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 <div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU' target='_blank'>2025-08-20 15:56</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#787fdf'>erin</span>: tomusdrw: i&#x27;ve set up the archiver to archive this also, so hopefully will be up starting tomorrow</div>
@@ -1689,3 +1689,4 @@ <h1>#jam-conformance:matrix.org</h1>
 <div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$dCA9sUTbkaXDCQT5bWCifWBVl0GAG68T2iT-1hbbvqQ'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$dCA9sUTbkaXDCQT5bWCifWBVl0GAG68T2iT-1hbbvqQ' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$dCA9sUTbkaXDCQT5bWCifWBVl0GAG68T2iT-1hbbvqQ' target='_blank'>2026-01-05 16:06</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#be2950'>clearloop</span>: Thanks! so likely I got some problems in our implementations, I thought the ex hash check is conflict with other tests</div>
 <div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$DeA5SNepFAVJZl-8HAVvJup2STe4_O59YGK5wu-aZyo'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$DeA5SNepFAVJZl-8HAVvJup2STe4_O59YGK5wu-aZyo' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$DeA5SNepFAVJZl-8HAVvJup2STe4_O59YGK5wu-aZyo' target='_blank'>2026-01-06 11:40</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#be2950'>clearloop</span>: we were doing json decoding for our local tests that we failed to decode the <code>output_oversize</code> result which caused us failed to validate the signature for block <code>41</code>
  <span class="edited">(edited)</span></div>
+<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$v_kWgcoFAcOm6lirlRKqKm_7h8kA5gDfUNJALl5-cTQ'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$v_kWgcoFAcOm6lirlRKqKm_7h8kA5gDfUNJALl5-cTQ' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$v_kWgcoFAcOm6lirlRKqKm_7h8kA5gDfUNJALl5-cTQ' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 17:20</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#6f63cc'>decentration</span>: hey davxy , im having a quite a hair pulling time executing service blob in v0.7.1, spending a long while trying to conform to it, is there a dissembled version of it for code hash <code>0xee79d0b64091d826e5317add07c3751dbd42a536cfc4482204adf0705561a92d</code>, which is in stf/accumulate of the davxy/jam-test-vectors? <span class="edited">(edited)</span></div>

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-# exported: 2026-01-07 03:45 UTC
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 2025-08-20 15:56 erin: tomusdrw: i've set up the archiver to archive this also, so hopefully will be up starting tomorrow
 2025-08-21 06:33 ascriv: https://github.com/davxy/jam-conformance/issues/26 should we not discourage open source implementations (for now)? [edited]
 2025-08-21 10:27 oliver.tale-yazdi: I think open source repos are fine. Other implementors are just not supposed to look at it
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   ↳ 2026-01-05 16:06 clearloop: Thanks! so likely I got some problems in our implementations, I thought the ex hash check is conflict with other tests
   ↳ 2026-01-06 11:40 clearloop: we were doing json decoding for our local tests that we failed to decode the `output_oversize` result which caused us failed to validate the signature for block `41`
  [edited]
+2026-01-07 17:20 decentration: hey davxy , im having a quite a hair pulling time executing service blob in v0.7.1, spending a long while trying to conform to it, is there a dissembled version of it for code hash `0xee79d0b64091d826e5317add07c3751dbd42a536cfc4482204adf0705561a92d`, which is in stf/accumulate of the davxy/jam-test-vectors? [edited]

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 I&#x27;ve updated <code>polkaports</code> to fix the issue. Simply pull the repo and run setup &amp; quake compilation steps again. You might need to run <code>make clean</code> in <code>quake</code> directory to remove old program blob.</div>
+<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$ZWHutZvIS7r5EOtEy7vNkcsMbEaCd42oO-bqcnay16k'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$ZWHutZvIS7r5EOtEy7vNkcsMbEaCd42oO-bqcnay16k' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$ZWHutZvIS7r5EOtEy7vNkcsMbEaCd42oO-bqcnay16k' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 06:00</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#d27e2d'>sisco0</span>: Have a great day everyone! I am struggling to understand the Graypaper.
