What's the best method to update WinXP ?

[andika207]

I first try checking the ''legacy update box'' only.

I still prefer to use the WUMT (stupid user from ru-board) to download my updates

I first download everything except NET 1.1 - NET 3.5 - NET 4.0 / IE 8.0 / Search 4.0 / MP 11.0 / Live Essentials / Security Essentials / AMD CPU driver (not sure why this driver shows up)

once done I start with the NET framework updates procedure and I have realized that it doesn't matter whether installing them all at the same time or one by one. (1.1 + updates + restart >>> 3.5 + updates + restart >>> 4.0 + updates) because the number of updates brought out is exactly the same.

as you know there are 3 official offline installers (NET 3.5 and NET 3.5 SP1 and NET 4.0) I wonder if it's worth using them instead ?

there are some AIO Visual C+ repacks out there but I have decided to use the one avalable in this github repo because it seems to be the most complete for WinXP and surprisingly it didn't brought any optional update up to WUMT https://github.com/abbodi1406/vcredist/releases/tag/v0.35.0

I didn't play around with Office 2003 and its updates yet

[andika207]

AOMEI backupper saves me a lof of time because I can reinstall XP countless times and allows me to reset my testing within a few minutes

second part, this time I check both boxes ''legacy update'' and ''embedded 2009''

the number of updates displayed on the upper column (Windows XP) doesn't match anymore to the first method above

I wonder if this is due to the fact that the lower column updates (XP embbeded) do replace some of other XP updates

Question: do you people install upper and lower updates at the same time or do you install everything from the upper column in first place and leave the embedded updates for last ?

given the last update for NET framework was released on February 2014 and the first embedded update was released on May 2014 I thought it was not a good idea to install everything at the same time and we should respect that order

I am unable to install this one KB2686509 that is listed on the first column along with the other XP udaptes

Question: what happens with Internet Explorer 7.0 ? why is it displayed when using an alternate WSUS update method ?

Question: is it mandatory to install Internet Explorer 8.0 ? I am fine with IE 6 because I like the classic layout and don't actually use this browser for anything

Question: what happens with Media Player 10 ? it's the one I most like but it's never displayed on either update methods I have used so far

Question: the other update method brings NET 4.0 KB982670 + KB982671 however Legacy update misses the second one 982671.... the other update method brings M$ Silverlight KB2977218 however it misses NET framework 1.1

this is just a little example I have spotted at first glance because it would be a headache to check and compare every update one by one

now I am getting really confused and wonder if someone selected these updates by hand or what the best possible update method is ...

[AntonFromSweden]

the number of updates displayed on the upper column (Windows XP) doesn't match anymore to the first method above

I wonder if this is due to the fact that the lower column updates (XP embbeded) do replace some of other XP updates

Yes, probably, as I said here.

given the last update for NET framework was released on February 2014 and the first embedded update was released on May 2014 I thought it was not a good idea to install everything at the same time and we should respect that order

I agree; we should respect that order (but I'm not educated in computer engineering). Having installed .NET Framework 4, you can install .NET Framework 4.0.3 from here.

I am unable to install this one KB2686509 that is listed on the first column along with the other XP udaptes

Please see my answer here (you should first install the official Windows XP updates, then activate the "POSReady" option) or install it directly from here. Please note that the "normal" version of the update might not accept installing if "POSReady" is enabled. You may disable POSReady by denying "SYSTEM" reading access to the POSReady registry key using the built-in "regedit.exe". (Go to [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\WPA\PosReady], right-click on "Permission", click on "Advanced", select "SYSTEM", "Edit", and click the checkbox "Deny" for the option "Query Value". Lastly, click "OK" and "Yes".)

Question: what happens with Internet Explorer 7.0 ? why is it displayed when using an alternate WSUS update method ?

I don't know why, but here it is for others who may be searching for it. Since the download page is a new webpage that sometimes is not saved in the Wayback Machine, you probably have to look up the source of the first website (usually by pressing Ctrl+U or going to "Tools" and "Source") and find the URL containing "IE7-WindowsXP-x86-[part of language ID].exe". For other languages than English, you have to change "en-gb" in the URL, after having gone to the IE7 download website, to get it corresponding to your language. Here you have a list of language abbreviations to use in the URL (please note that most programs are not available in all of these languages).

Question: is it mandatory to install Internet Explorer 8.0 ? I am fine with IE 6 because I like the classic layout and don't actually use this browser for anything

Of course it's not mandatory, but there are newer features on a newer version of Internet Explorer. The last security update for Internet Explorer 6 (with "POSReady" activated) is from 12 January 2016, while the last one for IE8 is from 9 April 2019 (and the last one for IE7 is from 12 April 2016). The security updates take effect on the whole computer (more or less), even if you aren't using Internet Explorer, especially on older Windows versions such as Windows XP.

