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archive/_21ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ_3Apolkadot.io/index.html

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<p><a href='room_log.txt'>⇩ plaintext</a> · <a href='../../'>⇦ all rooms</a></p>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$G0deSwnlYlCrSn5lIFL__hi6bgWVITql5VyahU4bzpI' target='_blank'>2024-04-17 20:29</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#da6aa2'>syed</span>: <a href="https://matrix.to/#/!hyzRkDqDthePbodYFz:parity.io/$f_DMsIEcDXZegw6Sabnehzc-LrdDQkmq5MbxDDyoZxY?via=parity.io&amp;via=web3.foundation" rel="noopener" target="_blank">https://matrix.to/#/!hyzRkDqDthePbodYFz:parity.io/$f_DMsIEcDXZegw6Sabnehzc-LrdDQkmq5MbxDDyoZxY?via=parity.io&amp;via=web3.foundation</a>
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I am not sure what it is trying to imply.</div>
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<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$fxUu9WxIFk5g-8eHtOj3KZoavNPKLIBgNPDfUvKF3dA' target='_blank'>2025-04-25 16:13</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#c65779'>dave</span>: See my reply in the &quot;Let&#x27;s JAM&quot; channel.</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$L65EhbWUqm9_4qtwMntz-ugCNruU905fdugJa4LHFUo' target='_blank'>2025-04-26 17:40</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#4036ac'>ascriv</span>: For the function definition (D.4), it seems like k could have (much) fewer than 248 bits, e.g. in the case where there are many elements of the preimage lookup for any service account. Since in this case the keys for all of these in the serialized state will have the same first 8 bytes, so by the time we are computing the leaf value for one of these keys we will have cleaved off at least 64 bits, leaving fewer than 192 bits for k, if I understand correctly </div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$TK37WcWt_mgbGgL38cRhvKpF6bIpHzq2Mr_07oc7ekA' target='_blank'>2025-04-26 17:40</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#4036ac'>ascriv</span>: Should we be padding with zeroes in such cases to compute bits(k)…248?</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$tpG2pIm3IerNWDENeS6PaESU-bWc75oV_c2q48GbODo' target='_blank'>2025-04-26 17:47</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#4036ac'>ascriv</span>: Ah, nevermind. This is why we also have the key in the rhs of the map, so we remember the original non-cleaved key</div>

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2025-04-26 17:40 ascriv: For the function definition (D.4), it seems like k could have (much) fewer than 248 bits, e.g. in the case where there are many elements of the preimage lookup for any service account. Since in this case the keys for all of these in the serialized state will have the same first 8 bytes, so by the time we are computing the leaf value for one of these keys we will have cleaved off at least 64 bits, leaving fewer than 192 bits for k, if I understand correctly
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2025-04-26 17:40 ascriv: Should we be padding with zeroes in such cases to compute bits(k)…248?
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2025-04-26 17:47 ascriv: Ah, nevermind. This is why we also have the key in the rhs of the map, so we remember the original non-cleaved key

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there are a few quality of life improvements still to be done but any feedback or comments are welcome if you find this useful. This is also now linked on the jamcha.in site.</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$ZGqa1c96rN5EAgP6irc5YNrqooEAkVy6XfJQYQi-TFs' target='_blank'>2025-04-24 18:25</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#787fdf'>erin</span>: These are updated daily at ~3am UTC.</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$EAuz9kNMCKeHvG8eHIdkcfpN0adt3w4t1eOHVj-TDvE' target='_blank'>2025-04-24 18:29</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#787fdf'>erin</span>: Other JAM-related channels are welcome to be archived - they need to be unencrypted and world-readable (history available to &quot;Anyone&quot;). Please open an issue <a href="https://github.com/paritytech/matrix-archiver" rel="noopener" target="_blank">here</a> with the internal room ID if you wish to archive a channel. <span class="edited">(edited)</span></div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$TjseAcyVOgvL0YojF_k-PwlbstbFXjnspBJovJLmr_4' target='_blank'>2025-04-26 14:17</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#be2950'>clearloop</span>: just found that the archiver is even easier than matrix to search chat history lmao, hope we can integrate more sources into the static site asap
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it even supports links to messages, threads with paddings, great work, direct and efficient <span class="edited">(edited)</span></div>
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<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$UdC_hsXtHsa_eS3A_f_12yWFH7zR9GpyaA6YB6UYDy4' target='_blank'>2025-04-26 14:23</a>&ensp;<span class='u' style='color:#787fdf'>erin</span>: thank you!</div>

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2025-04-24 18:29 erin: Other JAM-related channels are welcome to be archived - they need to be unencrypted and world-readable (history available to "Anyone"). Please open an issue [here](https://github.com/paritytech/matrix-archiver) with the internal room ID if you wish to archive a channel. [edited]
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2025-04-26 14:17 clearloop: just found that the archiver is even easier than matrix to search chat history lmao, hope we can integrate more sources into the static site asap
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↳ 2025-04-26 14:23 erin: thank you!

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