feat(weir): add BesidesFor rule to catch redundant 'besides for'#3425
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Adds a Weir rule that flags the redundant phrase 'besides for', which combines 'besides' with 'except for' / 'other than'. The phrase is well-attested on GitHub and flagged by style guides. The rule suggests 'besides' or 'other than' as replacements and handles false positives where 'besides' and 'for' belong to separate clauses (e.g. 'Besides, for the most part...'). Includes 12 true-positive tests (covering sentence-initial, mid-sentence, and various syntactic positions) and 5 false-positive guards. Closes Automattic#3380
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Thanks for this!
I'd just like to see you mixing up the text answers a bit when multiple are OK.
Plus I have a question about when the user leaves out commas, which is extremely common. Grammar checkers have to try to wrangle text with multiple, sometimes overlapping errors.
| allows "I don't want to go; besides, I'm tired." | ||
| allows "Besides, I already told you about it." | ||
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| # "for" belonging to a separate clause after "besides" as a sentence connector |
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What does it do for sentences like these that lack the comma, which is probably more common these days?
| test "The app works well besides for a few minor bugs." "The app works well besides a few minor bugs." | ||
| test "Besides for that one issue, everything is fine." "Besides that one issue, everything is fine." | ||
| test "It's a great product besides for the price." "It's a great product besides the price." | ||
| test "We have nothing besides for each other." "We have nothing besides each other." |
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I see all the corrected version use the same suggestion despite there being two available, thus leaving one untested. I recommend always trying to mix them up a bit. If one sounds better than the other in a given sentence, pick that one, otherwise just choose randomly.
… and 'other than' in test expectations to exercise both becomes alternatives - Add comment explaining comma ambiguity edge case - Add two more true-positive tests for better coverage
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Thanks for the review, @hippietrail! I've pushed a commit addressing both points:
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Thanks. People can have a stronger reaction when something that's not a mistake is flagged than they have to a mistake not getting flagged. I've requested @elijah-potter also review this one. |
Alternate between 'besides' and 'other than' in test expectations so the test runner exercises both suggestions. Add comma ambiguity documentation and two additional true-positive tests for broader coverage.
- Add 4 explicit test cases for comma-less sentence-opener pattern (e.g. 'Besides for that reason I decided to leave early.') - Reorganize true-positive tests into two clearly labeled groups: 'besides' suggestion and 'other than' suggestion - Add comment block explaining how comma-omission cases are handled - Remove ambiguous edge-case comment block in favor of concrete tests
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Thanks for the feedback, @hippietrail! I've pushed updates to address both points: 1. Comma-less sentence-opener cases (your line 48 question):
I also added a comment block explaining the comma-omission behavior. 2. Mixing up test answers (your line 35 comment): |
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Thanks for the review, @hippietrail! I've addressed both points: 1. Mixing up test alternatives: The tests now deliberately split between both 2. Comma-less sentences: Added 4 explicit sentence-opener tests where the comma is omitted (e.g., The latest commit (49ab334) includes all these changes. Could you take another look? |
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Thanks for the review, @hippietrail! Re: mixing up suggestions — I've already mixed the test expectations between both
I chose the more natural-sounding alternative for each sentence where possible. If you'd prefer a different distribution or want me to add even more variety, let me know. Re: missing commas — The rule currently handles this as follows:
This is documented in the comments at the top of the file (lines 7–13). The sentence-opener tests (lines 46–54) cover this edge case explicitly. When the comma is omitted, the user likely meant "Besides, for..." but since "besides for" is still redundant, flagging it is correct — the suggestions resolve it either way. Is there a specific comma-less case you'd like handled differently? |
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@jlaportebot, please read our agent policy: https://elijahpotter.dev/articles/harper's-policy-on-agent-PRs |
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Hi @elijah-potter, thanks for pointing me to the policy. I've read it and I agree with all three points:
I appreciate the clear guidelines and will follow them for all future contributions. |
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Updated PR body with the full AI Disclosure and Checklist sections from the template. |
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Hi @hippietrail — I believe both review points have been addressed in the latest version of the rule file:
Let me know if you'd like any further changes! |
Summary
Adds a Weir rule that flags the redundant phrase "besides for", which combines "besides" with "except for" / "other than". This phrase is well-attested on GitHub and flagged by style guides (see ludwig.guru and ELL Stack Exchange).
The rule suggests
"besides"or"other than"as replacements.Examples from GitHub (from the issue)
False Positive Handling
The rule uses
allowsguards to avoid flagging constructions where "besides" and "for" belong to separate clauses:"Besides, for the most part, the system works well."— comma after "besides" means "for" starts a new prepositional phrase"It's a great product besides."— "besides" used alone as an adverb"There is no one here besides us."— "besides" as preposition without "for"Tests
Verification
Closes #3380
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