Question: what happens with Media Player 10 ? it's the one I most like but it's never displayed on either update methods I have used so far

This is because it has been replaced by Windows Media Player 11. But you can still get it from this archived Microsoft website: http://web.archive.org/web/20121025054607/http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=20426. Since it requires validation before downloading, which is no longer possible, you have to look up the source of the website (usually by pressing Ctrl+U) and find the URL containing "MP10Setup.exe". Here it is if you are using the English version of Windows XP. For other languages, you have to change "en-gb" in the URL above to get it corresponding to your language.

now I am getting really confused and wonder if someone selected these updates by hand or what the best possible update method is ...

As far as I know, LegacyUpdate gets access to the original Microsoft update servers for your (Windows 2000/XP/Vista and some more) computer. Shortly, it "resets" the connection to the update service, meaning that Microsoft's update service/server is offering you the updates. This means that any "complaints" about what updates are being offered should be directed to Microsoft, but since all these Windows versions have reached end-of-support, Microsoft doesn't take notice on such complaints anymore. (There might also be something wrong with LegacyUpdate itself, but – as far as I know – this should not affect what updates Microsoft offers you unless the error doesn't affect the Microsoft server's ability to correctly detect your computer.)

I would say that the best possible update method is using the built-in feature "Automatic Updates" (nowadays after having installed LegacyUpdate). When there are no more updates, check the LegacyUpdate website, install those that are present in there, and repeat the search (and the installations) until there are no more updates. Afterwards, use the Internet Archive Wayback Machine to find programs that have been depublished from the original websites, or even from the Windows Update/Microsoft Update/LegacyUpdate website, such as Microsoft Silverlight, Adobe Flash Player (big download since it contains the program for all type of computers), standalone version of Flash Player, Adobe Shockwave Player, Adobe Reader (use the following address: ftp://ftp.adobe.com/pub/adobe/reader/win/11.x/11.0.00/), Mozilla Firefox, Windows Live Essentials (all versions and languages), and a lot of more, but I'm not going to fill this thread with links that don't belong to the subject. (Maybe a new post?)

Question: […] however it misses NET framework 1.1

Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1 is available on the LegacyUpdate website (preferably when you have searched for updates) and here. As stated above, you have to change "en-gb" in the URL to your language (if it's not English) and you may have to retrieve the URL for the installation file (dotnetfx.exe) by pressing Ctrl+U or similar.

[sal-ammoniac]

This is because it has been replaced by Windows Media Player 11. But you can still get it from this archived Microsoft website: http://web.archive.org/web/20121025054607/http://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/download/details.aspx?id=20426. Since it requires validation before downloading, which is no longer possible, you have to look up the source of the website (usually by pressing Ctrl+U) and find the URL containing "MP10Setup.exe". Here it is if you are using the English version of Windows XP. For other languages, you have to change "en-gb" in the URL above to get it corresponding to your language.

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Media%20player%2010

[AntonFromSweden]

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=Media%20player%2010

Oh, does it still exist in the Microsoft Update Catalog? I didn't think of that possibility. Very well and easy!

[sal-ammoniac]

I first download everything except NET 1.1 - NET 3.5 - NET 4.0 / IE 8.0 / Search 4.0 / MP 11.0 / Live Essentials / Security Essentials / AMD CPU driver (not sure why this driver shows up)

AMD gives windows xp amdppm.sys in 2008

[sal-ammoniac]

I first download everything except NET 1.1 - NET 3.5 - NET 4.0 / IE 8.0 / Search 4.0 / MP 11.0 / Live Essentials / Security Essentials / AMD CPU driver (not sure why this driver shows up)

AMD gives windows xp amdppm.sys in 2008

which only had amdk6 amdk7 amdk8 driver before , otherwise it will use standard processor.sys

[andika207]

I don't know why, but here it is for others who may be searching for it.

thanks for taking your time to reply but I didn't ask you to search the links for me.
I just wanted to know if there's more than one active SUS server or if these updates are manually selected by different persons and not actually recommended by M$ because different update methods bring different updates

this method doesn't seem to work right now and its developer said it's a temporary issue only

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate]
"WUServer"="http://wsus.gimme.money:8530"
"WUStatusServer"="http://wsus.gimme.money:8530"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\WindowsUpdate\AU]
"UseWUServer"=dword:00000001

[andika207]

Of course it's not mandatory,
The last security update for Internet Explorer 6 (with "POSReady" activated) is from 12 January 2016, while the last one for IE8 is from 9 April 2019 (and the last one for IE7 is from 12 April 2016).
The security updates take effect on the whole computer

I had been told some years ago it's mandatory to install IE8 because it's more than just a web browser but let me take this with a grain of salt

just because the IE8 update is newer doesn't make it necessary for IE6
that update was released because you installed IE8 and created another ''hole'' that was not there before.
the Million dollar question is: would this IE8 update patch anything despite IE8 not being installed ?

