[Feature Request] Retro tapping timeout

[antosha417]

Feature Request Type

• Core functionality
• Add-on hardware support (eg. audio, RGB, OLED screen, etc.)
• Alteration (enhancement/optimization) of existing feature(s)
• New behavior

Description

In the docs I see that RETRO_SHIFT can be configured with a timeout.

If RETRO_SHIFT is defined to a value, hold times greater than that value will not produce a tap on release. This enables modifiers to be held for combining with mouse clicks without generating taps on release. For example: #define RETRO_SHIFT 500

I think adding the same behaviour to RETRO_TAPPING would be a great with exactly the same reasoning as stands for RETRO_SHIFT. What do you think about that?

[antosha417]

I managed to achieve desired behaviour with TAPPING_TERM_PER_KEY and HOLD_ON_OTHER_KEY_PRESS_PER_KEY.

This way when I hold mod tap key longer then it's tapping term and release it no keycodes are send
to the computer. And as soon as I press and hold it I get hold action. So tapping term acts like timeout for tapping action and I get configure it to be as big or as little as I like.

I think you can safely close the issue.

[codebynils]

Please, do not close this issue. It is a necessary feature.

First of all, I use the Moonlander fork, so I cannot customise the keyboard in such a detail. And all of this settings seems to have side effects, so only a specific configuration works for me.

I enabled Retro Tapping and it makes typing much better. But there are huge problems:

• If I use it with the mouse it does not recognise the mouse clicks. For example if I want to select many files I hold shift key which is configured as "held on 'a' character" and click on the last file in the list and it selects all files as wanted. But then I release the a/shift key an a is sent and the selection is revoked. So I have to handle hundred files one by one.
  This happens with the programmed mouse keys of the keyboard (what i think is a bug on its own) just as with an external mouse (what is logical).
• Often I have the situation that I start a special key combo and stop in this process because I want to do something else first. So the hold key is down an by releasing it fires the key. I have no chance to stop it. But outside of the text document a key press can damage things. A hour ago I moved six emails to the archive folder in thunderbird, because the a key stroke seems to do this. And I have many situations in the last weeks where something unexpected happen in a program and I do not know what because the unintended key stroke triggered something.

So this timeout is probably not hard to implement and would make Retro Tapping much more enjoyable.

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[JohnRigoni]

I also wanted this feature. Here is a working proof of concept. Theses changes can be applied to the ZSA firmware as well.

[JohnRigoni]

Now that the retro tapping keyroll fix has been merged #23641, I have submitted a pull to add this retro tapping timeout feature #25138.