Citing websites, 'Accessed' date missing

[SarahJMills]

Hi

I'm using Zotero 6.0.37 with BibTeX to create a book project in Quarto (in RStudio). My University requires Harvard style referencing. At the moment, when citing websites, both in-text citations and the end-text reference list are missing the 'Accessed' field (in-text appear as 'Author, no date'...end-text as 'Author (no date)'). NB the Accessed field is definitely populated in the source Zotero library.

emilianoeheyns advised that the urldate might be missing from the bib file and I think that is the issue. I've created a BBT debug log from one Zotero website entry; Debug log ID: EQI7MFL7-refs-euc/6.7.174-6.

Grateful for any help offered.

Sarah

[retorquere]

For me this exports to Better BibLaTeX:

@online{bowelcancerukItTimeTest,
  title = {It’s {{Time}} to {{Test}} for {{Lynch}} Syndrome},
  author = {{Bowel Cancer UK}},
  url = {https://www.bowelcanceruk.org.uk/campaigning/support-our-campaigns/time-to-test/},
  urldate = {2023-10-18},
  abstract = {Find out if all bowel cancer patients are being tested in your area},
  langid = {british},
  organization = {Bowel Cancer UK},
  keywords = {✅,🎯,Dissertation}
}

or Better BibTeX:

@misc{bowelcancerukItTimeTest,
  title = {It's {{Time}} to {{Test}} for {{Lynch}} Syndrome},
  author = {{Bowel Cancer UK}},
  journal = {Bowel Cancer UK},
  urldate = {2023-10-18},
  abstract = {Find out if all bowel cancer patients are being tested in your area},
  howpublished = {https://www.bowelcanceruk.org.uk/campaigning/support-our-campaigns/time-to-test/},
  langid = {british},
  keywords = {,Dissertation}
}

what do you see when you export this entry?

[retorquere]

In the forums, you said you got

@misc{bowelcanceruka,
title = {It{\textquoteright}s Time to Test for Lynch syndrome},
author = {Bowel Cancer UK, },
url = {https://www.bowelcanceruk.org.uk/campaigning/support-our-campaigns/time-to-test/},
langid = {australian}
}

but I can't reproduce this from EQI7MFL7-refs-euc/6.7.174-6 (with Better or stock bib(la)tex), and the langid suggests it's not the same item.

[retorquere]

(I'm emilianoeheyns BTW)

[SarahJMills]

Thank-you so much for taking the time to look into this… If I export the one item directly from Zotero into a .bib file, it includes all the fields (including url date) as you list below. The issue seems to be something to do with the interface with Quarto (from RStudio/POSIT). As in the screenshot below from https://quarto.org/docs/visual-editor/technical.html#citations, Quarto enables a direct link with my Zotero library, but the resultant .bib file it is creating is lacking the `urldate` field. Completely understand if you say this is out of scope for you at better BibTeX…unfortunately, I tried the Quarto Github discussions but they replied the issue was out of Quarto’s scope. 

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On 23 Apr 2024, at 14:00, Emiliano Heyns ***@***.***> wrote: For me this exports to Better BibLaTeX: @online{bowelcancerukItTimeTest, title = {It’s {{Time}} to {{Test}} for {{Lynch}} Syndrome}, author = {{Bowel Cancer UK}}, url = {https://www.bowelcanceruk.org.uk/campaigning/support-our-campaigns/time-to-test/}, urldate = {2023-10-18}, abstract = {Find out if all bowel cancer patients are being tested in your area}, langid = {british}, organization = {Bowel Cancer UK}, keywords = {✅,🎯,Dissertation} } or Better BibTeX: @misc{bowelcancerukItTimeTest, title = {It's {{Time}} to {{Test}} for {{Lynch}} Syndrome}, author = {{Bowel Cancer UK}}, journal = {Bowel Cancer UK}, urldate = {2023-10-18}, abstract = {Find out if all bowel cancer patients are being tested in your area}, howpublished = {https://www.bowelcanceruk.org.uk/campaigning/support-our-campaigns/time-to-test/}, langid = {british}, keywords = {,Dissertation} } what do you see when you export this entry? — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2845 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ASK3RSWRQBPZPF624YUMDUTY6ZLNXAVCNFSM6AAAAABGUQYIRWVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM4TEMBQG44TA>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.

[retorquere]

I think if you use https://quarto.org/docs/visual-editor/technical.html#citations-from-zotero, Rstudio reads the Zotero database directly, and it generates its own bibtex, no involvement of BBT. I seem to recall it is possible to configure RStudio to use BBT, but I have no experience setting that up.

[SarahJMills]

All very helpful advice, thanks again - will follow that link and do some more tinkering.

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On 24 Apr 2024, at 11:44, Emiliano Heyns ***@***.***> wrote: I think if you use https://quarto.org/docs/visual-editor/technical.html#citations-from-zotero, Rstudio reads the Zotero database directly, and it generates its own bibtex, no involvement of BBT. I seem to recall it is possible to configure RStudio to use BBT, but I have no experience setting that up. — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#2845 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/ASK3RSVOOOQUBQLRNBL5A4DY66EI7AVCNFSM6AAAAABGUQYIRWVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43SRDJONRXK43TNFXW4Q3PNVWWK3TUHM4TEMJRG4YDG>. You are receiving this because you authored the thread.