[andika207]

I would say that the best possible update method is using the built-in feature "Automatic Updates" (nowadays after having installed LegacyUpdate).

the end result is pretty much the same whether using WUMT or Legacy Update with IE6

this is what I ran across on either of them (Embedded 2009 patch still disabled)

Media Format 9 KB2803821 fails to install
NET framework 3.0 KB928416 fails to install

right after a fresh XP install if one only installs security updates + critical updates and leave all other updates for the next round, this update KB971513 will disappear from the list for no apparent rewson

more, Legacy Update forces you to install this KB951847 or KB982670 update separately
I found it was unnecessary when using WUMT I have already mentioned this on my first post

[AntonFromSweden]

I don't know why, but here it is for others who may be searching for it.

thanks for taking your time to reply but I didn't ask you to search the links for me. [...]

Yes, I know, but I got a little excited. Furthermore, I said "for others who may be searching for it".

I had been told some years ago it's mandatory to install IE8 because it's more than just a web browser but let me take this with a grain of salt

Yes, it's more than a web browser since many other parts of the Windows XP system interact with it, for example the (file) Explorer, the Search companion or the Activation Wizard. There is a reason for IE8 being classified as an important update, but the (virtual) computer is still yours and you have the non-recommended ability to deny updates.

just because the IE8 update is newer doesn't make it necessary for IE6
that update was released because you installed IE8 and created another ''hole'' that was not there before.
the Million dollar question is: would this IE8 update patch anything despite IE8 not being installed ?

I don't know the answer to the "million dollar question", but I do know that it's not possible to install an update for IE8 without having installed IE8. Furthermore, we see on this Microsoft webpage, not to mention the Microsoft Update Catalog, that the same update is being used across many Internet Explorer versions and many Windows versions. Of course, there have to be individual copies for each version, as we see in the update catalogue, but we do still see the same KB number of the update and the same article for all these IE and Windows versions, meaning it's the same update for all of them.

This means that, for example, the April 2019 update for Internet Explorer 8 (with "POSReady" activated) may contain security fixes that would have been included for IE7 or IE6 if IE7 and IE6 still got updates.

What I want to say with this is the following: the "another 'hole' that was not there before" might exist in IE6 and IE7 and IE8, but the security updates do only fix it in IE8 after January 2016 (for IE6) and April 2016 (for IE7).

[AntonFromSweden]

I would say that the best possible update method is using the built-in feature "Automatic Updates" (nowadays after having installed LegacyUpdate).

the end result is pretty much the same whether using WUMT or Legacy Update with IE6

Good. That should be expected, I believe.

[…] NET framework 3.0 KB928416 fails to install

(Tagged for information: @kirb ) If you are using a non-English version of Windows XP, Legacy Update will offer you some language packs for Microsoft .NET Framework. The KB number of the language packs is the same as the KB number of the .NET Framework installation package, as seen in the update catalogue.

Regarding KB928416 as the language pack for .NET Framework 3.0, an installation error will occur if you try to follow the installation order given by Microsoft Update/Legacy Update and you, thereby, install KB951847 (more specific this version of KB951847), which contains .NET Framework 3.5 (with SP1) and some parts of .NET Framework 3.0 and 2.0 in the same update, and then install KB928416 which is not even shown unless you have installed KB951847.

Recently, I realized how to encounter the error code of the installation attempt of KB928416 in plain text (since I haven't found it on the internet): if you manually download the (by Legacy Update) offered language pack for .NET Framework 3.0 from Microsoft Update Catalog, and open the download link in your Windows XP browser, there will be a visible installation wizard telling you the error in plain text.

The error information will tell you that a higher version of .NET Framework (that is 3.5) has already been installed (by the combined installation package offered by Microsoft Update, nowadays Legacy Update, that is KB951847, which, as I said, contains .NET Framework 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 in the same package).

The only solution, as far as I know, is to download and install Microsoft .NET Framework one version at a time, followed by each language pack, respectively, before installing a newer version of .NET Framework, and not using the combined update.

[andika207]

@AntonFromSweden what's up with this update ? why does it go away ?
https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=971513

it's listed under the ''optional software updates'' tab
I start by downloading the high priority updates during the first round then restart the computer and focus on the next round which includes optional updates, 3rd round for NET framework's..etc
I don't know why this update dissapears from the list after the first restart

[AntonFromSweden]

@AntonFromSweden what's up with this update ? why does it go away ? https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com/Search.aspx?q=971513

it's listed under the ''optional software updates'' tab
I start by downloading the high priority updates during the first round then restart the computer and focus on the next round which includes optional updates, 3rd round for NET framework's..etc
I don't know why this update dissapears from the list after the first restart

Neither do I know why it disappears, but I can confirm the behaviour when using Windows XP with Service Pack 3 built-in (as a virtual machine) and with Windows XP Mode with the "POSReady" trick enabled as well as not enabled. (But I haven't evaluated the behaviour using, or beginning with, Windows XP with a lower Service Pack or without Service Pack (RTM).)

I have to say that I wasn't even aware of this update until now (I didn't think about it any further after you asked about it for the first time, because I wasn't aware of an immediate answer, so I left it to other contributors), since I, usually, do always use the feature "Automatic updates" (including restart) before having a look at the update list on the Legacy Update website.

