most activities "failed to start"

[chriistoph]

Hello,

on my fedora 40 python class live usb stick I have running "sugar desktop environment" v0.121 . Most of the activities arent working at all and get stuck in startup with screen message "[name of activity] failed to start" . I tried to get older version of fedora and or sugar but that didnt worked for me.

Can someone give me guidance or any help how to solve this issue?

Many thanks in advance,
Christoph

[chimosky]

Could you paste the logs from ~/.sugar/default/logs/*.log?

Most of the activities in f40 had failed to build from source, this is probably a result of that.

[chriistoph]

Thank you @chimosky I appreaciate your help!

sugar_logs.zip

Nice regards,
Christoph

[chimosky]

Could you just paste the errors here?

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On Wed, Sep 18, 2024, 20:55 chriistoph ***@***.***> wrote: Thank you @chimosky <https://github.com/chimosky> I appreaciate your help! sugar_logs.zip <https://github.com/user-attachments/files/17049572/sugar_logs.zip> sugar_logs.zip <https://github.com/user-attachments/files/17049572/sugar_logs.zip> sugar_logs.zip <https://github.com/user-attachments/files/17049572/sugar_logs.zip> here is my onedrive link from the zipped .log files https://1drv.ms/u/s!AopV7JbJ5IBSg-MBHyUwvNXp1iwLfg?e=o4CDEu Nice regards, Christoph — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#990 (comment)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AD3UAOW3BBHGWKNPQXBRVBLZXHLEBAVCNFSM6AAAAABON5T7LCVHI2DSMVQWIX3LMV43OSLTON2WKQ3PNVWWK3TUHMZDGNJZGI4TCNJQGY> . You are receiving this because you were mentioned.Message ID: ***@***.***>

[chriistoph]

Apparently there are no errors I can see. Its loading until message e.g.

"Letter Match failed to to start"

and the log file is empty. You can see in the zipped .log files , most of them doesnt give me some information.

Can you recommend some fedora version where most activities are working fine?

[quozl]

In your logs, Terminal failed to start due to changes in Python ConfigParser. Shell logs show you downloaded and installed many activity bundles, some of which I know won't work because they have not been maintained and are only compatible with very old releases of Sugar from about ten years ago. There was also a reference to 0sugar/launch, something that is quite incompatible and hasn't been used for about 15 years. Tell us what method you used to choose activity bundles for download? Thanks!

[chriistoph]

Most of the activities are downloaded from
https://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/

Later I discovered some default defined webpage in the sugar browser, where less activities were listed.
https://v4.activities.sugarlabs.org
most of them worked, but sad most of the desired ones prev discovered arent listed.

[quozl]

Okay, thanks. Don't use https://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/ as these are Python 2 activities for older vintage releases. https://v4.activities.sugarlabs.org/ are those currently working. Yes, it is sad, but the effort needed is more than the resources available.

[chriistoph]

So there is no way to use older versions of sugar and fedora ?

[quozl]

You can use old fedora with old sugar, but incompatibilities arise, and security vulnerabilities are not fixed. The most recent Python 2 and 3 mixed build was OLPC OS based on Ubuntu 20.04. https://wiki.laptop.org/go/20.04.0

[chriistoph]

Okay, thank you very much .
Can you also show how / where to download older 0.117 sugar versions ?

[chimosky]

Fedora archives contain images from F25, that's older than 0.117 - that should be F32 -.

[chriistoph]

I accomplished your suggestion with olpc-os-20.04.0-1587711417.iso and its running with sugar 0.117.
Anyway, I tried to change some random activity "Calendar 6"
https://activities.sugarlabs.org/en-US/sugar/downloads/latest/4360/addon-4360-latest.xo?src=addondetail
to show my young ones, how to use some calendar and insert birthday dates.
Result of fixxing the errors with old GTK to new GTK3 and some other fixes with ChatGPT help werent successfull.

I know its again not the default OLPC OS 20.04 Activities from the browser
http://dev.laptop.org/pub/us/activities/focal/
but there are 5 or 6 activities and not very satisfying.

So as I struggled now some more time again and start to think its not the best easy way to show my young ones computer usage. Do you have any further suggestions or advice?

Many thank in advance and thank you for your already offered help!

[walterbender]

It would be helpful feedback to know what old activities might merit porting to Python 3 and the new sugar toolkit.

[chriistoph]

I got some self created activity game running on python3 and GTK3.0, but the old ubuntu version has some issues and I could not install ubuntu software.

Can someone give me the prefered OS system where I run sugar desktop ? The Fedora 40 was event not stable for the terminal activity. Latest sugar version?

Many thanks,
Christoph

[quozl]

I'm not surprised. I've not seen anyone do end to end testing for a while. It's bit rot.