Zustand 5 is too good.

[enricoros]

Saying this is a piece of art is an understatement - this library is in the upper echelon with things like Zod, tRPC or even Typescript itself or linters. Thank you Poimandres, @dai-shi .

I ported my app to 5.0 (clean, without use-sync-external-store), and couldn't be happier of the results.

• in particular removing the cause of 'recursion' errors (if you know you know) has added stability to states and made the app faster and more resilient, and proved a great investment for UX!

I couldn't find a way to comment on the release itself, so here is to you!
🎊 Congrats to the Zustand team!!! 🥇

(and you can safely close this ticket :)

[dai-shi]

So nice to hear that! (Let's keep this open for a while.)

[sagarpanchal]

@dai-shi My comment could be off-topic.

Initially, I believed that zustand was React specific because the create returned a hook.
But zustand is very good with vanilla JavaScript. The ability to create stores using createStore and use with React or just JavaScript and DOM is outstanding. I am used to a pattern where I create stateful services (like sdk) for front-end that would return store, actions and selectors and they could be paired with JS or React. Subscriptions also helped me avoid using useEffect when UI is not a concern with the effect.

[lemondreamtobe]

Saying this is a piece of art is an understatement - this library is in the upper echelon with things like Zod, tRPC or even Typescript itself or linters. Thank you Poimandres, @dai-shi .

I ported my app to 5.0 (clean, without use-sync-external-store), and couldn't be happier of the results.

• in particular removing the cause of 'recursion' errors (if you know you know) has added stability to states and made the app faster and more resilient, and proved a great investment for UX!

I couldn't find a way to comment on the release itself, so here is to you! 🎊 Congrats to the Zustand team!!! 🥇

(and you can safely close this ticket :)

absolutely agree!.I think zustand is the most perfect store library for React.~ I love it!

[csvan]

Indeed, thank you so much for this lib <3

[rg-lahcene]

I will screenshot this issue in my ADR for choosing zustand as state managment library :D

[Sharqiewicz]

❤️

[zxkws]

Saying this is a piece of art is an understatement - this library is in the upper echelon with things like Zod, tRPC or even Typescript itself or linters. Thank you Poimandres, @dai-shi .
I ported my app to 5.0 (clean, without use-sync-external-store), and couldn't be happier of the results.

• in particular removing the cause of 'recursion' errors (if you know you know) has added stability to states and made the app faster and more resilient, and proved a great investment for UX!

I couldn't find a way to comment on the release itself, so here is to you! 🎊 Congrats to the Zustand team!!! 🥇
(and you can safely close this ticket :)

absolutely agree!.I think zustand is the most perfect store library for React.~ I love it!

Me too!

[radaco99]

When I realized I needed state management for my app, my first thought was, "Oh no, here comes Redux again!" Back when I was learning React, Redux was pretty much the only option. But then I discovered Zustand—and wow, what a game-changer!

It's so simple that I was initially skeptical, but nope, it’s rock solid! I rarely leave comments or feedback, but this library is truly in a league of its own. Incredible work, team—well done! 👏

[94Rabbit]

I also used zustand by chance and it was like a treasure 😂。

[KrishnaPG]

Not sure if this is the right forum, but wondering: pmndrs has multiple state management libraries: valtio, zustand, koota and jotai.

All seem to be pretty much targeting the same functionality.

Q:

1. It is not clear why there exists multiple, and there does not seem to be any documentation comparing and contrast these with each other (specifically, when to use what, pros and cons etc.)
2. Or is it more like one of these is going to replace all the others?

It is really confusing to see multiple packages of same functionality under one brand. It would be great if they all either get merged into one or others get marked as deprecated and one remains.

[dai-shi]

@KrishnaPG Please open a new discussion.

[KrishnaPG]

Thank you @dai-shi Done: #3077

[ipnon]

zustand makes React bearable 🧸

In all seriousness it is like LiveView in that it gets very near to an ideal way to write stateful client programs. And in such a simple way too. Us mortal programmers are not meant to keep endless waterfalls of props and callbacks in short-term memory.

I knew zustand was going to be good when I saw so much praise and so little documentation! A library that barely needs explanation will rarely let you down.

Thank you for your excellent work.