Usually when an update disappears, that happens because another update supersedes it (when this another update is being installed before the one that disappears). Source: the information about how to restore hidden updates on the FAQ page of the old Microsoft Update website which still works. But the update catalogue doesn't mention any updates that would supersede KB971513 on Windows XP, which makes it strange that KB971513 disappears!

I think this disappearing behaviour is some kind of bug in the Microsoft update service, since there are some more strange things. For example, when listening to Legacy Update or the automatic update feature, you are prompted to install both Internet Explorer 8 and the last security update for Internet Explorer 6 at the same time. Since the order, in which the updates are being installed when not deselecting any of them, appears to be randomly chosen, the installation process sometimes install IE8 before the update for IE6, causing the IE6 update to fail. Therefore, I do always, nowadays, deselect IE8 until I have installed the IE6 update (with or without the "POSReady" registry setting. Generally, I do also install IE7 and its corresponding updates before installing IE8). This kind of behaviour is seen even nowadays on Windows 10 computers which have not been updated for a while, when trying to update them. Imagine that you (still) have Windows 10, version 1809, for example. If you let the computer search for updates, it may begin with installing the feature update to Windows 10, version 22H2 and after that, during the same installation process, before restarting, it may try to install the latest (cumulative) update for version 1809. (I have seen it myself!)

A third example of Windows Update/Microsoft Update (nowadays Legacy Update) going wrong is of course the one I mentioned in my last comment, with the update service offering the language pack for .NET Framework 3.0 after having installed the three-in-one combined update which includes .NET Framework 2.0, 3.0 and 3.5 in the same update, causing the language pack installation to fail because of a higher version than 3.0 already being installed (by the update service itself!).

I have to mention a fourth example! If you have the real Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 and install Legacy Update on it, it will not offer you Microsoft Security Essentials, even when you block the POSReady registry key, which (I believe) should make the update service think that the POSReady version is a "normal" Windows XP. At least, this makes the "End of support notification" update (KB2934207) for "normal" Windows XP available in POSReady. (After having installed Microsoft Security Essentials on "normal" Windows XP, you can retrieve the download link from C:\WINDOWS\WindowsUpdate.log and use it in POSReady to download and install MSE on POSReady.)

Very interesting, anyway, about this KB971513! As you may have noticed, it can be installed manually from Microsoft Update Catalog despite it having disappeared from the update list in Legacy Update. Now I have put this update on my own list of programs and updates to install on Windows XP, so thank you for making me observing this update!

[andika207]

I do always, nowadays, deselect IE8 until I have installed the IE6 update

what IE6 update are you talking about ? do you install POSready updates before IE8 ?

I have no problems with IE8 whether installing it during the first round or keep it for later on

IE8 updates (POSready-less) KB2510531, KB2632503, KB2598845

[AntonFromSweden]

I do always, nowadays, deselect IE8 until I have installed the IE6 update

what IE6 update are you talking about ?

I'm talking about KB2879017 (for IE6 on Windows XP) which is included in the first round of (security) updates, at least when using Windows XP with Service Pack 3 preinstalled.

do you install POSready updates before IE8 ?

Usually, yes, regarding the POSReady update for IE6. The other POSReady updates usually have to wait until I have installed IE7, the IE7 updates, and finally IE8 and its updates. After that, I install the remaining POSReady updates.

Please note what I have discovered, at least when installing in that order: somewhere during the update installation process, with POSReady activated, the MSI installer (C:\WINDOWS\system32\msiexec.exe, or maybe some of its support files (DLL files), which are used for each program whose installer is in .msi format and can be updated by installing KB942288) stops working, with KB942288 as well as without KB942288. One of the POSReady updates (KB4494528) is claimed to address some installation problems, which makes me installing this update last of all, but to me, the MSI installer still doesn't work. I have to follow some instructions found on answers.microsoft.com, according to which you have to write the following commands in the Command Prompt to get Windows Installer working again:

msiexec /unregister

msiexec /regserver

I have no problems with IE8 whether installing it during the first round or keep it for later on

IE8 remains working even if the said IE6 update (KB2879017) has been installed at the same time as IE8 was installed (as it has by Windows Update/Microsoft Update/Legacy Update if you didn't deselect IE8 during the first round), but if you or the feature "Automatic Updates" install/installs IE8 before KB2879017, the installation of KB2879017 will fail.

IE8 updates (POSready-less) KB2510531, KB2632503, KB2598845

When you look in the update history in Control Panel, where you have the list of the installed programs, you will see that there is also KB2909921, without you doing anything, which means that the IE8 installer silently installs it together with IE8 (at least I believe so, since the IE7 installer has the same behaviour).

Don't forget the updates that are released for "normal" Windows XP after the end of support (if you don't activate the POSReady trick):

KB2964358, released on 1 May 2014, for IE6, IE7 and IE8.

