Search has been removed from the "Workspaces view". Was it really necessary? #95
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FYI, cosmic is actually just a gnome extension which means you can disable it to get back to the old behavior. Didn't realize that until a few days ago. |
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Copying my comment here for discussion. Not sure about other people, but I'm not really partial to whether it is gnome search or launcher. On keystroke, instead of It would do. |
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Hi, |
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https://blog.system76.com/post/655369419513544704/how-we-arrived-at-the-popos-cosmic-design |
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I use search in the overview specifically because with it I have a one stop shop for everything. |
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so no one uses workspaces to search and open a bunch of apps to then place them in different workspaces quickly? now there are more steps and there is plenty of room to keep search in the workspace view i don't get why it had to be removed, plus the new launcher search is not even the same , old one was quicker because you didn't have to spell out the whole name of the app, typing f and enter would open firefox now its firmware, vs would open vscode but now its libraoffice draw... i keep opening wrong apps because of muscle memory |
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It makes no sense to me why they changed the workspaces view. I have no problem with wanted to move to the new app launcher, but please restore the functionality of the workspaces view so those of us that are used to it don't have to switch back to Ubuntu just to get a functional workspaces view. Please, just an option to turn it back on if we wish. |
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The all-in-one, single-key launcher was one of the best features of Pop_OS over Ubuntu. I also vote to bring it back. In the meantime, here's the easy way to get it back:
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I completely agree. The removal of search in the workspaces view have seriously impacted my workflow.
This causes my workflow to be something like this right now:
Previously it was:
Please restore functionality that so many people depend on in their workflow, or at least give us the option to re-enable it. |
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And cosmic is slow!! |
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Suggestion:If you bring back the ability to see my applications as windows just like in workspaces, I for one might be tempted to give your new search a try. As others already stated, there are people rely on the "thumbnail" of the application to quickly switch between apps. Removing the possibility of identifying my applications quickly, seeing on which monitor they are and reordering them quickly seriously impares my current workflow. One of the reasons I stuck with Pop after distro hopping quite a bit was the way the super key worked. I honestly couldn't care less if it's "bad UX design" like some mentioned here. In my opinion it was "extremely good UX design" because it makes life just so much easier. to address @mmsticks point:
It's really not about being impulsive. It's about not wanting to work more than is necessary when working with multiple windows. I'm a devops engineer. Having at least 6 applications open at a time is my norm, usually it's more, often even multiple instances of one application. that means having a list of applications with icons is really not an option for me, it's just more work and takes longer to see which window I'm looking for. I also frequently need to launch new windows, so my most frequent actions are
So it makes a lot of sense to have this be one single key instead of two right? |
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For those who want to enable search in the workspaces view but want to keep other cosmic functionality (e.g. the dynamic dock), you only need to disable pop-cosmic (the first 2 lines of @jkleint 's answer).
After doing this I wasn't able to see the actual search bar in the workspaces menu until after a reboot (or logout & login), although the search functionality worked. |
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With 21.10 on the horizon and the Beta now out, The Original Issue for this discussion: This New Issue for 21.10: Here is a GIF on my take. I have been using this since the 21.04 Beta. My implementation doesn't quite match the mock-ups in the new issue, but this is what works for me. Code For It: Shell Cosmic Based on Impish (21.10) Branch for Gnome 3x & 4x Cosmic Based on Hirsute (21.04) Branch for Gnome 3x One Known Bug: |
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The single entry workflow is modern and vital to many users now, and we want more choices than GNOME. Most importantly for the repetitive task of switching anything between tasks, having 1 key and not having to know multiple multi-key shortcuts over and over reduces cognitive fatigue. When you need to shift your attention, you just do it because there is one key so your muscles can get there the same time your mind does. It doesn't matter if it's the new application launcher or GNOME's,m we just don't want to be abandoned because we like to do things simpler and faster. This is most important for the new rust desktop. There isn't any good argument for not allowing the option to launch applications from the overview, (or to launch the launcher by typing while int he overview). Need to switch windows? super This is simpler. This is faster. This is better. |
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Partially coming from MacOS I can understand the Pop devs going the same route with a separate workspaces, application dashboard and launcher. Pop now having a better launcher is great, and making them separate entities is understandable, but not being able to include the new launcher in the workplaces view is a regression in functionality that made the Gnome workflow so great. I have disabled the pop_cosmic extension for now, but I hope the new launcher gets featured on the new workplaces page, which I also find better than standard Gnome. |
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One of the devs mentions the plan is to eventually integrate the launcher (not app library) into workspace view. That satisfies me (even as an option toggle) completely and wouldn't want to disable the extension at that point. What do you all think? |
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I miss being able to search for files in the super menu 😢 |
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I have been using pop_os with the new behavior for over a year now, and not a day goes by that I don't miss the old behavior of being to search/launch applications from the workspace menu. @mmstick are there any plans of adding this back at some point? I am trying out the hacks from this thread now, but would it really be so bad to just have a toggle somewhere which allows the Launcher as an overlay to the workspace overview upon starting to type? |
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Just coming from using KDE for a few years, and they see the usefulness of the overview functionality now. It basically makes the SUPER key Super, a true multitasker from which I can: I really like the idea of system76 developing their own desktop and am interested that they are using Rust and getting away from gtk. All great things IMO - so I hope there will be a way to bring this functionality into the workflow, even if it is an option and not the default. And I'm not a programmer. I do a lot of research and writing, and really like the functionality of of having optional tiling as a part of the DE |
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Still hoping that this will be addressesd in a future update. I love the Cosmic workspaces and gestures, but absolutely hate the lack of search. (Side note, the |
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Just upgraded from 20.04 to 22.04 and very surprised by this - strange design decision imo. Typing does nothing in workspaces view, so adding a search bar doesn't detract from it at all as far as I can see. Genuinely wondering why, years later, this decision has stuck despite apparently being almost universally disliked? @mmstick @jackpot51 Apologies for the ping - wondering whether there are any updates here? If PopOS team is adamant here, maybe the associated issue (#85) should be closed? |
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With Alpha 1 out, this needs to be revisited. Please considering implementing the mockup here: pop-os/shell#1186 Other quality of life consideration is to please ensure that apps can be dragged to workspaces / panel to launch on a specific workspace or add to dock/panel |
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The current issue for cosmic-epoch seems to be the below link FYI, so no need to make a new issue. If anyone is able to help develop and submit a PR, please help us. <3 |
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We started to discuss it in #85; #70; pop-os/shell#995 and some other.
As I can see, not only I was used to search for apps in "Workspaces view".
Yes, "App view", "Workspaces view" and Launcher are 3 completely different tools. But IMHO auto-switching to search on typing was really useful feature.
I propose to discuss options for a solution that will suit the majority. For example, auto-switching to launcher on typing, or adding switch for enabling old search in Workspaces view.
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