+Would getting more context about what is Polkadot would help me to understand it better?
+Is there any course that be recommended in this regard?
+
+Thank you! :)</div>
+<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$kqGWC6UvY4oraGMzwrj-mxauCKiZKsr6lMMPEjYrS1k'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$kqGWC6UvY4oraGMzwrj-mxauCKiZKsr6lMMPEjYrS1k' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$kqGWC6UvY4oraGMzwrj-mxauCKiZKsr6lMMPEjYrS1k' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 07:02</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#bfaf39'>dakkk</span>: What are you struggling to understand and what is the goal of your understanding? <span class="edited">(edited)</span></div>
+<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$k50RBw8Iq83QWYhkxsRuriT5QLmQf5X6-iN5OwwZ25E'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$k50RBw8Iq83QWYhkxsRuriT5QLmQf5X6-iN5OwwZ25E' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$k50RBw8Iq83QWYhkxsRuriT5QLmQf5X6-iN5OwwZ25E' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 13:46</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#4977cf'>danicuki</span>: Understanding the Graypaper is a long learning journey, even for people familiar with basics of blockchain and Polkadot. I suggest you to watch some of <a href="https://graypaper.com/lectures/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">Gav&#x27;s lectures</a> and also some videos on <a href="https://graypaper.com/news/" rel="noopener" target="_blank">the news tab</a>. I also published an <a href="https://x.com/danicuki/status/1909315806824964277" rel="noopener" target="_blank">X super thread</a> explaining some of the JAM Concepts. I hope this helps to start</div>
+<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$3oS71RhSf7v5BdTn4v3CGNywSlqGMYE8-50gajPH03o'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$3oS71RhSf7v5BdTn4v3CGNywSlqGMYE8-50gajPH03o' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$3oS71RhSf7v5BdTn4v3CGNywSlqGMYE8-50gajPH03o' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 16:42</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#825bc4'>jay_ztc</span>: Hi folks, happy new years! Is there a standardized perf test suite for pvm implementations? I&#x27;m looking at the pinky benchmark used on polkavm developed by Jan Bujak </div>
+<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$llxkuNLGWqUxBixM_og9A4L7qcxJqbOzb2yevRbuJ5Q'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$llxkuNLGWqUxBixM_og9A4L7qcxJqbOzb2yevRbuJ5Q' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$llxkuNLGWqUxBixM_og9A4L7qcxJqbOzb2yevRbuJ5Q' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 17:51</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#825bc4'>jay_ztc</span>: Thoughts on creating custom benchtool backends for pvm implementations?
+
+<a href="https://github.com/paritytech/polkavm/tree/master/tools/benchtool/src/backend" rel="noopener" target="_blank">https://github.com/paritytech/polkavm/tree/master/tools/benchtool/src/backend</a></div>
+<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$8N_xY5Co3-aXi1KTGCa4nasnKwGx5ZHKabY6VCIOSfY'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$8N_xY5Co3-aXi1KTGCa4nasnKwGx5ZHKabY6VCIOSfY' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$8N_xY5Co3-aXi1KTGCa4nasnKwGx5ZHKabY6VCIOSfY' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 17:53</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#da5c80'>jan</span>: Feel free to add your implementation there if you want.
