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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU' target='_blank'>2025-08-20 15:56</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#787fdf'>erin</span>: tomusdrw: i&#x27;ve set up the archiver to archive this also, so hopefully will be up starting tomorrow</div>
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The major and most important part of the model is already in my draft, so there&#x27;s nothing stopping you (or anyone else) from implementing it. The algorithm itself is final and will not change in the immediate future. <span class="edited">(edited)</span></div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$B3eAxlmoR57xlRw6y1u--T_wOm14hfDid5j3Av5rq6I'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$B3eAxlmoR57xlRw6y1u--T_wOm14hfDid5j3Av5rq6I' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$B3eAxlmoR57xlRw6y1u--T_wOm14hfDid5j3Av5rq6I' target='_blank'>2025-12-03 18:07</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#da5c80'>jan</span>: I could rush it, but ultimately that won&#x27;t change anything because the amount of work will not change, and half-assing it will just create <em>more</em> work for everyone involved.</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$QlsK95xU4ZbHmoaRpPGc3Ue3LBkUq2yZgD-fZfh8YbI'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$QlsK95xU4ZbHmoaRpPGc3Ue3LBkUq2yZgD-fZfh8YbI' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$QlsK95xU4ZbHmoaRpPGc3Ue3LBkUq2yZgD-fZfh8YbI' target='_blank'>2025-12-04 00:47</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#6f63cc'>decentration</span>: am i able to find a conformant blob that is simpler than the one in accumulate test vectors (0.7.1) i am having some pains processing the blob to produce the expected <code>accumulate_gas_used</code></div>
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