68-S-868

Product Link

https://www.samsclub.com/p/circuitmess-chatter-stem-project-build-and-code-walkie-talkies/PL980418145

Description

Requesting reconsideration of Chatter 2.0 support as product is still being produced.

Confirmed product is in-fact open source with hardware, schematics, and code. I included photos of mine board for reference and in contact with CircuitMess to see if original PCB files can be obtained.

Latest interest I've found was less than 30 days ago so produce cannot be EOL.

Refrence:
#2707 (comment)

Original code
https://github.com/CircuitMess/Chatter2-Firmware

Fork interest
https://github.com/bestander/Chatter2-Firmware-for-Chatter1

Hardware
LoRa module DL-CC68-S-868

ESP-WROOM-32

Hardware schematics:

Reference photos.

If permitted this will be updated with know info I just ask for consideration and not closing this issue

[code8buster]

It looks like you have everything you need to port meshtastic to it and make a pull request. PRs are generally accepted.

The link you provided states that they're no longer available, as does CircuitMess' own website. Their only mention of what might be available is a projection; to be shipped with their subscription boxes in 2025.

I don't think any devs are volunteering to secondhand-purchase and support what likely is a deprecated device. Unqualified statements like "Latest interest I've found was less than 30 days ago so produce cannot be EOL." do not function as proof that a device is not EOL.
They sold just over 17k units to Sams Club a year ago, and there's no indication that they will sell more:
https://hr.linkedin.com/posts/dorotearudec_so-stoked-about-our-biggest-collaboration-activity-6996443037845344256-aqs0

Edit: whoops, didn't mean to close the issue

[sheehanisageek]

I have over 20 of these chatter 2 units and would love to see a meshtastic port for them.

[rimwulf]

Yeah.

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[code8buster]

Yeah.
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Do either of you have any interest in creating the variant.h files and testing? You could use the DIY variant as a jumping off point.

[rimwulf]

I do! But I'm not sure yet I'm trying to learn to code. I know someone who might as well But I don't want to over promise or overstate my abilities.

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[code8buster]

I found that they actually still sell some variant of this device on etsy. Any idea if this is the same hardware, or old stock of an earlier revision?
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1357363727/circuitmess-chatter-diy-lora

[fang64]

I just acquired one of these, I'll look at porting it, these are pretty interesting. @rimwulf @code8buster

[fang64]

So I'm running into an issue, it seems I can't find a RESET pin attached for LLCC68, there is a Enable PIN that comes from the USB port but that doesn't appear to be attached to the ESP. Is that absolutely required for the LLCC68?

[caveman99]

The reset pin is connected to 3v3 that's perfectly ok. Have a look at the picomputer S3 definition, it's wired up in a similar way.

#define LORA_RESET RADIOLIB_NC

[rimwulf]

I found that they actually still sell some variant of this device on etsy. Any idea if this is the same hardware, or old stock of an earlier revision? https://www.etsy.com/listing/1357363727/circuitmess-chatter-diy-lora

Oh sorry haven't been getting updates.
No that's the original Chatter awa Chatter 1.0 though it has much of the same hardware but that is in fact overpriced legacy. The chatter 2.0 has a few changes and it costs less than $30 US from eBay. Bought mine from Walmart but the seller decided to raise the price after selling 10 of these kits.

Someone did make code that allowed the original to talk to the 2.0 I didn't find it relevant but I can share it if it helps.

Spoke to the company they hinted that they are planning on making another run so we can't have the PCB files.

[garthvh]

Seems unlikely that the Walmart version is more capable, what are the hardware differences?