Query on the SpecFEM3D Cartesian Moment Tensor Convention and the Real World Examples using CMTSOLUTIONs from the USGS Finite Fault Models #1875
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hi Dan, thanks a lot for your report and diligence in checking the CMT solutions! regarding your understanding, both point 1 and 2 are correct. for point 3, the finite-fault CMTSOLUTION files (multi-point as you call it) use the same Harvard convention. there is no special handling between single or multiple CMTs. so far, SPECFEM3D expects the Harvard (globalCMT) convention as input. that means I need to fix the USGS CMT examples... when setting up the real world examples, I assumed that the USGS solutions would be provided in this format. however, as you point out above, it seems more like they used the Aki&Richards convention - thus, i fell again into one of these convention traps :( i'll check and update the examples accordingly. it would probably be easiest by just adding a parameter flag in the Par_file to point out that the CMT is using the USGS (Aki&Richards) convention. that way, we could use the original finite-fault files provided by USGS as inputs. thanks for pointing out! |
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This is just to confirm your suspicions of the finite-fault CMT convention: the USGS finite-fault CMTSOLUTION files currently use the North-East-Down ('NED' which is Aki & Richards) convention. this stems from their use of the obspy mopad script default setting when creating a Emanuele (@casarotti) recently noticed a similar inconsistency, did some detective work and asked USGS about it. He was pointed to this routine responsible for the USGS finite-fault CMTSOLUTION output: Emanuele noticed in particular the lines which creates the moment tensor Unless the USGS is willing to change this for their finite-fault products, it looks like we have to live with the finite-fault solutions be given in the Aki & Richards convention. |
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My name is Rintaro Enomoto, and I am a graduate student at Kyoto University. I have been using SPECFEM in my research and greatly appreciate the efforts of everyone involved in developing and maintaining this valuable software. I would like to follow up on the discussion above. In pull request #1877, it appears that DATA/Par_file was not updated. I tried adding the following line to DATA/Par_file: CMT_CONVENTION_FORMAT = NED With this addition, I think the code worked as expected. I am also wondering whether a corresponding update could be made to SPECFEM3D_GLOBE, as other users may also wish to use finite-fault files provided by the USGS. Thank you, |
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Good day,
I am writing here to ask about the moment tensor convention used in the CMTSOLUTION input for SpecFEM3D Cartesian, as well as the Real World examples using CMTSOLUTIONs from USGS Finite Fault Models.
I’ll note the manual, previous discussions, some checks that we ran, and the codebase handling the CMT in this discussion.
(Apologies in advance for the long text.)
Documentation:
Discussion:
#1439

#1453

#977

Checking Examples (A):
For further checking, the examples under specfem3d/EXAMPLES/real_world/ can be consulted.
Checking Examples (B):
The USGS Finite Fault page for the event is given in this link
Comparing with the CMTSOLUTION file in the DATA folder of the simulation, the file in the USGS page has been updated, with nearly twice the sub-fault entries:
Own Test Case:
Codebase:
Queries:
Given these, I would like to verify if my understanding is correct:
Furthermore, I'd like to ask:
3. If SpecFEM3D handles multi-point CMTSOLUTIONS differently, or if they too should conform to the convention as in 1.
4. If anyone else can check if the USGS Finite Fault solutions are actually using the Aki and Richards (1980) / North-East-Down convention, or if they do match the RTP convention
Many thanks.
Sincerely,
Dan
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