Arb-persistence study + James Bond depth verdict (94/yr ceiling)#9
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Experiment 1+3 (Gamma distribution + structural ground truth): - Pulled n=2000 active markets from gamma-api.polymarket.com (4 pages × 500, ~3.5s total) - vol24hr P10/P50/P90 = $0 / $40 / $18,333 - Liquidity P10/P50/P90 = $787 / $10,138 / $221,690 - Spread P10/P50/P90 = 0.001 / 0.01 / 0.10 (present in raw Gamma — PR WW-shan#4 spec was wrong to exclude this) - 14-90d-to-resolution band = 693 markets (35%) — target range OK - Derived 10,122 mutex pairs from 171 neg-risk groups → T4 $0 corpus validated Implications: - Q1 thresholds in PR WW-shan#3 are way too high; data-driven values in report - Q4 T4 corpus problem disappears (10k+ pairs from structure alone) - PR WW-shan#4 spec needs amendment for spread availability + dead-tier rephrasing (liquidity, not volume, as P10 boundary) Raw NDJSON under data/experiments/ is gitignored; only script + report committed. Experiment 2 (OpenRouter calibration script, ~$0.001 total): - One-shot validation that Gemini Flash V2 strict prompt actually produces schema-conforming JSON with verbatim grounding - Requires OPENROUTER_API_KEY at runtime; not run yet - Will calibrate the $0.00009/call estimate in PR WW-shan#6 Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
n=5 random Polymarket markets, Gemini 2.0 Flash via OpenRouter, V2 strict prompt with verbatim grounding. Results: - schema_ok: 5/5 (100%) - grounding_ok: 5/5 (100%) — verbatim_text substring check passes on every clause across all 5 markets - Avg 2-5 clauses extracted per market, types diverse (deadline / tiebreaker / source) - Avg ambiguity_score 0.2-0.3 - Avg latency 3.2s/call Cost calibration: - Actual: $0.000214/call (5×$0.001070) - PR WW-shan#6 estimate: $0.000090/call - Off by 2.4× — output tokens are ~397 avg (estimate was 150), because verbatim_text transcription inflates output - 2000-market T2 projected: $0.43 (vs $0.18 in PR WW-shan#6) Conclusion: V2 strict prompt + Gemini Flash combination works out-of-the-box on real Polymarket descriptions. No prompt tweaks needed before T2 scale-up. PR WW-shan#6 budget needs an update but total cost still trivial. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
Three improvements over experiment 2: - 4 models head-to-head via OpenRouter (Gemini Flash, DeepSeek V3, GPT-4o-mini, Llama 3.3 70B) instead of just Gemini Flash. Tests the assumption that Flash — originally chosen in dash-ocr for image OCR — is also best for pure text extraction. - n=30 stratified by description length (10 short + 10 medium + 10 long) instead of n=5 random - Full per-call NDJSON dump (raw response, parsed JSON, tokens, cost, schema/grounding checks) so we can read actual clause text afterward — experiment 2 lost this data Hard cost cap: $0.50 (rough est is $0.04 for 120 calls). Auto-metrics report shows per-model schema/grounding/clause-count. The actionable/structural/trivial qualitative judgment will be done in a separate pass that reads the NDJSON. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
User-paid elysiver.h-e.top endpoint hosts GLM models including glm-5 and glm-4.6 (and glm-5.1 but quota-exhausted today). Cost = $0 to us (user-paid, quota-limited), latency 15-25s/call. Changes: - PROVIDERS dict abstracts OpenAI-compatible endpoints (openrouter, elysiver); each model entry declares its provider. - load_env_file() reads .env for OPENAI_BACKUP_API_KEY (gitignored). - call_model() now routes per-model and looks up keys per-provider. - Browser-like User-Agent header — Cloudflare on elysiver returns 1010 to urllib's default UA; verified Mozilla/5.0 UA passes the check. - New --out-name arg so partial reruns (e.g. only the new GLM models) don't overwrite earlier 4-model results. - Added glm-5 and glm-4.6 model entries (cost=0 placeholder). Smoke-tested: both GLM models complete full V2 prompt against real Polymarket descriptions, schema_ok and grounding_ok, extract substantive clauses (exclusion / numeric_threshold types). windhub.cc primary endpoint remains unusable: harder Cloudflare JS challenge that browser UA alone doesn't pass. Also commits the previously-run 4-model report file (experiment-multi-model-extraction-2026-05-12.md) which captured the OpenRouter Gemini Flash / DeepSeek V3 / GPT-4o-mini / Llama 3.3 70B baseline used for judging. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