+
+Although note that the M3/M4 PVM testing harness that I will be working on sometime this year will be designed for performance testing.</div>
+<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$ufhRwGFv6ht7IYmPpRrjokwGYukCKa9O1QeHZuAEzrU'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$ufhRwGFv6ht7IYmPpRrjokwGYukCKa9O1QeHZuAEzrU' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$ufhRwGFv6ht7IYmPpRrjokwGYukCKa9O1QeHZuAEzrU' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 18:02</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#825bc4'>jay_ztc</span>: Thanks for the quick response Jan Bujak 
+
+Are you thinking about covering host functions in the harness?</div>
+<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$xZ_yynv6DKCJM0bLGS3zsfQaHf57fftb7uG6-F0BPZI'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$xZ_yynv6DKCJM0bLGS3zsfQaHf57fftb7uG6-F0BPZI' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$xZ_yynv6DKCJM0bLGS3zsfQaHf57fftb7uG6-F0BPZI' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 18:03</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#da5c80'>jan</span>: Probably, since those will also have to be audited whether they meet the performance requirements. But initially only pure PVM.</div>
+<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$q-EsaADi6N2j60jrZAWDD4AVA7NQQ9PAWV4IkRCI3iE'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$q-EsaADi6N2j60jrZAWDD4AVA7NQQ9PAWV4IkRCI3iE' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$q-EsaADi6N2j60jrZAWDD4AVA7NQQ9PAWV4IkRCI3iE' target='_blank'>2026-01-07 18:43</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#825bc4'>jay_ztc</span>: Makes sense, thanks for sharing your thoughts Jan Bujak
+
+I&#x27;m excited to follow your work on the harness, especially around the api for testing host functions.
+
+I&#x27;m using a generic pvm interface that is db agnostic- targeting reuse across projects &amp; languages. It hides the host function complexity nicely. <span class="edited">(edited)</span></div>

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-# exported: 2026-01-07 03:45 UTC
+# exported: 2026-01-08 03:44 UTC
 2024-04-20 02:08 johnjiao123: 
 2024-04-20 02:09 johnjiao123: 
 2024-05-30 21:48 nradko: Hey everyone,
@@ -12328,3 +12328,26 @@ For present purposes, PolkaJAM may be used as a reasonable target for that behav
 2026-01-05 13:17 igankevich: This error means that the program blob lacks metadata.
 
 I've updated `polkaports` to fix the issue. Simply pull the repo and run setup & quake compilation steps again. You might need to run `make clean` in `quake` directory to remove old program blob.
+2026-01-07 06:00 sisco0: Have a great day everyone! I am struggling to understand the Graypaper.
+Would getting more context about what is Polkadot would help me to understand it better?
+Is there any course that be recommended in this regard?
+
+Thank you! :)
+2026-01-07 07:02 dakkk: What are you struggling to understand and what is the goal of your understanding? [edited]
+2026-01-07 13:46 danicuki: Understanding the Graypaper is a long learning journey, even for people familiar with basics of blockchain and Polkadot. I suggest you to watch some of [Gav's lectures](https://graypaper.com/lectures/) and also some videos on [the news tab](https://graypaper.com/news/). I also published an [X super thread](https://x.com/danicuki/status/1909315806824964277) explaining some of the JAM Concepts. I hope this helps to start
+2026-01-07 16:42 jay_ztc: Hi folks, happy new years! Is there a standardized perf test suite for pvm implementations? I'm looking at the pinky benchmark used on polkavm developed by Jan Bujak 
+  ↳ 2026-01-07 17:51 jay_ztc: Thoughts on creating custom benchtool backends for pvm implementations?
+
+https://github.com/paritytech/polkavm/tree/master/tools/benchtool/src/backend
+  ↳ 2026-01-07 17:53 jan: Feel free to add your implementation there if you want.
+
+Although note that the M3/M4 PVM testing harness that I will be working on sometime this year will be designed for performance testing.
+  ↳ 2026-01-07 18:02 jay_ztc: Thanks for the quick response Jan Bujak 
+
+Are you thinking about covering host functions in the harness?
+  ↳ 2026-01-07 18:03 jan: Probably, since those will also have to be audited whether they meet the performance requirements. But initially only pure PVM.
+  ↳ 2026-01-07 18:43 jay_ztc: Makes sense, thanks for sharing your thoughts Jan Bujak
+
+I'm excited to follow your work on the harness, especially around the api for testing host functions.
+
+I'm using a generic pvm interface that is db agnostic- targeting reuse across projects & languages. It hides the host function complexity nicely. [edited]