Recommendation for setup with well #232
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Hi all! Just started playing around with this integration, and it looks very promising so far. Very impressed. Wondering about what would be the best way to proceed.. I am running my sprinkler system (10 zones) of a dedicated well. I am able to run for about 30/60 minutes, per cycle until the well "runs dry". I will then have to wait for a couple of hours, until I can run again. I currently am running a rainbird controller, with 4 programs (max limit). Two programs run every day, one early in the morning, one in the afternoon. A couple of zones are ran every day, most of them alternate days. If I have a rain delay, it will skip the program for the entire day. The reason I want to change to "Irrigation V5" integration, because I want to add more programs, such that I can run my individual zones longer. What is the best way to ensure a correct operation?
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Hi, Do you have sensors to determine if the well is to low or ready to water? If these are available you can use the well sensor function to pause the program until there is water available. If not, rather than a long interzone delay, I would use template sensors to pause the program at pre determined intervals to allow the well to refill. something like this pause example. The advantage here is that it simplifies the definition and works around the well refill timelines instead. But as you have noted there is a lot of flexibility to how you can use this solution. |
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Hi Peter, I have no sensor in the well, but I do have a flow sensor, I have programmed an alarm in case flow falls when we are expecting a flow. One more question, when configuring an alternating program, zone 1 every other day, zone 2 the opposing other day (if that makes sense). How do I make sure that zone 1 starts today, but zone 2 does not start until tomorrow? Other than programming both, turning zone 1 on today, and then turn zone 2 on tomorrow. |
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You may be best creating a program where the zones run on named days of the week to force the alternating days. If you use the days between method they would synchronise after rain as they would all now be more than 2 days since the last watering and all zones would try to run. |
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Thank you so much! Would this be the correct place for a feature request that is related to all this? I think an Odd/Even schedule would be very beneficial. All commercial controllers that I have worked with, even the most basic ones, have this as an option. Many cities (in the US at least) even mandate an odd/even schedule based on house number, to preserve water. |
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I can add this to the backlog in Australia, we are mandated to water on certain days, even number houses on Monday Wednesday, Odd houses on Tuesday, Thursday. Depending on how bad the water situation is, can even occasionally water a third day! |
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So the rules are a house can only water on alternate days, odd numbered days or even numbered days based on the date? This does would satisfy your requirement for zones to alternate days directly though, if you have a program for Odd days and Even days. Although for months with 31 or 29 to be specific days a zone will get two days concurrently. |
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Hi Peter, So here it is based on the last digit of the house number. Ending with odd number, are allowed to water on odd dates, and vice versa. You are correct that there are several days with two consecutive odd dates in the year, but that accounts to maybe a couple of days in the hot season, where I may have to run the system manually. Just to clarify, I am not currently limited by this, because I put in my own well. I actually use the odd/even logic for alternating watering of zones, that was the easiest way to do this in my rainbird controller. I think I got it to work by making two bits that will denote it is an odd or even day, combined with the rain sensor. So we only water my even zones if the odd day or raining bit is false. I hope that makes sense :). Thanks again for your insights! If you would like me to help you with translations, I speak Dutch natively and am fluently in Norwegian (while living in the US). Just let me know if you would like me to take a crack at it. |
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Alright I made a Norwegian translation for you. Just a note, I would expect the strings.json to be identical to the en.json in the translations folder. It isn't. It may be missing the watering_type class. Not sure. |
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Hello Peter, hope this is the right spot I need some help! I used to have a weather station, but after the move to another house, I didn't bring it with me anymore. Now I'm trying to create my own sensors and need some help with the right values in the sensor.wupws_preciprate (forecast precipitation for the present hour) |
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Hi,
Do you have sensors to determine if the well is to low or ready to water? If these are available you can use the well sensor function to pause the program until there is water available.
If not, rather than a long interzone delay, I would use template sensors to pause the program at pre determined intervals to allow the well to refill. something like this pause example. The advantage here is that it simplifies the definition and works around the well refill timelines instead.
But as you have noted there is a lot of flexibility to how you can use this solution.