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Transcript — identity — 2026-08-20 14:45:14

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We are evaluating how Workforce Direct, Tyler Identity (TID), and Tyler products integrated with the TID Gateway should handle user lifecycle changes originating from an external Identity Provider (IdP).

Current Scenario

Workforce Direct supports customers using external IdPs.

Users authenticate to Tyler products through the TID Gateway, which federates authentication to the customer's external IdP.

For example, CloudGavel is integrated with the TID Gateway for SSO. This allows a user managed in an external IdP to authenticate to CloudGavel through TID.

Requirement

We now need to understand how user lifecycle events from the customer's external IdP can be propagated to TID and subsequently to Tyler products such as CloudGavel.

Specifically, if a user is:

Created in the external IdP

Updated in the external IdP, such as changes to name, email, roles, or other attributes

Deactivated or deleted in the external IdP

how will TID become aware of these changes, and how can TID communicate or propagate the corresponding lifecycle event to products integrated with the TID Gateway?

For example:

External IdP → Workforce Direct / TID → TID Gateway → CloudGavel

If a user is deactivated in the customer's IdP, we would expect that user to also be deactivated or have access revoked in CloudGavel. Similarly, user creation and profile updates should be reflected in CloudGavel where applicable.

Key Questions

What mechanism does Workforce Direct/TID use to receive user lifecycle changes from an external IdP?

Does TID support a provisioning standard such as SCIM, event/webhook-based synchronization, periodic synchronization, or another mechanism?

Does TID maintain a representation of externally managed users, or is the TID Gateway responsible only for authentication/federation?

Once TID receives a create, update, or deactivate event, how is that information exposed to downstream Tyler products?

Is there an API, event, webhook, or provisioning interface that CloudGavel can consume to synchronize its local user records?

How should deprovisioning work to ensure that disabling a user in the external IdP also prevents that user from accessing CloudGavel?

Which system should be considered the source of truth for user lifecycle state: the external IdP, Workforce Direct, or TID?

Ultimately, we are trying to determine the recommended architecture for keeping user accounts synchronized across:

Customer External IdP → Workforce Direct/TID → Tyler Products using the TID Gateway

while ensuring that authentication and user provisioning/deprovisioning remain consistent.

Let me search the TID knowledge base for information about user lifecycle management, external IdP integration, and provisioning capabilities.

Based on the TID knowledge base, I can now provide you with comprehensive answers about user lifecycle management with external IdPs.

## Simple Answer

**TID handles user lifecycle changes from external IdPs through Identity Events**, not real-time provisioning. When you use **Workforce Direct** with external IdPs, TID doesn't sync user accounts in advance. Instead:

- **Authentication is federated** – Users authenticate directly with their external IdP through the TID Gateway
- **User profiles are created just-in-time** – The first time a user logs in, TID receives their profile from the IdP
- **Lifecycle events are published** – When users are created, updated, disabled, or deleted in TID, events are published that downstream products like CloudGavel can subscribe to
- **The external IdP remains the source of truth** – TID doesn't maintain a full user directory; it's a federation broker

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## Technical Details

### **Key Architectural Points**

**The TID Gateway's Primary Role:**
The Gateway is primarily an **authentication federation router**, not a user provisioning system. It:
- Routes authentication requests to the correct customer IdP based on `organizationKey` or `workspaceKey`
- Issues JWT tokens containing user claims from the IdP
- Manages sessions across Tyler applications

**User Representation:**
TID does maintain a lightweight representation of users, but this is created through:
1. **First login (JIT provisioning)** – User authenticates → IdP returns claims → TID creates user record
2. **Manual creation in Admin Center** – For Workforce Direct organizations, admins can pre-create users
3. **Profile updates during login** – Each authentication updates the user's profile from IdP claims

### **Answering Your Specific Questions**

#### **1. Mechanism for Receiving Lifecycle Changes**

**TID does NOT support inbound SCIM or webhook-based provisioning from external IdPs.** The current architecture relies on:

- **Authentication-driven updates**: User profile changes are detected when users authenticate (IdP returns updated claims)
- **Manual management**: Administrators create/disable users through Admin Center for Workforce Direct organizations

#### **2. Provisioning Standards**

**No inbound SCIM support is documented.** The platform uses:
- **SAML 2.0** or **OIDC** for authentication federation
- **Attribute/claim mapping** to extract user profile data during authentication
- **Event-driven architecture** for outbound synchronization

#### **3. User Representation in TID**

Yes, TID maintains user records, but they are:
- **Lightweight** – Primarily identity information (sub, email, name, username)
- **Synchronized through authentication** – Updated when users log in
- **Managed in Admin Center** – For Workforce Direct, users can be created/disabled manually

**The Gateway is responsible for:**
- Authentication federation
- Token issuance
- Session management

**It does NOT:**
- Store passwords (those remain with the external IdP)
- Handle MFA directly (delegated to IdP)
- Provide a full user provisioning API

