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Welcome to the Trains wiki! Here you will find how to take note of trainsets and even their coach/car numbers!

RapidKL services

Usually, numberings would have a maximum of 4 digits to be interpreted and would usually be straightforward.

LRT Kelana Jaya Line

  • These trains were originally built by Bombardier and Hartasuma, known as the Innovia series.
  • 3 digits system. If you get 294, the first digit is the car number, while the other two would be the set number. Set 94, Car 2.
  • There are at most 4 cars, so the first digit should only be up to 4xx.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

exterior: at each cab end (1xx or 2xx)

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exterior: at the side of the cab end
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  • white colour IMG_9601 - copy
interior: right side at each ends of a car

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interior: labels at wheelchair bays or intercom

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interior: next to some doors

IMG_4187 - copy Here, just take the 3 digit number (190 - Set 90, Car 1). The rest would be used by staff or for those with expertise. Please ignore that to avoid confusion.

Miscellaneous

Numbers for intermediate to advanced spotters. Number assigned to each category:

  • 2-coach: 02 to 23 (currently as of 13 February 2024)
  • 4-coach ART 200: 36 to 70
  • 4-coach Metro 300: 72 to 85, 92 to 99, 24 to 35
  • 4-coach Married: 87 to 91

Birds

  • Did you know that most 4-car ART 200 (first generation 4-car) trains used to have bird nicknames engraved by the ends of the trains below their numbers?
Set 59: Bangau Hitam

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Gallery

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Got it? Let's find out about other lines!

MRT Kajang Line

  • These trains were originally built by Siemens, known as the Inspiro series. The nickname is "Guiding Light". 4 digits system. If you get 1172, the last digit is the car number, while the other three would be the set number. Set 117, Car 2.
  • The middle two digits would be the set number, while the first digit would be the generation number. For convenience of identification, all 3 digits are counted as the set number.
  • There are 58 trains in total. Each train only has 4 cars, so the last digit should be at most 4.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: lower side of each cab

IMG_4203 - copy The 3 digits are immediately the set number. Here it's set 146.

Exterior: side end of each car

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Interior: next to doors

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Miscellaneous

Numbers for intermediate to advanced spotters. Current external liveries:

  • 107 - LOHAS 2022 Run by Taiwan Excellence
  • 124 - MPK 2022 (blue with robot)
  • 128 - Carhartt (TRX)
  • 134 - Pembangunan Nasional 2020
  • 140 - Red Bull
  • 144 - MAHA 2022
  • 149 - Manipal International University College
  • 150 - Minyak Sawit Malaysia
  • 154 - Samsung Galaxy S24

Gallery

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MRT Putrajaya Line

  • These trains were originally built by Hyundai, known as the Rotem series. The nickname is "Ducky". Some address them as Platypus.
  • 4 digits system. Twins with MRT Kajang Line. If you get 2363, the last digit is the car number, while the other three would be the set number. Set 236, Car 3.
  • The middle two digits would be the set number, while the first digit would be the generation number. For convenience of identification, all 3 digits are counted as the set number.
  • There are 49 trains in total. Each train only has 4 cars, so the last digit should be at most 4.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: lower side of each cab

IMG_3100 - copy The 3 digits are immediately the set number. Here it's set 227.

Exterior: side end of each car

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Interior: next to doors

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Miscellaneous

Numbers for intermediate to advanced spotters. Current sets with advertisements:

  • 202 - Interior: Usanita Mall and their branch of Amber
  • 204 - Livery and Interior: Samsung Galaxy S24

Gallery

IMG_3099 - copy IMG_8009 Preview of MRT Putrajaya Line Phase 1

LRT Ampang and Sri Petaling Lines

  • These trains were originally built by CSR (now CRRC), known as the Zhuzhou LRV series. The nickname is "AMY".
  • AMYs are 6 cars in length, unlike the other lines.
  • Also 4 digits system. Just like MRT Kajang Line and MRT Putrajaya Line, the last digit is the car number, up to the number 6.
  • The first digit is the generation number, which may either be 3 or 4. The middle digits are the set number. Again, for convenience, all three would be identified as the set number. If you see 4321, it is Set 432, Car 1.
  • There are 50 trains in total.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: Lower part of the cab

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Exterior: alternating side end of each car (the numbers come in pairs)

IMG_0212 - copy IMG_3500 Set 431 with retrofitted set number stickers on livery

Interior: at top of each connecting gangway

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Miscellaneous

Numbers for intermediate to advanced spotters.

