[BUG]app list discrepancies

[filbo]

On a Google Pixel 10 Pro. I installed Shizuku and Canta and began exploring. There are some small but odd discrepancies between the apps lists seen in Canta vs other system locations (Settings > Apps, Play Store app).

N.b. I am not claiming there's necessarily a bug here, just puzzling behaviors which may have perfectly rational explanations!

1. Immediately after installing Canta, it already showed one app in the 'disabled' part of its UI: 'Private Space' (com.android.privatespace).

I do not use Private Space, so cannot state whether it's actually correct, but as I had not disabled it with Canta, I don't understand how it could have been pre-populated into the list. To be clear: it does show up in Settings > Apps > Show system, but is labeled 'Not installed for this user'; would the system have set it up this way and would Canta have absorbed that and mistaken it for its own work?

2. 'Google Home' (com.google.android.apps.chromecast.app) does not show up. Whether I scroll the list, or search with 'home' or 'chromecast' or just 'cast', it just doesn't show up.

After fiddling with that for a while I noticed that it was fully removable in the Play Store app, so I did it that way.

3. 'Google Pixel Buds' (com.google.android.apps.wearables.maestro.companion) is a new app they've shoved down the pipeline recently. It is likewise not visible in Canta, neither by scrolling nor searching 'bud', 'maestro', etc.

Unlike Google Home, Pixel Buds will not let me uninstall or disable, only 'uninstall updates', so I guess I can revert it to the oldest buggiest version they shoved down, but can't get rid of it. I do not and will never own Pixel Buds (hardware), so I particularly resent this sort of forced post-sale bloatware :(

To Reproduce

1. immediately post-install of Canta, see if Private Space (or any other surprise) is already in the trashed column

2. try to find 'Google Home' or 'Pixel Buds' in the to-trash column

Version info

• Android version: 16 'CP1A.260305.018'
• Canta version: 3.2.2
• Shizuku version: 13.6.0.r1086.2650830c

Logcat
absolutely nothing of any interest.

[filbo]

aaand... regarding 'Pixel Buds', I had searched for it over and over in Canta, including multiple times while writing the bugreport. During that time I allowed the Play Store update nagger to finish updating it to newer version. Then rechecked in Canta and it still wasn't there. Then killed and restarted Canta and it still wasn't there.

So I submitted the report. Then went into Canta one more time and... now 'Pixel Buds' is there! So I immediately trashed it, no trouble.

Apparent lesson: there is some sort of unexpected latency between finalized install according to Play Store app, and visibility in Canta.

This does not in any way explain the situation with Google Home, which was pre-installed on the phone for months before I ever installed Canta.

So there is no practical issue here, just small mysteries:

1. 'Private Space' was already in some odd disabled state, I don't need it enabled, am just fuzzled that Canta thought it did it

2. 'Google Home' was never visible, but Play Store let me delete it, so no big deal

3. 'Pixel Buds' didn't show up in Canta even when restarted after allowing its shoved install to finalize. But then it did after a delay, so I trashed it.

[Mickmick21]

User apps are hidden by default, there's normally no use of removing user apps with canta because it only disables them.

[samolego]

Canta checks which apps have been uninstalled for the user and automatically shows them. Some systems come with uninstalled apps, but present in the system.

with canta because it only disables them.
Canta actually uninstalls the application, for current user only. It's not the same as disabling.

[filbo]

Ok, then as a user experience enhancement request: please distinguish between apps which were already disabled (by the system or whatever -- you have no way of knowing if it was manual adb or what) -- and apps disabled by canta. i.e. at your install time, survey and note already-disabled apps, mark them differently in your data, and in the display.

[filbo]

User apps are hidden by default, there's normally no use of removing user apps with canta because it only disables them.

Canta seems to show user apps just fine.

I'm looking to Canta (and its upstream data source) as a source of advice on removing / disabling apps. I don't know or care which apps I might disable are 'system' or not, as long as they aren't doing anything useful for me, and are thought to be safe to disable.

[filbo]

To put that in further context: Canta didn't have anything to say about 'Pixel Buds', which is not surprising since that app is pretty new. On the face of it, it's probably 'just' a user-level app that I have zero interest in.

BUT. I will check back, some months later, and see -- perhaps the Canta entry by then will have some advice like 'watch out, disabling this interferes with operation of all bluetooth audio, not just Google's brand'. Because, just because a new app Google shoved down onto the device has some user-readable name, doesn't mean it behaves exactly like the name might suggest.