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Solid Project: Solid Team

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Participation and Code of Conduct

Scribes

  • Jackson Morgan
  • Virginia

Topics

Meeting time

VB: Exceptionally we'll keep this time today but reminder it will be an hour earlier next month.

  • VB: We were using CET and now we're using UTC.
  • VB: Alain and Vincent own the calendar invite

Repo security policy

URL: solid/process#310

VB: Proposed by SC.

  • VB: The issue was raised by Pete Edwards. He's suggesting that we add security.md to other repositories as best practice. There are two questions:

  • Is there a single communication for all repos for security concerns?

  • What is the process around managing this communication channel?

ACTION: VB to remind ppl to add comments on the issue above directly.

Start a translations project

URL: #25

  • VB: I volunteer to lead efforts.
  • VB: We've had several volunteers for Spanish translations. I've volunteered to lead the project since I have experience in translations.
  • VB: I'll need a repository, but I don't have access to create it.
  • VB: I think we need to revise the roles to be sure that the role they've been assigned still makes sense.
  • VB: I will ask who is available to review and do quality checks. We have had people volunteering to translate without us having a call. The strategy would be to let someone who has technical knowledge to review and see which items are good candidates.
  • OO: Would this be for SolidProject.org or other things?
  • VB: People are volunteering for anything, but SolidProject.org is a good start.
  • OO: I have a lot questions there. I16n is a good initiative, but I'd like to think of well-scoped goals so that it doesn't become a dead initiative.
  • JZ: If we're translating the website then we need an ongoing committment to keep it current. Getting spec reviewers would be a bit difficult. And then thirdly. How do we get applications to be internationalized.
  • VB: We'll probably create at chat room for internationalization. I will submit a proposal in the issues.

Make sure the solidproject.org home page has pointers to all the relevant github organizations now we have split them, explaining the relationships

URL: changes are recorded at #24

  • VB: Proposed by TBL.

  • TBL: If people are looking for code to contribute to, we need to have a list of repos. We used to say "go to the solid github" but now it's a lot more complicated. There's nowhere with a list, so we need to do it on our website.

  • JM: Makes sense. Have a page on the website that lists all the repos involved.

  • TBL: We should have a sidebar on the homepage.

  • JM: We used to have Creators.

  • JZ: I'm a creator as well, and all I've done is if someone submits a PR, I'll review it and merge it, but the creators have not met as a group. There's no plan for a website I'm aware of, so it makes sense to have a creators meeting and reviving that.

  • OO: Can you loop me in to the creators? We can make sure that the the right people are getting involved on the Inrupt side.

  • JZ: Virginia has a role in the creators to update the Translations TBL: Useful to have creators for emergencies/problems.

  • OO: We need to do role reviews every six months or so. Inrupt has people with expertise who can be of service to revamping the website.

  • JZ: You should be a creator!

  • OO: It'd be Geocities 1995.

  • TBL: enthusiastic thumbs up

ACTION: Jeff to assemble the creators and add Oz in the process then tell Jackson so he can update the roles.

ACTION: Jeff to tackle the extra page that mentions split out repos as from #24.

New Roles for Authentication

  • VB: It would be useful for someone to evaluate existing roles and positions and write up a proposal.
  • JM: I will make a proposal for new roles.
  • TBL: : We've got a copied group at https://solidproject.solidcommunity.net

ACTION: JM to see about all the roles we currently have and make a proposal that reflects the current situation better.

Solid World Submissions

  • JM: Proposed by Jackson Morgan
  • JM: Are submissions checked/seen by those checking that channel? If not being seen, should we take down the form? Otherwise confusing. Process?
  • VB: We should have an open process to review Solid world submissions, more transparent so people are not discouraged.
  • OO: All the submissions are generally being reviewed. Historically, we've tried to do themes. If a talk doesn't blend in with a theme of other talks it stays on the list until there is a time the talk has been selected.
  • TBL: The most exciting thing is community updates. Learning what's new on a community basis. Anything that shows there's progress is fun.
  • TT: I want to make an unpopular statement. How about we don't do Solid world anymore under the Solid organization, but leave Inrupt to do the event. On the events page, we still have the obligation to record all the events that happen in the world.
  • VB: I don't think it's a bad idea. I think if we do that it should be very clear that it is an Inrupt event. Like label it as "Inrupt Solid World." If we keep it as a Solid event, then we need a more clear/transparent process to deciding the theme.
  • KOB: To be honest, I haven't looked at the typeform for a couple weeks. So, the process is I try to get cohesive monthly themes together. People want to hear news about thing like the BBC adopting Solid. That submission form is still the way to submit things. I'm trying to get the newsletter back up and running. I'm sure it's been hard to find because we don't have a channel to communicate.
  • KOB: I don't know what we would get out of rebranding it an Inrupt thing. If it's an Inrupt webinar, it's going to look different every month. But, the point is to highlight the most interesting stuff in the Solid community.
  • VB: I think those two things are not at odds. We can still organize an event. We'd just make it clear that it's Solid World organized by Inrupt.
  • OO: With the recent announcement Tim made about having parts of the specification moving to a working group, this sounds very much like a community group thing. Now that things are moving to a W3C entity, we may have more bandwidth to have more events. With specification stuff moving to the W3C.
  • TBL: I worry about calling it "Solid World run by Inrupt." We've had problems about people assuming that things are arranged behind closed doors organized by Inrupt. We need to have people giving talks about new ideas. Maybe we could have more hackathons and meetups.
  • OO: My proposal would be to kick this question three months. The new charter for the community group will become more clear.
  • VB: I have a question for Tim. Don't you think making it explicit who's running it is good?
  • TBL: Well, I don't want it run behind closed doors. I think the control over the content should be Solid.
  • VB: I agree with Tim that I'd rather have it run by the Solid Organization, but we need a transparent process.
  • JZ: I suppose that one way it could look like is you bring the proposals in so that at least we have a say over it.
  • TT: I just want to clarify that this forum should not run Solid World because 1) We have a lot of things to do. We don't keep up the the most basic things which is talking about roles. We want to clean shop a bit.
  • TBL: If you're worried about load on the Solid Team specifically. You're saying that we the people in this meeting don't get around to everything we do, so we can't handle this. So maybe we need a Solid PR/Communications group.
  • KOB: We do have communications. solid/process#284. And that is my role in the Solid Team. We could have that if that's approved.
  • JM: What gives the Working Group more capacity?
  • OO: it is not capacity but it is focus: now it is doing to much. The oversight is going to be done by W3C (ex: oversee panels and writing it all up). It is not about etting more ppl but it is about doing less work.

CONCLUSION: readress it in 3 months again after we see the influence of the Working Group.

Transfer DevOps access of SolidProject.org to Inrupt

  • JM: Proposed by Jackson
  • OO: We are still in the process to reach out to Justin.

Third Party app access update

#31

  • JM: there are still a lot of ppl who did not respond to my emails. Should the process be that if they do not reply longer, I just remove the 3rd party aps or don't touch them?

  • TBL: move them to solid contrib

  • TT: make a section on the page named archived or old.