  • Generation 3 would be the first 20 trains. This would mean Sets 3xx are from 301 to 320.
  • Generation 4 would be the remaining 30 trains. Ie.: 421 to 450.

Gallery

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  • Set 302, prototype overhaul train. IMG_2881
  • View of the shiny, purple bogie of 302.

KL Monorail

  • These trains were originally built by Scomi, known as the SUTRA series. The older rolling stock known as Scomi MTrans fleet have now been retired or scrapped.
  • SUTRA trains are formed of 4 cars.
  • Also 4 digits system. Unlike the rest, the combinations are significantly different.
  • The first two digits are the set number. The other two digits are the car number. For simple identification, just identify the first two numbers. If you get 2936, it is Set 29. In official terms, RSV is added as a prefix. So it becomes RSV29.
  • There are 10 trains in total, with 9 operable, and 2 yet to be delivered (February 2024).
  • Admittedly, the numbers pasted at the cabs are not standardised on all trains, with some missing them.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: On the cab

IMG_3999 2209 means RSV22 (difficult to see due to number being tiny) Note: numbers may be having inconsistent fonts

Exterior: side of each cab car

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Interior: at top of each connecting gangway

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Interior: at top of some doors

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Miscellaneous

Numbers for intermediate to advanced spotters.

  • Trivia: RSV means Revenue Service Vehicle.
  • The set number labelling starts from 21 to avoid conflicting with the old rolling stock 01 to 12. So tentatively, we would have sets RSV21 to RSV32.
  • Each set, beginning with RSV21, actually have their car numbers added starting from 01. This addition goes on and on till the next vehicle is added. So for RSV21, you have cars 01, 02, 03, 04 (2101, 2102, 2103, 2104). So it is like a n+4 pattern for the next set. Therefore, for RSV27, you will see numbers 2725, 2726, 2727, 2728 pasted on the vehicle.
  • Hardcore Number Spotting Tip:
Exterior: on the ceiling

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Extra: BRT Sunway Line

  • Say no more. Just read like a car number plate lor hurhur ~
  • The fleet mainly consists of (currently only) about 15 BYD K9 electric vehicles.
  • Generally in the format BNG XXXX. We read all 4 digits as the set number.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: Below the windscreen

IMG_8894 copy You get BNG4108.

Interior: Top of front area

bng4108 numberplate Shotcut_00_00_46_897 copy This gives you BNG4108.

Miscellaneous

Numbers for intermediate to advanced spotters.

  • Notice so far the first digit is always 4.
  • The numbers available are 4014, 4015, 4101 to 4103, 4105 to 4113, and the odd 4204.
  • BNG4112 is VERY rare. BNG4104 needs some confirmation of its existence.
  • Additional location to see the bus set number would be the digits by the door. It generally works for most buses (exception examples: 14 would be BNG 4014 and 15 would be BNG 4015):
Exterior: door

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You get BNG4112.

Gallery

IMG_8897 BNG4108 as Prasarana Lestari 2030 and SDG ambassador.

KTMB

Most rolling stock have about 4 to 5 digits to be interpreted. However, certain numberings may be a little more complicated. But we're here to help! Also, please familiar yourselves with the letters C, T, and M. They mean cab, trailer and motor respectively.

Komuter

  • This applies to both Komuter and Komuter Utara.
  • As of 2024, all rolling stock use the C, T and M convention.

Class 92

  • If you see SCSXX, you already got the set, congratulations!
  • If you see stuff in the format of an alphabet and 4 digits (e.g. T92xx), then please read the following: (don't worry, take your time to digest!)
  • The first two digits will always be 92, because it denotes Class 92.
  • Remember what we said about C, T, and M earlier? The difference between C and M is only because both are motor coaches but which M cars are not cabs.
  • Why so confusing to have so many things to distinguish? Because each set were manufactured as separate electric multiple units (EMUs). Operations wise, normally these "multiples of units" would be coupled together to form a longer train. Kind of like polymerisation in chemistry, or just a combination of legos joined up to another combination.
  • To separate the numbers, the numbers would end up multiplying in pairs starting with the first unit. When describing in the set number of "SCS XX", it is formed of the EMU number pairs of "x" and "x+1". Let's start with SCS01. It gives you C9201, T9201, M9201, M9202, T9202, C9202.
  • So now that you know this number would increase in pairs for each "SCS", we can also obtain the set number using a simple formula:
  • If the number is even, just divide it by two to get the set number; if it is odd, add 1 and then divide by two to get the same results.
  • Examples: C9233 gives you SCS17, M9270 gives you SCS35.
  • The C, T and M would end up looking like this in a typical Class 92 configuration in sequence: C-T-M-M-T-C
  • Yes, women's coach would always be situated in the M cars.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: Below windscreen of cab

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Exterior: Lower side of each car at a corner

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You get SCS20.

