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Hi Thomas, I was also working on the same test and subsequent issues. I attach here my tests, but from a quick view, it is just a simpler version of yours. using Test
using SymmetricTightBinding, Crystalline
using Crystalline: free
@testset "Symmetry analysis" begin
for D in 1:2
for sgnum in 1:MAX_SGNUM[D]
@testset "Space group $sgnum in dimension $D" begin
brs = calc_bandreps(sgnum, Val(D))
for i in eachindex(brs)
iszero(free(position(brs[i]))) || continue # skip EBRs with non-zero free parts
# TODO: consider upgrading this test
# brs with non-zero free parts
# using `pin_free`
@testset "Band representation $(brs[i])" begin
coefs = zeros(length(brs))
coefs[i] = 1
cbr = CompositeBandRep(coefs, brs)
tbm = tb_hamiltonian(cbr)
ptbm = tbm(randn(length(tbm)))
v = SymmetryVector(cbr)
v_model = collect_compatible(ptbm)
@test v == v_model[1] # check that the symmetry vector is compatible with the model
end # @testset "Band representation $brs[i]"
end # for br in brs
end # @testset "Space group $sgnum in dimension $D"
end # for sgnum in MAX_SGNUM[D]
end # for D in 1:3
end # @testset "Symmetry analysis"I am working on PG number 13 and BR (1c|A). It seems a pretty simple case, and it just fails on on-site terms, which is quite surprising. I will update here my findings. |
One thought I had is that the site symmetry irreps we compute may be wrong in some way. Or, rather, I have a question: before our new insights on the phase factor term |
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Here's a few observations:
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Hi Thomas, sorry for the long absence. The TMS was intense, and I didn't find much time to work. I am returning to the projects slowly. I have been working on this issue all afternoon, and I haven't found a proper conclusion. It is unpleasant since I do think my theoretical computations seem alright, at least I have been through them a lot of times. About your observations, I agree that taking the complex conjugate kills a bunch of issues, and I also experienced that taking -G instead of G solves a bunch. However, I don't know why we should. About numbers 2 and 3, I don't think it is a source of trouble since we are consistent with our convention, and I did by hand a couple of cases, and they do not work. I think tomorrow I will focus on PR #91 and issue #74, which is deeper and could also be a source of problems here. After solving it, I will come back here. |
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About #89 (comment), I don't agree with your vision. In fact, it is what I faced on plane group 13 with BR (1c|A). This is a really simple case where the space group representation is always the identity, i.e., |
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One possibility is this: The associated code which is affected is this (signs are wrong in front of SymmetricTightBinding.jl/src/types.jl Lines 418 to 426 in 41548c2 Let's test what happens if we fix this. |
…rier phase Two-part fix for the symmetry analysis bug identified in PR #89: 1. **Symmetry eigenvalues** (`symmetry_analysis.jl`): Fix Θ_G sign (use conj(Θ_G) to match Cano et al. trace convention) and add global phase correction `e^{+4πi(gk)·v}` to compensate for the conjugated translation phase in Crystalline.jl's `calc_bandreps` (cf. Crystalline.jl issue #12). 2. **Hamiltonian Fourier phase** (`types.jl`, `gradients.jl`): Correct from `e^{+ik·δ}` to `e^{-ik·δ}` (Convention 1), matching the corrected theory.md derivation. Update momentum gradient sign accordingly. Remaining known failures (SG 68, 88, 141, 142, 214, 220, 230) are pre-existing centered-lattice issues in Crystalline.jl, documented in the new devdoc. Also: - Rewrite symmetry_analysis tests with deterministic RNG seed and @test_broken for known failures - Update stopgap tests: SG 13/14 EBRs now pass - Mark Haldane model comparison test as @test_broken (needs coefficient update) - Update show.jl expected strings for new print format - Add detailed devdoc on the convention mismatch and fix Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…rier phase Two-part fix for the symmetry analysis bug identified in PR #89: 1. **Symmetry eigenvalues** (`symmetry_analysis.jl`): Fix Θ_G sign (use conj(Θ_G) to match Cano et al. trace convention) and add global phase correction `e^{+4πi(gk)·v}` to compensate for the conjugated translation phase in Crystalline.jl's `calc_bandreps` (cf. Crystalline.jl issue #12). 