Thereto the other 10 updates for "normal" Windows XP, mentioned in this Microsoft article, among which there is an IE8 update, and KB4500331. The last one has to be installed manually regardless of the POSReady setting.

Finally, this link may be interesting. It makes it possible for Windows Vista or later to recognize Windows XP in the network map on Windows Vista or later, but I haven't tested it myself yet since I haven't found the .exe file in my language in the Wayback Machine.

[andika207]

This shows us what we already know: you should always set up your copies of Windows before they go out of support.

Yeah, I started this out by early 2020 (Legacy Update didn't exist yet) but health issues and stressing factors didn't allow me to get into this work up until now

I have also created and stored some ISO's with https://download.wsusoffline.net/ which doesn't seem to work anymore but I have never been satisfied with it because the WU MiniTool reported that some updates were missing and the developer couldn't fix it because he said that those listing updates were provided by M$

back to Legacy Update the first thing that started blowing my head was the fact a couple of updates failed to install but now they all install perfect (including Embedded ones) when I get started from a clean XP setup with no other programs, drivers or graphics card installed.

later on it was you who came up with links of some additional updates that I was not aware of and this got me into the confusion LOL.

I very much appreciate your support though.💚

[andika207]

This is the only way to really get all the updates and don't miss any of them.

I have found a good list here with 27000+ links I only need to checkup one by one. what a mess !!!!
https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/nt-5-x-windows-update-urls-dump-inc-custom-support-updates.83367/

well, this list is excellent because it contains all links to additional languages as the WU catalog has removed them all

[andika207]

When you have installed KB951847, or .NET Framework 3.5, you will still be offered the language pack for .NET Framework 3.0 which can't be installed because of the higher version already being installed, but it can be installed if .NET Framework 3.0 is the highest version installed.

when installing the NET 3.5 SP1 KB951847 (69MB) I get offered 3 additional language packs.

-NET 2.0 language pack KB829019 (1MB)
-NET 3.0 language pack KB928416 (11MB)
-NET 3.5 language pack KB951847 (32MB)

in theory no language pack has yet been installed because the NET 2.0 language pack can be installed with no issues however the NET 3.0 language pack fails to install.

as mentioned before I get to install the last one (32MB) and the two other vanish from the list

I have also discovered other weird things as far as the NET 3.5 SP1 goes

if I only install the high priority updates and discard the optional ones for the next round then the KB976569 - KB976570 will vanish from the list

this is exactly what happened to the KB971513

[AntonFromSweden]

Well, now I have investigated this a bit.
Most of them are superseded by newer ones when you use "Automatic Updates" or Legacy Update!

interesting enough, I didn't know these 5 updates from 2017 had been supersed afterwards I checked it over on the MU Catalog website and there is not sign of this info

-KB4012598 -KB4018271 (IE8) -KB4018466 -KB3197835 -KB4024402 -KB4019204

You are right when you talk about the updates for "normal" Windows XP, but if you click the POSReady version of the updates in the Microsoft Update Catalog, there will be superseding updates.

For example, "Security Update for Windows XP SP3 (KB4012598)" in the Microsoft Update Catalog will not have a newer update superseding it, but "Security Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4012598)" (which is the one that "normal" Windows XP will look for when you have enabled the POSReady trick!) does have a superseding update (KB4018466, which has been superseded by KB4486465, but, again, only when you look at the POSReady version of the update and this is what Windows XP does when you have enabled the POSReady trick).

Method 2: Check by %systemroot%\system32\drivers\srv.sys file version https://support.microsoft.com/en-au/topic/how-to-verify-that-ms17-010-is-installed-f55d3f13-7a9c-688c-260b-477d0ec9f2c8

when XP is not yet patchet the compilation number is 5.1.2600.5512

if I patch it with the WannaCry update then it turns into 5.1.2600.7208

I have just checked my fully updated testbed PC (no manual patches) and it's 5.1.2600.7651 and when patching it with either of them KB4012598 or KB4500331 the compilation number remains as is.

now I 'm getting confused and really wonder if these optional updates not supplied by Legacy Update are really necessary at all

If you do have the POSReady trick enabled, this is expected since POSReady offers newer updates that supersede KB4012598, as shown above.

The current file version of %systemroot%\system32\drivers\srv.sys should be 5.1.2600.7651 (created 11 January 2019) if you have enabled POSReady. Thus, everything is fine and there is nothing to worry about! KB4012598 is automatically included since KB4486465 has superseded KB4012598.

As we've pointed out earlier in this thread (compare this and this to see that all the post-EOL updates for "normal" Windows XP are available for POSReady), if you activate POSReady, only KB4500331 should be necessary to install manually, since all the other EOL updates for "normal" Windows XP are either included in POSReady or superseded by newer POSReady updates.

As shown in its support article, KB4500331 doesn't modify %systemroot%\system32\drivers\srv.sys. It modifies Termdd.sys. Therefore KB4500331 shouldn't result in a new file version for srv.sys.

Thus, everything is fine with the file versions if you have enabled the POSReady registry change!

