Nerf Hunger w/Parity For Non-Goob Species - #1622
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mb hey wait chitinids have an increased hunger rate too
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Yeah, this is fine, not sure if we are keeping the new hunger rates at all
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changed changelog to ask people to report if chitinid hunger is really fucking bad because it's not looking good for them |
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Let it rip
We will see how this feels
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toned down the hunger rebalance from 150/3600 to 90/3600 hunger per tick (originally 60/3600 pre-upstream)
changed diona, rodentia, chitinid, allulalo, avali, and scurret hunger accordingly
chitinids are only intended to be 1.33x as hungry. for some reason, they are 2.8x as hungry. i am keeping it at 2.8x hunger rate from code, as i play chitinid and i personally know how fast those creatures get hungry
should the proportional hunger rates prove unbelievably sucky for chitinids/scurrets (as they ALREADY got quite hungry pre-upstream) then a second PR can be made to change their hunger rates. i am simply making all species' hunger rates appropriate for this new hunger value
this does not change the hunger value of mobs with set hunger values who are not listed
Why / Balance
i have heard that the 2.5x increase to hunger rates has literally caused chefs to cry due to how quickly the station empties the kitchen. this is assumedly unideal, so a toning down of hunger rates should be better
we did not account for the hunger change in upstreaming, so i made species with proportional hunger rates share parity with the new hunger rate. should this prove to be Very Bad, Actually, a separate PR can go through to change how hungry that species should be
here's an interesting thing gleaned from Goob-Station/Goob-Station#6704 (the hunger/thirst rebalance PR)
the original intent is to have people experiencing hunger at about 70 minutes in. from what i can tell, chefs are sobbing because people keep eating their shit too quickly
i'm not exactly sure how this works out but that was the intent of the original PR
i believe we have a weaker nutribrick than goob (7.5 nutriment compared to assumedly goob's 10?) which may impact us more
Technical details
changed the default
BaseDecayRateinContent.Shared/Nutrition/Components/HungerComponent.csto be 1.5x pre-upstream hunger rates compared to 2.5x from upstreamaccordingly changed diona, chitinid, rodentia, allulalo, avali, and scurret hunger rates. if there wasn't a set proportion listed in the file, then i based the ratio off of the pre-upstream hunger rate compared to the species-specific hunger rate, then i used that ratio with my new hunger rate
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