Add slack channel for workload-aware-scheduling#8851
Add slack channel for workload-aware-scheduling#8851helayoty wants to merge 1 commit intokubernetes:masterfrom
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Wait, are you adding topology-aware-scheduling as well?
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It's definitely debatable. I'd definitely leave the scheduling aspects (including topology scheduling) to sig-scheduling core.
The reasonable border between such channel (or WG) should be API and how scheduler interacts with the rest of the ecosystem including controllers, autoscalers, kubelet etc. The scheduling topics should be discussed on the sig-scheduling channel.
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Wait, are you adding topology-aware-scheduling as well?
I discovered that there is a channel with this name already! So just included it under scheduling.
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This is a slack channel that predates what we call Topology aware scheduling. I think its was more about topology aware within the node (https://github.com/k8stopologyawareschedwg).
This was probably more aligned with kubelet but I'm actually not sure if this channel is still used.
cc @ffromani @swatisehgal
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Let's not adopt it to sig-scheduling if we aren't completely sure its history.
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WDYT? @macsko @sanposhiho @wojtek-t @mm4tt
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As commented in #8849 (comment), we could alternatively use wg-workload-awareness or simply workload-awareness.
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[..] wg-workload-awareness [..]
jfyi, this would be misleading since it's not an actual WG
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skipping the wg prefix, we'd have workload-awarness then
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Giving it a second thought, having a name that clearly indicate the WAS effort "workload-aware-scheduling" will increase discoverability of the channel, so I'm fine with the full name as well.
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It's definitely debatable. I'd definitely leave the scheduling aspects (including topology scheduling) to sig-scheduling core.
The reasonable border between such channel (or WG) should be API and how scheduler interacts with the rest of the ecosystem including controllers, autoscalers, kubelet etc. The scheduling topics should be discussed on the sig-scheduling channel.
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/hold In addition to the test fail (and possible channel duplication), discussion about what to name the new channel is ongoing |
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Why not discuss all the things in sig-scheduling slack channel? There's a few messages even today, and I don't think the channel is overwhelmed / mixed with various different topics. From the past experience, i feel like we generally kinda hesitate to create various channels unnecessarily. I don't see a strong motivation here. |
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@kannon92 I suppose you meant to leave this comment here
Yes. I can imagine some questions might then be asked to move to sig-app channel though, if that's too sig-app perspective questions. We are not WG right now - how do all people notice there is a dedicated channel for WAS and the integration? My concern is that
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...or, in other words, if many maintainers argue it is necessary/convenient to create such a dedicated place for the WAS discussions related to various SIGs/WGs, that might be a signal that we are needing WG. |
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Doh! Yes I meant to post the respond on slack here. 🙈 |
We have discussed this topic in the last Workload API sync meeting. The conclusion is that while we still don't want to go furture and create WG until we see a real neccessary need, the Workload-aware integration will expand beyond scheduling only (sig-apps, sig-autoschaling, LWS, JobSet, etc... ). |
This will be our responsibility to make it visible and noticable. |
@jberkus this is not a duplicated channel, this channel has been there already and no one know anything about it. Therefore, sig-scheduling needs to start mention it for topology-aware discussion and link it to both sig-scheduling and workload-aware when neccessary. |
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LGTM for "workload-aware-scheduling" channel name to increase discoverability of the WAS effort. The only question is who the chanel name would evolve in case we formed a WG? Can it remain the same? |
Following up the conversation with SIG-Scheduling, SIG-apps, and WG-device-management. The decision is to create a dedicated slack channel for WAS (Workload-aware-scheduling) and TAS (Topology-aware-scheduling) workstream.
cc @mm4tt @johnbelamaric @dom4ha @wojtek-t @kannon92 @andreyvelich
Which issue(s) this PR fixes:
Fixes #8849