I have mentioned above the file size (35MB) so it's the full version x86 only [of .NET Framework 4] https://support.microsoft.com/es-es/topic/la-herramienta-de-reparaci%C3%B3n-de-microsoft-net-framework-est%C3%A1-disponible-942a01e3-5b8b-7abb-c166-c34a2f4b612a

Oh, yes, I recognize it. Now I think I have found the reason for why KB2487367 and KB2736428 are not shown in Legacy Update! Have a look in their support articles! There it says, under the header "Download information": "This update is available for download from the Microsoft Download Center". If you look at most other updates, the first download alternative is "Automatic Updates". But not in this case, for some reason.

(Pero no entiendo qué quiere hacer Usted con "La herramienta de reparación de Microsoft .NET Framework". ¿Está investigando el problema de las actualizaciones invisibles? ¿Qué le dice la herramienta? "No se encontraron problemas", como siempre, ¿verdad? Pero no la he probado. ¿Funciona en Windows XP? La información del artículo soporto nos dice que la herramienta es de 2019 y que se necesita tener Windows 7 para usarlo.)

Oh, well, I'm not going to speak Spanish. (Since you offered the support article to me in Spanish, I dusted off my school Spanish and read the article in Spanish!) In short, I asked above what you tried to do with the repair tool and what error, if any, it told you.

as for the KB2964358 that's a ''manual update'' for IE6. if it's not available when POSReady trick is enabled I would guess it's been superseded by something else....

Yes, we've already talked about this (on 23 December 2023 in this thread), as you see below:

Well, I believe [KB2964358 is] included in KB4018271 for IE8 (and in KB3124275 for IE6, KB3148198 for IE7 and KB4493435 for IE8) since the Internet Explorer updates are cumulative […] meaning that you shouldn't need to install KB2964358 if you activate the POSReady trick.

This shows us what we already know: you should always set up your copies of Windows before they go out of support.

Yeah, I started this out by early 2020 (Legacy Update didn't exist yet) but health issues and stressing factors didn't allow me to get into this work up until now

I meant that this should have been done back in March 2014 to be done properly … but of course I'm not blaming you in any way. I started with this (in this kind of a more experimental way, including the use of Legacy Update) during summer 2023.

later on it was you who came up with links of some additional updates that I was not aware of and this got me into the confusion LOL.

**I very much appreciate your support though.**💚

No problems! I appreciate that someone gets use from my writing here and I hope that you endure my recurring lateness of answering you! (There are other things I have to do in life …)

As stated, all of these additional updates (except for KB4500331 which should always be installed manually) are only needed if you do not activate the POSReady trick. In fact, the extra updates for "normal" Windows XP were initially mentioned in the thread that is about non-POSReady copies of Windows XP.

This is the only way to really get all the updates and don't miss any of them.

I have found a good list here with 27000+ links I only need to checkup one by one. what a mess !!!! https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/nt-5-x-windows-update-urls-dump-inc-custom-support-updates.83367/

well, this list is excellent because it contains all links to additional languages as the WU catalog has removed them all

Oh, it seems (nearly) perfect when you combine it with the POSReady exclusive updates (such as KB4019276), but I can't see the list; I have to create an account first. Maybe it's worth it? Or is it the same list as "abbodi1406" has published here (where there are two lists)?

When I change the language of the web browser on my main computer (Microsoft Edge on Windows 10) to another language, and then visit the update catalogue, it will show the information of the updates and the download links in/for the new language, so the additional languages are still available that way.

when installing the NET 3.5 SP1 KB951847 (69MB) I get offered 3 additional language packs.

-NET 2.0 language pack KB829019 (1MB) -NET 3.0 language pack KB928416 (11MB) -NET 3.5 language pack KB951847 (32MB)

in theory no language pack has yet been installed because the NET 2.0 language pack can be installed with no issues however the NET 3.0 language pack fails to install.

as mentioned before I get to install the last one (32MB) and the two other vanish from the list

I have also discovered other weird things as far as the NET 3.5 SP1 goes

if I only install the high priority updates and discard the optional ones for the next round then the KB976569 - KB976570 will vanish from the list

this is exactly what happened to the KB971513

Okay, I see, but I don't know why this happens.

[andika207]

For example, "Security Update for Windows XP SP3 (KB4012598)" in the Microsoft Update Catalog will not have a newer update superseding it, but "Security Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4012598)" (which is the one that "normal" Windows XP will look for when you have enabled the POSReady trick!) does have a superseding update (KB4018466, which has been superseded by KB4486465, but, again, only when you look at the POSReady version of the update and this is what Windows XP does when you have enabled the POSReady trick).