#### **4. Downstream Product Integration**

**TID publishes Identity Events that products consume.** According to the documentation:

**Available Workforce Events:**
- `workforce-user-created` – Published when user created in Admin Center or via first login
- `workforce-user-disabled` – Published when user disabled in Admin Center
- `workforce-user-enabled` – Published when user re-enabled
- `workforce-user-profile-changed` – Published when user attributes change
- `workforce-user-deleted` – Published when user removed

**Important limitation:** *"Workforce events are only published for Organizations that are using Workforce Direct."*

**Event Payload Example (User Disabled):**
```json
{
  "messageType": "workforce-user-disabled",
  "sub": "5xieRMfpq3ha7Z8PjIoTD8tS",
  "organizationKey": "mycivicid",
  "username": "test.two@mycivicid.com",
  "givenName": "Test",
  "familyName": "Two",
  "email": "test.two@mycivicid.com"
}

5. CloudGavel Integration

CloudGavel should:

Subscribe to Identity Events through the Tyler Cloud Platform event system
Implement event handlers for:
- workforce-user-created → Create local user record
- workforce-user-profile-changed → Update local user attributes
- workforce-user-disabled → Disable or revoke access
- workforce-user-deleted → Remove or archive user
Validate tokens on each request to ensure user is still active
Optionally call APIs to retrieve additional user context

No direct webhook or SCIM interface exists for products to receive lifecycle events synchronously.

6. Deprovisioning Architecture

The recommended approach for handling disabled users:

Immediate Enforcement:

Token validation – CloudGavel validates the JWT signature and claims on every request
Short token lifetime – Access tokens typically expire in 1 hour
Refresh token revocation – When a user is disabled, refresh tokens should be invalidated

Event-Based Synchronization:

User disabled in external IdP
Administrator disables user in Admin Center (manual step required currently)
TID publishes workforce-user-disabled event
CloudGavel receives event and marks user as inactive
Next authentication attempt fails (user disabled in TID)
Existing tokens expire within 1 hour

Gap in Current Architecture: There's no automatic synchronization from external IdP → TID. An administrator must:

Monitor the external IdP for user status changes
Manually disable users in Admin Center
OR wait for the user's next authentication attempt (which will fail if IdP rejects)

Authentication Failure Handling:

If a user is disabled/deleted in the external IdP, their next login attempt through TID Gateway will fail
The IdP will reject authentication
TID will not issue tokens
Existing sessions and tokens remain valid until expiration

7. Source of Truth

External IdP is the source of truth for:

User authentication credentials
User active/inactive status (enforced at login time)
Profile attributes (name, email, etc.)

Workforce Direct/TID is the source of truth for:

User presence in Tyler ecosystem
Tyler-specific user metadata
Organizational assignments
Product access permissions

Products like CloudGavel are the source of truth for:

Application-specific roles and permissions
Product-specific user data
Business logic around access control

Recommended Architecture

Here's the recommended flow for keeping user accounts synchronized:

User Creation

External IdP → User attempts login → TID Gateway (JIT user creation) 
→ TID publishes workforce-user-created → CloudGavel creates local user

User Updates

External IdP → User logs in with updated attributes → TID detects changes 
→ TID publishes workforce-user-profile-changed → CloudGavel updates local user

User Deprovisioning

External IdP (user disabled) → Admin disables in Admin Center 
→ TID publishes workforce-user-disabled → CloudGavel disables local user
→ Next login attempt fails → Existing tokens expire (1 hour)

Key Implementation Steps for CloudGavel

Subscribe to Identity Events
- Obtain identity client credentials for the Gateway
- Subscribe to workforce events for your organization
- Implement event handlers
Implement JIT User Creation
- On first authentication, create local user from token claims
- Store sub claim as the stable user identifier
- Map organizationKey and workspaceKey for context
Handle Profile Updates
- Listen for workforce-user-profile-changed events
- Update local user records based on event payload
- Consider caching with TTL to reduce database load
Enforce Deactivation
- Listen for workforce-user-disabled events
- Immediately mark user as inactive in local database
- Reject API requests from disabled users (check local state)
- Tokens will fail validation naturally after expiration
Token Validation on Every Request
- Validate JWT signature using JWKS
- Check expiration and standard claims
- Optionally check local user status for immediate enforcement

Gaps and Limitations

Current limitations to be aware of:

No inbound SCIM/automated provisioning – Changes in external IdP require manual action in Admin Center
No real-time deprovisioning – Token revocation happens at expiry (typically 1 hour)
Manual intervention required – Administrators must disable users in Admin Center when they're removed from the IdP
Profile updates only on login – Attribute changes aren't detected until next authentication
Events are TID-originated – Events reflect changes made in TID (Admin Center), not directly from external IdP

These are architectural characteristics of the current Workforce Direct solution.

Documentation References

For more details, see:

Identity Events Overview – Event types and use cases
Identity Workforce Getting Started – Integration fundamentals
Glossary – Key terminology and concepts

Would you like specific guidance on implementing event subscriptions in CloudGavel, or do you need to understand token validation patterns for immediate user deactivation enforcement?


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