Brew apparently requires a nonexistent xcode version?

[randomairborne]

When I run `brew upgrade, I repeatedly get ```Error: Your Xcode (14.0.1) is too outdated.
Please update to Xcode 14.1 (or delete it).
Xcode can be updated from the App Store.

Error: Your Command Line Tools (CLT) does not support macOS 13.
It is either outdated or was modified.
Please update your Command Line Tools (CLT) or delete it if no updates are available.
Update them from Software Update in System Preferences or run:
softwareupdate --all --install --force

If that doesn't show you any updates, run:
sudo rm -rf /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools
sudo xcode-select --install

Alternatively, manually download them from:
https://developer.apple.com/download/all/.
You should download the Command Line Tools for Xcode 14.1.```
This is... kind of silly, as I currently have xcode 14.0.1 which supports MacOS 13 just fine, and as of today 14.1 is still a release candidate. Is there a way to fix this?

[carlocab]

Please install the release candidate. Xcode 14.0.1 does not include the SDK for Ventura.

[romanr]

Since the only guaranteed way to make it work is to have pre-release XCode installed, shouldn't the message "Xcode can be updated from the App Store." be changed to "Register Apple Developer account and download XCode 14.1 beta" ?

[smenor]

Since the only guaranteed way to make it work is to have pre-release XCode installed, shouldn't the message "Xcode can be updated from the App Store." be changed to "Register Apple Developer account and download XCode 14.1 beta" ?

Totally agree with that ∧

I have a developer account and the β Xcode and still had to be told that I explicitly needed to get the prerelease command line tools and that they weren't the ones included in / accessible from the β Xcode and I'm sure I'm far from alone

[andrewcrook]

Since the only guaranteed way to make it work is to have pre-release XCode installed, shouldn't the message "Xcode can be updated from the App Store." be changed to "Register Apple Developer account and download XCode 14.1 beta" ?

You only need command line tools for Xcode which isn't on AppStore, however, brew could offer to install it.

[SMillerDev]

brew couldn't since it requires a developer account

[ZhongRuoyu]

XCode 14.1 is officially released.

[ksamc]

For those that only had the CLT installed, I did the following which worked.

1. Uninstall the existing CLT
   sudo rm -rf /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools

2. Download the Command Line Tools for Xcode 14.1 Release Candidate 2 (latest as of writing) from here: https://developer.apple.com/download/all/?q=Command%20Line%20Tools%20for%20Xcode

3. Install the downloaded package

4. brew upgrade

[andrewcrook]

Worked out fine, so that's why I claim that I am up and running... Am I missing something?

@KenniJH

No not at all just working out what's going on and how things are developing since MacOS 13s release. My thinking was if the command tools are officially out via xcode-select --install then so is the full Xcode IDE and tools on App Store soon which I also use. Thanks

[nwhitmont]

Direct Link: https://download.developer.apple.com/Developer_Tools/Command_Line_Tools_for_Xcode_14.1_Release_Candidate_2/Command_Line_Tools_for_Xcode_14.1_Release_Candidate_2.dmg

[jtarchie]

You cannot access this link unless you are in the Apple Developer program. ^^^

[andrewcrook]

You cannot access this link unless you are in the Apple Developer program.

@jtarchie I download it from the website. I have a developer account (using Apple ID) anyone can sign up free, however, I am not signed up to the Apple Developer program which you pay yearly.

[nwhitmont]

You cannot access this link unless you are in the Apple Developer program. ^^^

I"m not a member of the developer program and I just copied the actual link from the Apple site after logging in with my regular AppleID.

You do need to be logged in to developer.apple.com though at the time you use the link. I'm guessing you weren't logged in to developer.apple.com when you tried it.

The real key to solving this scenario is running brew config to verify your Command Line Tools version. For example I installed the full XCode 14.1 but it didn't get my Command Line Tools to the desired version, which was confusing. Running brew config showed me I still had the CLT 14.0.0.0.xxxx version, and installing the Command_Line_Tools_for_Xcode_14.1_Release_Candidate_2.dmg is what really solved the problem.