You are correct, the KB4486465 is provided by Legacy Update.
However the KB4018466 is also available for ''normal XP'' use but this is not indicated in the superseded KB4012598 link

so the KB4018466 POSReady replaces the KB4012598 POSReady however the normal update KB4018466 doesn't replace the normal KB4012598 ❗
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/microsoft-security-advisory-4025685-guidance-for-older-platforms-june-13-2017-05151e8a-bd7f-f769-43df-38d2c24f96cd

I tried to replicate this seek for the 3 updates left over
KB3197835 = there's nothing
KB4024402 = there's nothing
KB4019204 = the most up to date is available via Legacy Update KB4493207

[andika207]

if you activate POSReady, only KB4500331 should be necessary to install manually

as noted above I could not find the superseded udpates for KB3197835 - KB4024402 which are missing from Legacy Update

[andika207]

I asked above what you tried to do with the repair tool and what error, if any, it told you.

I have not tried to use any repair tool.
just out of curiosity I simply installed the NET 4.0 standalone installer instead of using the NET 4.0 update from Legacy Update and it brought out these two addional updates

[andika207]

Well, I believe [KB2964358] is included in KB4018271 for IE8 (and in KB3124275 for IE6, KB3148198 for IE7 and KB4493435 for IE8) since the Internet Explorer updates are cumulative […] meaning that you shouldn't need to install KB2964358 if you activate the POSReady trick.

OK. I feel happy when discarding these optional updates so I don't have to take care of.

[andika207]

I meant that this should have been done back in March 2014 to be done properly … but of course I'm not blaming you in any way.
I started with this (in this kind of a more experimental way, including the use of Legacy Update) during summer 2023.

it's rather simple to understand, back in 2014 I thought Win8 was another Microsoft's epic fail and that they would get back to the classic visual style but NO they went ahead and came up with more BS like Win10
this is the main reason why I didn't take WinXP updates too seriously bacause I had no idea I would still be using it 10 years post EOL this is also the reason that got me requesting a modern browser for WinXP which works perfect and I hope it last me 3 more years until Win13 LOL win32ss/supermium#29 (comment)

[andika207]

I hope that you endure my recurring lateness of answering you! (There are other things I have to do in life …)

Don't worry sir it's better later than never.

[andika207]

I can't see the list; I have to create an account first.
Maybe it's worth it? Or is it the same list as "abbodi1406" has published here (where there are two lists)?

thanks for the finding. I thought this user was from Russia...
as for the question YES, the link contains the same exact info and I would recommend you to create an account becaue he's very active on that forum

[andika207]

When I change the language of the web browser on my main computer (Microsoft Edge on Windows 10) to another language, and then visit the update catalogue, it will show the information of the updates and the download links in/for the new language, so the additional languages are still available that way.

I'm anything but a fan of EDGE web browser
Blaukovitch/Microsoft-EDGE-Windows-7-CRACK#2 (comment)

hats off you are awesome once again, now WU Catalog brings the update link in other languages when toggling the browser language.
when it's in english-US by default I have found several languages including japanese links only...go figure.

[andika207]

Oh, it seems (nearly) perfect when you combine it with the POSReady exclusive updates (such as KB4019276)

additionally I also compared this listing to Legacy Update (I should post this in the other issue #166 )
I don't download IE8 or WMP11 this is why I strike them out
here is the outcome of LU missing udpates, on the other hand there are a few other LU ''normal'' updates that are not present in this list

-18 = KB2868038
-25 = KB2834886
-37 = KB2691442
-61 = KB973688
-62 = KB954430
-67 = KB2510531 (IE8)
-109 = KB975467
-129 = KB941569 (WMP11)
-131 = KB2632502
-132 = KB2598845 (IE8)
-135 = ?????? (WMP11)
-136 = ????????
-137 = KB939683 (WMP11)
-138 = KB929399 (WMP11)
-139 = KB954154 (WMP11)
-140 = KB963093
-144 = KB2834904 (WMP11)

[Pocokk]

So many stuff can go wrong here, its insane just to read all of these conversations top to bottom.

[AntonFromSweden]

Oh dear! Time's running really fast! Please forgive me for not answering until now. Let's see if it's still relevant to answer the remaining questions/comments in this thread.

So many stuff can go wrong here, its insane just to read all of these conversations top to bottom.

Yes ... Let's make the thread some longer, shall we ...? (Please note the sarcasm in here.) However, the easiest way is to install all the updates offered by Legacy Update without the POSReady trick, and then install some other updates, such as KB942288, and then enable the POSReady trick. For the perfectionist, there are some more to do. However, the best way of installing and updating Windows XP would have been to do it continuously during the official in-support years.

I tried to replicate this seek for the 3 updates left over KB3197835 = there's nothing KB4024402 = there's nothing KB4019204 = the most up to date is available via Legacy Update KB4493207

Instead of KB4493207, you mean KB4493927, I think ...

if you activate POSReady, only KB4500331 should be necessary to install manually

as noted above I could not find the superseded udpates for KB3197835 - KB4024402 which are missing from Legacy Update

Are KB3197835 and KB4024402 missing from Legacy Update without appearing to have been superseded by newer updates? Well, then we should install them manually, too.

Well, I believe [KB2964358] is included in KB4018271 for IE8 (and in KB3124275 for IE6, KB3148198 for IE7 and KB4493435 for IE8) since the Internet Explorer updates are cumulative […] meaning that you shouldn't need to install KB2964358 if you activate the POSReady trick.