2. **Hamiltonian Fourier phase** (`types.jl`, `gradients.jl`): Correct from `e^{+ik·δ}` to `e^{-ik·δ}` (Convention 1), matching the corrected theory.md derivation. Update momentum gradient sign accordingly. Remaining known failures (SG 68, 88, 141, 142, 214, 220, 230) are pre-existing centered-lattice issues in Crystalline.jl, documented in the new devdoc. Also: - Rewrite symmetry_analysis tests with deterministic RNG seed and @test_broken for known failures - Update stopgap tests: SG 13/14 EBRs now pass - Mark Haldane model comparison test as @test_broken (needs coefficient update) - Update show.jl expected strings for new print format - Add detailed devdoc on the convention mismatch and fix Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…rier phase Two-part fix for the symmetry analysis bug identified in PR #89: 1. **Symmetry eigenvalues** (`symmetry_analysis.jl`): Fix Θ_G sign (use conj(Θ_G) to match Cano et al. trace convention) and add global phase correction `e^{+4πi(gk)·v}` to compensate for the conjugated translation phase in Crystalline.jl's `calc_bandreps` (cf. Crystalline.jl issue #12). 2. **Hamiltonian Fourier phase** (`types.jl`, `gradients.jl`): Correct from `e^{+ik·δ}` to `e^{-ik·δ}` (Convention 1), matching the corrected theory.md derivation. Update momentum gradient sign accordingly. Remaining known failures (SG 68, 88, 141, 142, 214, 220, 230) are pre-existing centered-lattice issues in Crystalline.jl, documented in the new devdoc. Also: - Rewrite symmetry_analysis tests with deterministic RNG seed and @test_broken for known failures - Update stopgap tests: SG 13/14 EBRs now pass - Mark Haldane model comparison test as @test_broken (needs coefficient update) - Update show.jl expected strings for new print format - Add detailed devdoc on the convention mismatch and fix Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com>
…rier phase Two-part fix for the symmetry analysis bug identified in PR #89: 1. **Symmetry eigenvalues** (`symmetry_analysis.jl`): Fix Θ_G sign (use conj(Θ_G) to match Cano et al. trace convention) and add global phase correction `e^{+4πi(gk)·v}` to compensate for the conjugated translation phase in Crystalline.jl's `calc_bandreps` (cf. Crystalline.jl issue #12). 2. **Hamiltonian Fourier phase** (`types.jl`, `gradients.jl`): Correct from `e^{+ik·δ}` to `e^{-ik·δ}` (Convention 1), matching the corrected theory.md derivation. Update momentum gradient sign accordingly. Remaining known failures (SG 68, 88, 141, 142, 214, 220, 230) are pre-existing centered-lattice issues in Crystalline.jl, documented in the new devdoc. Also: - Rewrite symmetry_analysis tests with deterministic RNG seed and @test_broken for known failures - Update stopgap tests: SG 13/14 EBRs now pass - Mark Haldane model comparison test as @test_broken (needs coefficient update) - Update show.jl expected strings for new print format - Add detailed devdoc on the convention mismatch and fix Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com> bump Crystalline bound to use
…rier phase Two-part fix for the symmetry analysis bug identified in PR #89: 1. **Symmetry eigenvalues** (`symmetry_analysis.jl`): Fix Θ_G sign (use conj(Θ_G) to match Cano et al. trace convention) and add global phase correction `e^{+4πi(gk)·v}` to compensate for the conjugated translation phase in Crystalline.jl's `calc_bandreps` (cf. Crystalline.jl issue #12). 2. **Hamiltonian Fourier phase** (`types.jl`, `gradients.jl`): Correct from `e^{+ik·δ}` to `e^{-ik·δ}` (Convention 1), matching the corrected theory.md derivation. Update momentum gradient sign accordingly. Remaining known failures (SG 68, 88, 141, 142, 214, 220, 230) are pre-existing centered-lattice issues in Crystalline.jl, documented in the new devdoc. Also: - Rewrite symmetry_analysis tests with deterministic RNG seed and @test_broken for known failures - Update stopgap tests: SG 13/14 EBRs now pass - Mark Haldane model comparison test as @test_broken (needs coefficient update) - Update show.jl expected strings for new print format - Add detailed devdoc on the convention mismatch and fix - Bump Crystalline compat to v0.6.24 to get `primitivize(::LGIrrep)` and `primitivize(::Collection{<:LGIrrep})` Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Superseded and mostly transferred to #104: closing in favor of that. |