Experiment 7 (refined v2): classifies neg-risk groups into explicit_other / binary / open_set tiers using catch-all keyword markers. Replaces broken size>=8 heuristic that flagged Nobel-style open candidate sets as exhaustive. 06:13 UTC snapshot found 1 strict candidate (James Bond) + 7 binary candidates. GLM-4.6 / GLM-5 results: 29/29 vs 16/30 success on elysiver-routed free endpoints. GLM-4.6 emerges as $0 alternative to DeepSeek V3 for T2 resolution-clause extraction. Research summary (Day 1) captures the day's verdicts for classmate WW review: thesis live, James Bond needs CLOB depth verification. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
…cale Infrastructure: - snapshot_gamma.py: 15-min Gamma snapshot collector, writes per-snapshot markets.ndjson + classified groups.ndjson with edge_after_fee precomputed - run_snapshot_loop.ps1: persistent loop runner (PowerShell) - backfill_prices_history.py: reconstructs 14 days of synthetic snapshots via CLOB /prices-history (mid-price approximation, with caveats) - analyze_arb_events.py: detects contiguous edge events, computes persistence_minutes, applies pre-locked GO/KILL thresholds - verify_james_bond_book.py: real CLOB /book depth check + fill simulation - analyze_binary_refined.py: sub-classifies 2-member groups into dvr/yes_no/pseudo, runs per-subtier event detection Findings (14-day window, see research-summary-2026-05-13.md for the full writeup): - explicit_other tier: 4 events, all on James Bond group, 30-60hr persistence, mid-edge +9% to +18%. CLOB depth check shows max per-event profit ~$3.78 (at 80-unit basket), breakeven at ~120 units. Annualized ceiling ~$394 before gas/withdrawal. Commercially dead. - binary dvr tier (D vs R races): 98 events at +2% threshold, but most are forward-fill artifacts on illiquid markets (9-34 distinct prices across 1140 snapshots = ~one trade per 30hr). Live bestAsk required to verify. Conclusion: live snapshot loop continues running to accumulate honest bestAsk time series; explicit_other thesis killed. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
Live-only retest of the binary tier (--live-only flag on both analyzers) confirmed the 22-hour persistence seen in backfill was forward-fill artifact. Real bestAsk-based events flash for 1 snapshot (15 min) and disappear. A few D/R races (WV/TN/SC Senate/Gov) showed persistent low-edge floors of 2-5% across 14 hours of live data. Generalized verify_book script (scripts/verify_group_book.py, takes --group-id-prefix arg) and ran depth check on the most stable candidate (SC Governor D/R, +2.55% sustained edge, $4,377 min_liq): Marginal edge: +2.55% 50u basket: +$0.52 profit 200u basket: +$0.31 (breakeven approaching) 500u basket: -$21 (negative) Republican side bestAsk=0.91 has depth of only 3.9 units ($3.5 of fillable). Edge collapses on first non-trivial fill. Both thesis branches now have definitive verdicts: - explicit_other (James Bond): $3.78/event max - binary D-vs-R (SC Gov sample): $0.52/event max Both killed by the same structural fact: long-tail Polymarket books hold $5-80 of depth at best ask. The "persistent edge" is real but is the unfilled cost of nobody bothering to take $5 of order flow. Action: live snapshot loop stopped (no point accumulating data when both branches are dead). Existing 1.3GB local data kept as baseline. Pivot direction TBD with WW via PR WW-shan#9. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Day 3 follow-up — both thesis branches now confirmed dead at scaleAdded commit TL;DR: ran SC Governor D/R depth check (was the best-looking live candidate, +2.55% sustained for 14hrs, $4,377 min_liq):
Killer: Republican-side bestAsk = 0.91 with only 3.9 units of depth ($3.5 fillable). A single $4 trade closes the edge. Both thesis branches:
Same structural cause: Polymarket long-tail books carry $5–80 of depth at best ask. The "persistent edges" are the price of nobody bothering with $5 of order flow. Actions taken:
Three questions for you (full version in research-summary §8):
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After user pushed back on the "thesis dead" verdict ("我不信邪"), built two
maker-strategy simulators:
v1 (mid-touch, simulate_maker_basket.py):
- 3.15M tick points across 157 tokens over 14 days
- For each (group, day, markup): did mid touch (bestAsk - markup)?
- Result: $15,546/yr theoretical across 72 groups @ $100 basket
- Known weakness: mid touching != trade at that price
v2 (trade tape, simulate_maker_basket_v2.py):
- Real Polymarket /trades tape, 48,030 raw trades over 14 days
- Filtered to SELL Yes trades (the type that would hit a maker bid)
- Only 1,602 / 48,030 (3.3%) qualified
- Result: $918/yr theoretical = 17x reduction from v1
After realistic adjustments (queue priority, D/R correlation,
partial-fill hedging cost, gas): $200-500/yr @ $100 basket, scaling to
~$2-5k/yr @ $1000 basket with $144k capital tied up.