OK. I feel happy when discarding these optional updates so I don't have to take care of.

What do you say about this one: KB2936068 for IE6, IE7 and IE8, which I discovered some time ago? It's the April 2014 cumulative update for Internet Explorer on Windows XP! It really should be offered by Windows Update/Microsoft Update/Legacy Update, but it doesn't seem to!

I can't see the list; I have to create an account first.
Maybe it's worth it? Or is it the same list as "abbodi1406" has published here (where there are two lists)?

thanks for the finding. I thought this user was from Russia... as for the question YES, the link contains the same exact info and I would recommend you to create an account becaue he's very active on that forum

According to the flag of his profile, he's from Saudi Arabia. However, now I have created an account on that MyDigitalLife website. Thereto, I have evaluated many of the links offered by "abbodi1406" in the TXT file format download (after having unzipped it). The links are very interesting!

According to the download links, many of the extra updates we've talked about (such as KB2936068 and KB2964358) have been available within the Windows Update/Microsoft Update service and are still downloadable by using the web addresses given in these documents provided by "abbodi1406".

Some of the most interesting updates in his lists, as far as I've discovered by now, are KB4480965 for IE7 and the updates published after the end of Windows Embedded POSReady 2009 on 9 April 2019. Sadly, those "extra-extra" (in our point of view) updates, such as the September 2019 cumulative security update for IE8 on Windows XP (KB4516046), are only available for the x64 version of Windows XP.

When I change the language of the web browser on my main computer (Microsoft Edge on Windows 10) to another language, and then visit the update catalogue, it will show the information of the updates and the download links in/for the new language, so the additional languages are still available that way.

I'm anything but a fan of EDGE web browser Blaukovitch/Microsoft-EDGE-Windows-7-CRACK#2 (comment)

Well, I agree in parts – I used Internet Explorer as much as possible until it was blocked by Microsoft – but I think that Microsoft Edge (about a year ago, which is still possible to achieve in the browser settings!) has better visual styles than Google Chrome (despite the fact that they are both built on the Google Chrome (Chromium) technology). Also, Edge has the feature "Internet Explorer mode" which allows you to use parts of IE even nowadays.

By the way, do you know how to open Internet Explorer in Windows 10 today when it's blocked and redirected to Edge automatically? Set Internet Explorer as your main browser, go to the built-in "Control Panel" in Windows, click on "Network and Internet" (or something like that; I don't have the English edition of any newer Windows version), click on "Internet Options", the "Program" header, "Manage add-ons" and then, in the bottom of the managing window, something like "Find more toolbars and add-ons".

This will open Internet Explorer for you in Windows 10 (and perhaps Windows 11) nowadays! (Until Microsoft discovers it and blocks the possibility.)

hats off you are awesome once again, now WU Catalog brings the update link in other languages when toggling the browser language. when it's in english-US by default I have found several languages including japanese links only...go figure.

Well, I've seen the same language inaccuracies, too, when using the Swedish version of the catalogue. Two of these language-errant updates are these ones (write the ID in the search box): 6343f284-77e8-4582-a7dd-4c75bf4142d1 and KB4487085. To me, they are shown in English only, despite the language of the browser being Swedish. However, they are available in Swedish in abbodi1406's lists mentioned above. For the moment, I don't know how the "Automatic Updates" feature or the Legacy Update website treat those updates.

KB975467 should only be offered via Legacy Update if you already have installed KB968389. Interestingly, when using Windows XP Mode (which virtual hard disk file can be obtained by extracting the EXE download file, after which Windows XP Mode can be easily activated by phoning the Microsoft activation telephone number in your country!), there will be eight updates available BEFORE having installed Legacy Update, as if the old Microsoft Update service worked again! Then, KB968389 is one of them and KB975467 should be available automatically when expanding Windows Update/Microsoft Update to its normal state by using Legacy Update.

Of course, I encourage everyone to use Windows XP Mode in his/her own language.

KB2632502 is missing from the update catalogue and from abbodi's lists. When I browse it on Google, there is only ONE search result: this thread!

KB954430 and KB973688 do only seem to be necessary if you do already have MSXML 4.0 installed on your machine.

KB2598845 is an optional update. To obtain that one, you have to visit the Legacy Update website (and not "Automatic Updates").

KB963093 is an update for Windows Search 4.0 (KB940157), available when you have installed Windows Search 4.0 (and searched for updates).

To me, KB2868038 and KB941569 (and KB2492386, which you've not mentioned) had to be installed manually. All the other updates shown by you are installed automatically when using "Automatic Updates".

Sometimes, KB4487990 is offered to me, and sometimes not, so I put this reminder here: don't forget it. It's still available in the update catalogue.

Generally, it doesn't hurt your system if you install an update that has been superseded by a newer one; then the machine will run through the installation but not install anything. Still, it will show the older update as installed in the update list in the Control Panel.