Fix symmetry eigenvalue phase convention and expand symmetry analysis tests Fixes the long-standing incorrect irrep assignments from `symmetry_eigenvalues` (PR #89) and expands the symmetry analysis test suite to cover all 230 space groups. ## Symmetry eigenvalue fix (`src/symmetry_analysis.jl`) The root cause is that Crystalline.jl's `calc_bandreps` and `lgirreps` use a sign convention for character computation that is the complex conjugate of the Convention 1 derivation in `theory.md` (see Crystalline.jl issue #12). Specifically, both the Θ_G phase factor and the global translation phase in D_k carry the opposite sign. Since both factors are conjugated, the net effect is that χ_Crystalline = conj(χ_Convention1) The fix: compute the Convention 1 character χ = (Θ_G w)† D_k w directly (using positive G and the unmodified `sgrep(k)`), then return `conj(χ)`. This replaces the previous approach of two separate sign-patch corrections (a sign-flipped Θ_G and an explicit `cispi(4dot(gk,v))` phase factor), which were calibrated against a different Hamiltonian convention and were not derived from first principles. A separate centered-lattice bug is also fixed: `primitivize(::LittleGroup)` with default `modw=true` was discarding lattice vectors from translations, corrupting phases at non-Γ k-points in centered lattices. Fix: use `primitivize(::Collection{LGIrrep})` (dispatches with `modw=false`). This resolves failures in SG 68, 88, 141, 142, 214, 220, 230. ## Test suite (`test/symmetry_analysis.jl`, `test/runtests.jl`) - Rewrites the full-EBR-scan test with a deterministic RNG so results are reproducible - Extends coverage to all 230 space groups (previously only 2D plane groups) - Adds two concrete documentation examples (plane group 17) as `@test` assertions - Promotes the former stopgap `@test_broken` entries for p3/p6 to `@test` - Renames `test/symmetry_analysis_stopgap.jl` → `test/symmetry_analysis_manual.jl` ## Documentation (`docs/src/devdocs/symmetry_eigenvalue_conventions.md`) New devdoc explaining the convention mismatch, why the net effect is complex conjugation, the implemented fix, and three options for future cleanup (recommended long-term: fix Crystalline.jl issue #12 directly). ## Minor changes - `src/tightbinding.jl`: comment cleanup around the hopping/constraint matrix assembly - `src/types.jl`, `src/gradients.jl`: comment/variable name cleanup - `ext/SymmetricTightBindingMakieExt.jl`: arrow direction correction in orbit visualization - `CLAUDE.md`, `PLAN.md`: updated to reflect Phase 6 completion - `_retrying_nullspace`: some of the "large" models constructed by /test/symmetry_analysis.jl fail on CI due to the SVD decomposition erroring (probably because we have too many and redundant constraints); this can be fixed by optionally retrying with a different SVD algorithm (QR iteration)
This is really more of a test of the symmetry analysis tools than something we can merge as-is.
What this currently does it to try to build a tight-binding model for every EBR (also those with free parameters) and then tests that
collect_compatiblereturns vectors that sum to the EBR symmetry vectors. Unfortunately, there are a lot failures, suggesting that we still haven't gotten the implementation quite right.I've appended the list of remaining issues below to see them:
Summary of remaining failures (click to expand)
Plane group failures (
D = 2)Space group failures (
D = 3)The good news is that we can build a single-EBR model for every EBR across all space groups.1 The bad news is that we get the irreps wrong in quite a few cases. I doubt that it is a single problem,23 but it is probably best to start with the simplest problems, i.e., the plane group failures and then look on from there.
Footnotes
This is true except in a few notably cases: e.g., space group 220, there is an error for
brs[2]. There's also a sufficiently "bad" error at some space group number higher than 220, where we presumably overflow the memory and Julia simply terminates abruptly. ↩The reason I doubt it's a single problem is that the plane group issues presumably revolve around a wrong symmetry eigenvalue at KA / K for a 3-fold rotation. On the other hand, in space group ⋕68, the problem involves a wrong symmetry eigenvalue at T (also on at Y), under a 2-fold screw (and there is C centering in ⋕68). ↩
Note that the failure modes "
failed to collect any compatible symmetry vectors" and "symmetry vector discrepancy" probably are mostly the same: i.e., failure to calculate the correct irreps - in the former case, this failure simply leads to a collection of irreps that isn't compatibility respecting, and so our method finds no compatible vectors to return from the irrep content it computes. ↩