Updated research-summary §3.9: I overclaimed "thesis dead" from 2
taker-only depth snapshots. Real verdict: TAKER dead, MAKER alive at
hobby scale. User's skepticism was correct; my single-perspective
testing was insufficient methodology.
Verdict matrix:
- Taker basket arb: $0-200/yr killed
- Maker basket arb (v1 mid-sim): $15k optimistic phantom
- Maker basket arb (v2 trade tape): $200-500/yr honest
Live loop remains stopped. Existing data + scripts kept for paper
trading next phase if pursued.
Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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Correction: I was wrong yesterday — MAKER thesis lives at $200-500/yrSoli22de pushed back on the "thesis dead" verdict, which led to actually building the maker-strategy backtest I should have built before declaring the whole thing dead. Two simulators added in commit v1 (mid-touch,
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| Metric | v1 (mid-touch) | v2 (trade tape) |
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| Total daily $ | $42.59 | $2.51 |
| Annualized | $15,546 | $918 |
| Groups w/ positive expected | 49/72 | 17/72 |
| Best per-group | Kansas Gov $4.87/day | Iowa Senate $1.00/day |
Realistic adjustment
After queue priority (×0.6), D/R correlation (×0.7), partial-fill hedging (-10%), Polygon gas (-20%): $200-500/yr at $100 basket, ~$2-5k/yr at $1000 basket.
Corrected verdict matrix
| Strategy | Real $/yr | Status |
|---|---|---|
| Taker basket arb | $0-200 | Dead at scale (verified) |
| Maker mid-sim (v1) | $15k phantom | Methodology was wrong |
| Maker trade-tape (v2) | $200-500 @ $100 | Honest, hobby scale |
What I learned
I overclaimed "thesis dead" from 2 taker-only depth snapshots. Robust testing needs at least: multiple strategy perspectives (taker/maker/hold), multiple snapshots in time, realistic fill models (trade tape > mid-touch), and multiple capital sizes.
Soli22de's "我不信邪" pushback is the only reason this PR has a defensible final verdict instead of a wrong one.
Three questions, revised
- Want to take the next step — paper-trade 2-3 top v2 candidates (Iowa Senate, Georgia Senate, Illinois Senate D/R) for 1-2 weeks to validate the ~$1/day-per-group claim with real fills?
- Accept hobby scale ($2-5k/yr at $1k basket size) or pivot to cross-platform / HFT-lane theses?
- Should I extend the trade-tape simulator to cover non-D/R structures (initiative referenda, sports specials) — could uncover other tradeable groups we missed?
…cherry-pick WW review of PR WW-shan#9 caught 4 bugs in the v1/v2 maker simulations and verify_group_book.py: 1. Income not capped by realized trade size — formula `fill_rate * avg_edge * intended_basket` assumed every fill captured the full $100. With avg trade sizes of 3-9 units, that overstates by 5-20x. 2. Maker target could cross bestAsk — `max(t, bestBid+0.001)` for narrow spreads could produce target = bestAsk (crossing/taker order, not maker). 3. verify_group_book.py partial-fill cost wrong — `cost = avg_px * size` should be `avg_px * filled`. Inflated negative edge numbers when book ran out. 4. avg_min_leg_sell_size was logged as a caveat but never folded into the main income formula. Fixes: - scripts/simulate_maker_basket_v2.py: per-day actual fill = min(intended, min-over-legs of qualifying-trade-size at price <= target); income = sum(edge_per_unit * actual_units) / window_days; target strictly clamped below bestAsk; skip markup levels with no valid maker zone. - scripts/verify_group_book.py: compute basket cost/fee/edge at actual fillable units (not intended size); flag CAPPED rows where book runs out. Reran both: - v3 (size-capped): naive across 72 groups = -$263/yr; cherry-pick 18 positive-edge groups = +$117/yr @ $100 basket - SC Gov taker @ 200u = +$2.02 (max), capped at 1304u for larger sizes Research summary §3.10 + §3.11 supersede §3.9. TL;DR updated. Honest final verdict: long-tail D-vs-R spread is market friction, not alpha. Retail investor cannot net positive after fee + queue + gas. The thesis isn't dead — it was never alpha to begin with, only looked like alpha because of methodological errors at multiple layers. Thanks to WW for the rigorous review. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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@WW-shan 你提的 4 条全对。已修 + push commit 修了什么
修完跑出来的新数字（v3）
72 组 naive 部署 = 平均亏 $263/yr。只 trade 那 18 个正期望组 = +$117/yr @ $100 basket。 更细看 markup 表：
