Cannot find VSCodium on Bazaar

[jzabulenas]

After installing Aurora on my laptop, I was surprised to find out that VSCodium cannot be found on Bazaar.

At first I thought it was a bug - no problem, installed it using flatpak CLI. But then I noticed a lot of IDEs are missing from Bazaar.

On my desktop I use Bazzite, and I installed the VSCodium flatpak using Bazaar there. I do fullstack development using Java, and then some, and have no issues.

I guess the motivation is to make the users either switch to Aurora DX (which comes with Visual Studio Code) or use Homebrew for installing IDEs, as the integration with the system may be more seamless then.

But that still does not make much sense to me, as I am able to do a lot of development using the flatpak version of VSCodium, and have no problems.

I just don't see the clear vision why would you hide this IDE, or really and IDE, from Bazaar.

[renner0e]

VSCodium cannot be found on Bazaar.

We block it because the flatpak packaging is broken. General Rationale here: #786. We don't want to maintain/block anything in this regard.

But then I noticed a lot of IDEs are missing from Bazaar.

they unfortunately have the same problem due to these applications not being made with a sandbox like flatpak in mind. Maybe things will change on that front, at least for vscode, who knows.

I guess the motivation is to make the users either switch to Aurora DX (which comes with Visual Studio Code) or use Homebrew for installing IDEs

yes, or ujust bbrew -> IDE

I just don't see the clear vision why would you hide this IDE, or really and IDE, from Bazaar.

I don't use vscode/codium myself but last I checked the flatpak had issues with containers specifically, can you use it fine as a "text editor"? Yes, probably.

On my desktop I use Bazzite, and I installed the VSCodium flatpak using Bazaar there.

You did in fact not install the flatpak version of vscodium (and other IDEs) on bazzite via bazaar. Bazaar will tell you this (and you might have missed this) when you installed it, but what it actually does is execute a hook or call it a plugin provided by bazzite that installs it via brew that is hosted in our ublue-os/homebrew tap, which does not suffer from the same restrictions, as it's not sandboxed.

So why does Aurora not do the same thing as Bazzite you might ask?
I personally am not really comfortable bringing this into Aurora as I'm simply not very experienced with python, and when the hooks inevitably break one day, then I don't know how to fix them. If somebody PRs those changes and knows how to fix them when they break, that help would be greatly appreciated.

[jzabulenas]

I don't use vscode/codium myself but last I checked the flatpak had issues with containers specifically, can you use it fine as a "text editor"? Yes, probably.

I don't use Dev Containers either, but I could imagine it not working, as you are not able to access Podman/Docker CLI through the faltpak sandboxed environment, as it is. Maybe there is a way, but I could imagine that being problematic.

You did in fact not install the flatpak version of vscodium (and other IDEs) on bazzite via bazaar. Bazaar will tell you this (and you might have missed this) when you installed it, but what it actually does is execute a hook or call it a plugin provided by bazzite that installs it via brew that is hosted in our ublue-os/homebrew tap, which does not suffer from the same restrictions, as it's not sandboxed.

I did install the flatpak version. I can see it installed on my computer by executing flatpak list. The hook for VSCodium was introduced in March, while I have installed the program through Bazaar way earlier.

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Let's imagine a newcomer using Aurora for the first time. They search Bazaar for their favorite IDE and are not able to find it. I think that would leave a bad taste in their mouth, unless there was some kind of notification saying that they should install that particular program with Homebrew. Because the experience I had definitely left me scratching my head, and I use Linux for many moons.

As you mentioned about bbrew, I did find information relating to it in docs (actually, a blog post), that I could install VSCodium with it. However, I think it would be easier for new users to see a message such as "You may install this program with bbrew" directly in Bazaar, when searching for a app, IDE in this case. Something like that.

PS It's not a big deal that I cannot install the flatpak version through Bazaar, I can just use the CLI to do it.