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Problem 3 and 4 of https://www.math.md/files/basm/y2013-n2-3/y2013-n2-3-(pp37-46).pdf.pdf

See #1849.

I guess weakly first countable could be defined better, but maybe this is enough for this repo.

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/-- A topologocal space $X$ is called *weakly first countable* if there exists a function
$N : X → ℕ → Set X, such that:

* For all $x : X, n : ℕ$ we have $x ∈ V x n$
* For all $x : X, n : ℕ$: $V (n + 1) x ⊆ V n x$
* $O ⊆ X$ is open iff $∀ x ∈ O, ∃ n : ℕ, V x n ⊆ O$
-/
class WeaklyFirstCountableTopology (X : Type*) [TopologicalSpace X] : Prop where
nhds_countable_weak_basis : ∃ V : X → ℕ → Set X, ∀ (x : X), Antitone (V x) ∧ ∀ (n : ℕ), x ∈ V x n ∧
∀ O : Set X, IsOpen O ↔ ∀ x ∈ O, ∃ k : ℕ, V x k ⊆ O

/-- There are weakly first countable spaces which are not first countable,
for example the [Arens Space](https://topology.pi-base.org/spaces/S000156). -/
@[category undergraduate, AMS 54]
theorem exists_weakly_first_countable_not_first_countable : ∃ (X : Type*) (_ : TopologicalSpace X),
WeaklyFirstCountableTopology X ∧ ¬ FirstCountableTopology X := by sorry

/-- Every first countable space is weakly first countable,
simply take $N x$ as a countable neighborhood basis of $x$. -/
@[category test, AMS 54]
instance FirstCountableTopology.weaklyFirstCountableTopology (X : Type*) [TopologicalSpace X]
[FirstCountableTopology X] : WeaklyFirstCountableTopology X where
nhds_countable_weak_basis := by sorry
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I think these would be reasonable to add to FormalConjecturesForMathlib (with proof_wanted for statements that have a sorry - you can also keep those as problems in this file)

@YaelDillies YaelDillies changed the title feat(Paper): Two conjectures about weakly first countable spaces feat(Paper): two conjectures about weakly first countable spaces Jan 25, 2026
@YaelDillies YaelDillies added the awaiting-author The author should answer a question or perform changes. Reply when done. label Jan 25, 2026
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* For all $x : X, n : ℕ$ we have $x ∈ V x n$
* For all $x : X, n : ℕ$: $V (n + 1) x ⊆ V n x$
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Inconsistent order of arguments

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class WeaklyFirstCountableTopology (X : Type*) [TopologicalSpace X] : Prop where
nhds_countable_weak_basis : ∃ V : X → ℕ → Set X, ∀ (x : X), Antitone (V x) ∧ ∀ (n : ℕ), x ∈ V x n ∧
∀ O : Set X, IsOpen O ↔ ∀ x ∈ O, ∃ k : ℕ, V x k ⊆ O
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∀ O : Set X, IsOpen O ↔ ∀ x ∈ O, ∃ k : ℕ, V x k ⊆ O
(\nhds x).HasBasis (fun _ \mapsto True) (V x)

@[category test, AMS 54]
instance FirstCountableTopology.weaklyFirstCountableTopology (X : Type*) [TopologicalSpace X]
[FirstCountableTopology X] : WeaklyFirstCountableTopology X where
nhds_countable_weak_basis := by sorry
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