每个 markup 总日 $ 都负 —— 即使最好的 markup ($0.05)，total = -$0.75/day。原因：avg edge/unit 在小 markup 时被 fee 吃掉，大 markup 时 fill rate 太低。 你判断中那两条对得很正
关键诚实结论修正之前 PR 标题/描述说"maker thesis lives at $200-500/yr"，那是错的。修完后真实判决： 长尾 D-vs-R 的 spread 不是 alpha，是市场摩擦。零售投资者做不到 net positive after fee + queue + gas。 完整演变写在 还想问你
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Post-mortem of the maker-arb thesis after WW archived PR #9. Two methodology fixes in v4: (A) maker fee was wrongly = taker fee in v3. Polymarket docs and live feeSchedule.takerOnly=True on 100/100 sampled markets confirm makers never pay fees. Corrected: maker_fee = 0. (B) v3 was 100% in-sample. Added 10/4 train/test split + multi-window orchestration to detect window-luck. Findings progression: v3 (in-sample, taker fee): -$263/yr naive, +$117 cherry v4 single window (today): +$195/yr naive, +$289 cherry OOS v4 multi-window (4 x 14d = 56d): naive mean -$183 (sign flips!), cherry mean +$251 but UNSTABLE The decisive result: across 4 non-overlapping 14-day windows covering 2026-03-20 to 2026-05-15: - 0 of 64 groups have positive OOS in >=3/4 windows - 44/64 groups (69%) had zero positive OOS across all 4 windows - Even the 2 groups consistently in top-18 by in-sample (Wisconsin, Kansas) had positive OOS in only 2/4 and 1/4 windows respectively - Naive deploy sign flips: -$1,117 in 3/20-4/03 window, +$239 in 4/03-4/17 window Cherry-pick "wins" within each window because we pick this window's winners; but the winners rotate, so no actionable alpha. Files: scripts/simulate_maker_basket_v4.py - corrected fee + IS/OOS split + --end-date for time-shifting scripts/aggregate_v4_multi_window.py - cross-window stability reports/maker-simulation-v4-*-w-*.md - 4 per-window reports reports/maker-simulation-v4-multi-window-2026-05-15.md - the verdict Note: poly_strategy/maker.py production code already has fee_rate_assumption=0.0 for maker legs. The fee bug was localized to my standalone research script, not production. Co-Authored-By: Claude Opus 4.7 (1M context) <noreply@anthropic.com>
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TL;DR
14-day backfill + real CLOB depth check on the long-tail explicit_other arb candidate (James Bond). Verdict: technically real, commercially dead — max ~$3.78/event × ~4 events/14d ≈ $394/yr theoretical ceiling, less than gas after monitoring/withdrawal costs.
Binary D-vs-R sub-classifier built; backfill shows 98 "events" but most are forward-fill artifacts on illiquid markets. Live snapshot loop is now running on Soli22de's machine to accumulate honest bestAsk data — final binary verdict in 1-2 weeks.
Two read-first files
reports/research-summary-2026-05-13.md— the writeup, continues from yesterday's-05-12.mdreports/james-bond-book-validation-2026-05-12.md— the depth check that killed the thesisWhat's in the diff
Infrastructure (~700 lines):
scripts/snapshot_gamma.py— every-15-min Gamma collector, writes per-snapshot markets.ndjson + classified groups.ndjson with edge_after_fee precomputedrun_snapshot_loop.ps1— persistent loop runner (Windows PowerShell)scripts/backfill_prices_history.py— reconstructs 14 days of synthetic snapshots via CLOB/prices-historymid prices (with caveats baked into the docstring)scripts/analyze_arb_events.py— detects contiguous edge events, computes persistence_minutes, applies pre-locked GO/KILL thresholdsscripts/verify_james_bond_book.py— real CLOB/bookdepth check + fill simulation at sizes [10, 30, 50, 80, 100, 150]scripts/analyze_binary_refined.py— sub-classifies 2-member groups into dvr/yes_no/pseudo (catches the Aston Villa vs Freiburg false-binary trap)Reports (~1200 lines, 4 files):
reports/arb-persistence-2026-05-12.mdreports/james-bond-book-validation-2026-05-12.mdreports/binary-refined-2026-05-12.mdreports/research-summary-2026-05-13.mdPlus yesterday's leftover commit (separate,
0df9dee): experiment 7 v2 refined + 4-model GLM extraction results.Key findings
/prices-historybackfill useful in general?Open questions for review
Test plan
This is mostly a research PR, not a code-shipping one. To verify the infra:
python -u scripts/snapshot_gamma.py --pages 6producesdata/snapshots/<date>/<HH-MM>/{markets,groups,meta}.ndjsonpython -u scripts/analyze_arb_events.pyruns cleanly on at least one snapshotpython -u scripts/verify_james_bond_book.pyqueries CLOB and produces the depth report (depends on James Bond markets still being open)🤖 Generated with Claude Code