When the brew doctor tells you:

A newer Command Line Tools release is available
...
You should download the Command Line Tools for Xcode 14.1

This is actually slightly misleading as deleting CLT files and running xcode-select --install won't solve your problem, since the actual version you need is the Release Candidate (RC2) which won't be installed by the install command or the software update CLI command.

[andrewcrook]

Yeah you have to use the RC 2. Xcode 14.1 hasn’t been officially release and , therefore , not on App Store either.
Ideally brew should have stuck with the current version of Xcode until 14.1 is on the App Store and command line tools on xcode-select --install

[Bo98]

Ideally brew should have stuck with the current version of Xcode until 14.1 is on the App Store and command line tools on xcode-select --install

We have for earlier macOS versions. For macOS 13, Xcode versions earlier than 14.1 do not contain the macOS 13 SDK.

[andrewcrook]

I am sure I can mostly run apps complied using the macOS12 SDK without having to recompile to macOS 13 SDK?
A lot of apps haven't been updated.
I think it is feature dependent.
But yes this is Apple fault for not having consistent release dates.

[carlocab]

Note that software that Apple ships on Ventura (at least Safari, and everything in /bin) are built with the Ventura SDK, so it's definitely a good idea to follow Apple's lead here, even if it requires use of an RC.

[jasonmp85]

Welp, guess this is the thing to finally get me off the MAS version. Truly bizarre move by Apple (why not hold the release, or even just slap 14.1 on the RC and call it good?)

Maybe I missed something in the terminal output of brew, but I feel like having to figure this out may be duplicative for people not specifically developing apps for Apple hardware already…

[jaroslavas]

After reading all the posts I still get the same problem. Is there anything I can do?

xcodebuild -version:

Xcode 14.1
Build version 14B47b

But brew doctor still gives me:

...
A newer Command Line Tools release is available
...
You should download the Command Line Tools for Xcode 14.1

And I still can't install some software: brew install twittemb/formulae/Xcodecoverageconverter

...
Error: Your Command Line Tools (CLT) does not support macOS 13.
...

[carlocab]

@jaroslavas: What is the output of brew config?

[jaroslavas]

brew config
HOMEBREW_VERSION: 3.6.7
ORIGIN: https://github.com/Homebrew/brew
HEAD: 6a7eac25e167a1eb2d49e13c8cc530a3188af995
Last commit: 4 days ago
Core tap ORIGIN: https://github.com/Homebrew/homebrew-core
Core tap HEAD: e22841dbb48f3edc69740dc0d594db6552e2d95e
Core tap last commit: 4 hours ago
Core tap branch: master
HOMEBREW_PREFIX: /usr/local
HOMEBREW_CASK_OPTS: []
HOMEBREW_MAKE_JOBS: 12
Homebrew Ruby: 2.6.10 => /System/Library/Frameworks/Ruby.framework/Versions/2.6/usr/bin/ruby
CPU: dodeca-core 64-bit kabylake
Clang: 14.0.0 build 1400
Git: 2.37.1 => /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr/bin/git
Curl: 7.84.0 => /usr/bin/curl
macOS: 13.0-x86_64
CLT: 14.0.0.0.1.1661618636
Xcode: 14.1

[carlocab]

Same issue as @smenor, do #3822 (reply in thread)

[Jay-Plumb]

A Solution that worked for me:

Initial warning: Warning: Your Xcode (14.0.1) is too outdated. Please update to Xcode 14.1 (or delete it). Xcode can be updated from the App Store.

