chinese quotes treated as a single word

[extoplasm]

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Current Behavior

when typing in chinese, entire quote is treated as one word -> whenever space is pressed the test finishes, also every quote is in the short category.

Expected Behavior

could count every character excluding punctuation as a word

Steps To Reproduce

1. change language to chinese simplified
2. go to quotes
3. press space
4. test finished

Environment

• OS: Windows 10
• Browser: Google Chrome
• Browser Version: Version 124.0.6367.119 (Official Build) (64-bit)

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[faq0]

If that can be fixed, I believe the spaces in the "words" section should be typed automatically too, as a sentence in Simplified Chinese does not include spaces.
e.g.: In "只有 出现 革命 存在 发生 方法…", users should not need to hit the spacebar before entering the next word.

[extoplasm]

i reckon you keep the words the same, it’s good to separate the words

but just count every character in a sentence as a word in the quotes section

[Miodec]

The characters used are full-width commas, and as @faq0 said, simplified chinese does not include spaces, so im not sure what should be done here.

[faq0]

I believe there are some commonly used full-width punctuation marks in simplified Chinese, which can be set as an exception in the quote mode.
e.g.: Some of these include "，。！？“”：；《》—", have the unicode \uff0c\u3002\uff01\uff1f\u201c\u201d\uff1a\uff1b\u300a\u300b\u2014.

But for the zen or custom modes, they might need other rules as the punctuation marks are not limited to these characters.

However, I have noticed that, in fact, many Chinese typing practice websites do actually count symbols as a character, being calculated towards the WPM. That might be an easy way for that.

[extoplasm]

the punctuation isn't an issue, there isn't much punctuation in the quotes anyways, i reckon you can count every character as a word and parse out the full width punctuation or change it into its english equivalent when counting the words although this would be rough to implement.

it's really up to you, but as a quasi-mandarin speaker this is just my suggestion.

[Miodec]

So, whats the solution? Because if you want to add spaces you would need to edit the quotes themselves.

[extoplasm]

wdym, i’m saying we count each character as a word, as mandarin doesn’t follow the rule that each word is separated by spaces. eg. “猴子打字” (monkey type lol) counted as 4 separate words

[extoplasm]

also if we add spaces it wouldn’t be accurate, not sure how the word counting works but a special case can be added to split the characters differently (removing the punctuation before of course)

[Miodec]

So, this should be the case for all chinese text, not just quotes right.

Is this because you need multiple keypresses per character? Maybe we can count each keypress as a character, instead of each character as a word.

[faq0]

So, this should be the case for all chinese text, not just quotes right.

Yes.

Maybe we can count each keypress as a character, instead of each character as a word.

This would be good in most cases, but I believe that could be the way to calculate the speed, not the accuracy.
In fact, there are mutliple typing methods in Simplified Chinese that might result in different number of keystrokes.

e.g.: For an example quote "我能吞下玻璃而不伤身体",
In Full Pinyin, it would be "wonengtunxiabolierbushangshenti" (31 chars).
In Double Pinyin, it would be "wongtpxwboliorbuuhufti" (2 keys/word, total 22 chars).
For Wubi, that would be 4 keys/word, total 44 chars. But in this case, there is lower amount of time needed to select the desired Chinese characted in the candidate window.

[extoplasm]

yes i agree with faq0 on the speed calculation part but the main issue is that in the quotes the entire sentence is counted as one word, i’m suggesting that we split the quote by character instead of by space as when someone presses space the test ends and the progress is inaccurate

[Miodec]

yes i agree with faq0 on the speed calculation part but the main issue is that in the quotes the entire sentence is counted as one word, i’m suggesting that we split the quote by character instead of by space as when someone presses space the test ends and the progress is inaccurate

If you split by character then the website will require you to press space between every chracter. When you type quotes normally, when do you press space? (not on monkeytype).

[extoplasm]

in chinese there is no such thing as a space lol
if its like that then there might not be an easy solution
perhaps make a special case??? because im like 50% sure its the same for any asian language, this could be good if adding quotes for other languages