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| 1 | +************ |
| 2 | +Nov 15, 2023 |
| 3 | +************ |
| 4 | + |
| 5 | +* Attendees |
| 6 | + |
| 7 | + - Andy Terrel, Irfan Alibay, Nabil Freij |
| 8 | + |
| 9 | +* Observing |
| 10 | + |
| 11 | + - Nicole Foster, Arliss Collins |
| 12 | + |
| 13 | +* Apologies |
| 14 | + |
| 15 | + - Katrina Riehl, Matt Moore, Mridul Seth |
| 16 | + |
| 17 | +Notes |
| 18 | +===== |
| 19 | + |
| 20 | +Approval of last month's minutes |
| 21 | +-------------------------------- |
| 22 | + |
| 23 | +Pending Actions: |
| 24 | + |
| 25 | +Andy Terrel and Matt Moore to go through infrastructure inventory |
| 26 | +E-vote on the new charter with Katrina and Mridul |
| 27 | +Approved unanimously |
| 28 | + |
| 29 | +New Charter |
| 30 | +----------- |
| 31 | + |
| 32 | +https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hzaB_DAGAUdKnfI_x0ktcO6Zf1iP1Er1BtWrpo35LNM/edit |
| 33 | +Still need to talk to Katrina and Mridul |
| 34 | + |
| 35 | +Docs Deploy |
| 36 | +----------- |
| 37 | + |
| 38 | +https://github.com/numfocus/infrastructure/pull/18/ |
| 39 | +Merge approved so we can render |
| 40 | + |
| 41 | +To do |
| 42 | + |
| 43 | +- Need to get a NF deploy key |
| 44 | +- Folks should review rendered version: https://numfocus.github.io/infrastructure/ (PR needs to be merged for the render to update, right now it's blank) |
| 45 | + |
| 46 | +Project Infrastructure Involvement |
| 47 | +---------------------------------- |
| 48 | + |
| 49 | +How do projects fund infrastructure? |
| 50 | + |
| 51 | +MDAnalysis had an SDG rejection, for a funding requested access to paid CI resources (macos-arm64 runners and large core count runners). |
| 52 | +The response for the paid CI part of the grant was "SDG funds are not typically granted for ongoing expenses where projects will have to come back next year". |
| 53 | +This isn't the first time this has happened ( |
| 54 | +At the NF Project meeting many projects requested CI/CD resources (osx-arm64, gpus, window-arm) |
| 55 | +There is no guidance within NF as to what projects are meant to do about this - we're effectively left with a "not our problem" response without really being told whose problem it is. |
| 56 | +The SDG committee had clearly signposted this problem to us, that way we had a formal request from someone, rather than finding out through second hand feedback. |
| 57 | + |
| 58 | +Does on-going funds on-going infrastructure? |
| 59 | + |
| 60 | +No. We should recommend updates to the application process |
| 61 | +SDG should share infrastructure requests (summarized version) that were rejected. |
| 62 | + |
| 63 | +NF Infrastructure Budget |
| 64 | +------------------------- |
| 65 | + |
| 66 | +NF Infra should make a Budget Request to the Board of Directors |
| 67 | +We can campaign for funds from the general NF budget, project budgets, or raise specific funds for Infrastructure |
| 68 | +Get projects to use issues on the infra repo to document their needs. |
| 69 | +Advertise it to the projects. |
| 70 | +GPU CI/CD |
| 71 | +Pinged a lot from many projects |
| 72 | +Github Actions |
| 73 | +Private beta starting now for paid accounts but public beta in a few months. They need help justifying the use of Azure GPU machines for CI/CD purposes |
| 74 | + |
| 75 | +Recommend we write a letter on how impactful GPU Hosted Runners will be to our projects |
| 76 | +Use case |
| 77 | +Projects |
| 78 | +Scikit-learn - Arlliss has already talked to Adrin about providing this. |
| 79 | +Cupy |
| 80 | +dask |
| 81 | +Reach out to other organizations |
| 82 | +OpenMM & OMSF - @irfan |
| 83 | +Linux foundation? |
| 84 | +CSS? |
| 85 | +Impact to the community |
| 86 | +Quansight GPU Cluster |
| 87 | +Iterate on their terms of service |
| 88 | + |
| 89 | +Next meeting time: December 20th, 10:30 CT |
| 90 | + |
| 91 | +Action items |
| 92 | +============ |
| 93 | + |
| 94 | +- Get requests from SDG - Nicole Foster |
| 95 | +- Add template for infrastructure request - Andy Terrel |
| 96 | +- Reach out how to onboard our projects - Andy Terrel |
| 97 | +- Add infrastructure to agenda for project bimonthly meeting - Arliss Collins |
| 98 | +- Set up a mock budget for December submission |
| 99 | +- Nicole Foster to add existing ongoing costs |
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