1. brew install robotsandpencils/made/xcodes (here is the github page for more info: https://github.com/RobotsAndPencils/xcodes)
2. xcodes install '14.1 Release Candidate 2 (14B47b)'
3. brew doctor

No warnings

[Jay-Plumb]

@bjeanes Try xcodes list and then reference another version of 14.1

[Jay-Plumb]

@romanr yeah I agree. I have always felt that the need to install xcode when updating brew was a bit strange so the ability to switch to different versions it a game changer

[andrewcrook]

Brew only requires the command line tools for Xcode witch are interdependent from the main Xcode package.
As far as I know xcodes doesn’t switch versions of the command line tools only the visual environment.

sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode-14.1.0-Release.Candidate.2.app/Contents/Developer

If you have installed command line tools correctly it should be

sudo xcode-select  --install 
^^^ normally install like this, however, at moment you have to download the RC from developer.apple.com for free
sudo xcode-select -s /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools

[andrewcrook]

and once installed command line tools should keep its self updated automatically via macOS’s software update with OS and security updates (not the App Store)

[alsolonets]

In my case I was also required to run:

sudo rm -rf /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools

prior to running

sudo xcode-select -s /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools

[vikjam]

What are the consequences of Warning: Your Command Line Tools (CLT) does not support macOS 13.? It only seems to appear for me with brew doctor, but I seem to be able to brew install all that I need. What problems can arise with an outdated CLT install?

[SMillerDev]

If you install something (like python) that depends on the CLT and you have a different version it might not work.

[Bo98]

Xcode 14.1 is now released. It is identical to RC2 so if you installed that, you already have the final version.

[HermannGruber]

For those who used the following temporary workaround: https://github.com/orgs/Homebrew/discussions/3822#discussioncomment-3965318
After you've updated the official version of Xcode via the App Store, don't forget to switch back to the official version of Xcode:
sudo xcode-select --switch /Applications/Xcode.app
This will bring your Xcode app back onto track for future updates - security updates among other.

[iambudi]

Brew doctor says its Xcode that outdated not Command Line Tool.

Warning: Your Xcode (14.0.1) is too outdated.
Please update to Xcode 14.1 (or delete it).
Xcode can be updated from the App Store.

Looks like i have to download Xcode 14.1 with size is 7.05 GB just for the brew to be able to do package installation normally.

[Bo98]

You can delete the old Xcode if you don't need/want it. brew will be able to use the CLT only for most formulae (except Qt etc.)

brew to be able to do package installation normally

Installing bottles works. It's just building from source which, unsurprisingly, needs development tools and thus requires ones compatible with your version of macOS.

[iambudi]

I already replaced the old one with Xcode 14.1. Now the warning is gone.

[andrewcrook]

@iambudi

Brew doctor says its Xcode that outdated not Command Line Tool.
Looks like i have to download Xcode 14.1 with size is 7.05 GB just for the brew to be able to do package installation normally.

You don't have to install Xcode 14.01 you can install the command line tools for macOS 14.1 both work inderpendenty and contain all the command line components which brew uses.

if fact I was using just the RC command line tools until the full Xcode 14.1 was released officially on the App Store.

command line tools - required tools for brew

xcode-select --install
sudo xcode-select -s /Library/Developer/CommandLineTools

Note, the above is normally automatically updated via software update

Complete Xcode - Everything, the IDE, simulators, extensions etc etc

• install from App Store

sudo xcode-select -s /Applications/Xcode.app

Automatically updated by App Store

[pboese]

I'm having a similar issue when running brew upgrade or brew doctor

Error: Your Xcode (14.2 => /Volumes/Apps/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer) is too outdated.
Please update to Xcode 15.0 (or delete it).
Xcode can be updated from the App Store.

But Command Line Tools 15 are installed:

package-id: com.apple.pkg.CLTools_Executables
version: 15.0.0.0.1.1694021235
volume: /
location: /
install-time: 1702385733

[andrewcrook]

IIRC Homebrew now requires Xcode as well as Xcode command line tools

[Bo98]

Homebrew can operate without Xcode.app for most cases, but if it's present it must not be too old as it's difficult to stop things using it.

In your case you do have a too old Xcode.app that will not launch on your macOS.

[andrewcrook]

@Bo98 Thanks for verifying its been some time since I last had that error