Interior: Top at some ends of cars

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You get SCS21.

Classes 81 and 83

  • These are the "heritage" locomotives still in use.
  • If you see the EMUXX labels, you already got the set number yay!
  • If you see an alphabet followed by 4 digits, read the following:
  • The thing is, these usually are in 3-car configurations, so there's no M.
  • A little difference which makes it more confusing than the conventional numbering mentioned in the Class 92 section.
  • The trailer cars (T) would follow exactly the EMU set number.
  • So if we see a C car numbering, we use the formulae just like Class 92. But if it is T, you can read the set number immediately from the last two digits.
  • VERY IMPORTANT if for Class 83, you would use the same method to read as a Class 81. However, you need to plus 18 after the calculations are complete (complicated but this is how they label the cars)

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: Below windscreen of cab

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Exterior: Lower side of car ends

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This gives EMU33.

Interior: Above the doors between cars

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This gives EMU25.

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This gives EMU33.

Trivia:

  1. For Class 81, only EMU05 and EMU13 are in active service at present. EMU05 has a mostly yellow and blue appearance, while EMU13 would be in yellow and dark grey.
  2. For Class 83, 15 of the 22 units are alive. And you guessed it, why no 82? They all perished or were abandoned due to winding of the manufacturer. Class 82 was very glorious, regarded as one of the most reliable fleet...
  3. Only 5 Class 83s were retrofitted with Skypark Line (currently defunct) livery. These are: EMU23, EMU25, EMU29, EMU30, EMU33. Ironically, other Class 83s did serve the Skypark line, such as EMU40 being the last train to run on 14 February 2023.

Gallery

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  • SCS04 operating as an express train to Sungai Gadut at Kajang. IMG_5791
  • EMU05 IMG_9218
  • EMU13 NTQJ6416
  • EMU40 Last Skypark service MLPTF group photo shortly before departing back to KL Sentral. IMG_4670 copy
  • EMU33 at Ipoh. Notice the difference between the conventional Class 83 with this livery.

ETS

  • The Class 91s and 93s serve the line as of 2024.
  • They follow the exact same numbering system as the Class 92s.
  • Unfortunately, it is very difficult to read the numbers because the cabs do not have the numbering.
  • If you see either of the classes, just follow the method exactly like how you would read a Class 92, but replace "SCS" with "ETS".
  • Example: C9106 would give you Class 91, ETS 103. T9330 would give ETS 215.
  • Why 1 and 2 instead of 91 and 93? We don't have the answer but we can tell you that the 1XX denote Class 91, while the 2XX denote Class 93.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: Lower side of each car (at a corner)

IMG_4611 copy This gives you ETS 214.

Interior: Top at ends of cars

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This gives you ETS 201.

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This gives you ETS 101.

Interior: Above door windows

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This gives you ETS 213.

Miscellaneous

  1. Numbers for intermediate to advanced spotters:
  • 5 Class 91 trains supplied by Hyundai Rotem. ETS 101 to ETS 105.
  • 19 Class 93 trains. First 10 (ETS 201 to ETS 210) would be the first batch which do not have business class seats retrofitted, in a white livery. The remaining 9 (ETS 211 to ETS 219) would be the second batch, donning a red livery.

Gallery

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  • Class 91 ETS 101 at Ipoh station. IMG_9220
  • Class 93 variants. Generation 2 ETS 213 (left) vs Generation 1 ETS 204 (right).

Locomotives (under construction)

  • These vehicles would be used in the various services in the east and south (such as Ekspres Selatan or Ekspres Rakyat Timuran) or for freight
  • Historic locomotives are unfortunately not possible to be tracked. However, current locomotives under our radar would be the Class 19, 23, 24, 25, 26 (Blue Tiger), and 29.
  • 5 digits system. The first two digits denote the class number. The final three would land you the unique set number. For records purposes, we read all 5 digits. eg: 26114 denotes Class 26, Set 114, but we read it as 26114 for convenience.

Trivia:

  • Each locomotive may have a unique nickname (except Class 19), usually seen together with the number plate at the cab or by the side.

Where do I find them?

Locations:

Exterior: Cab

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Class 23

Exterior: Side of locomotive

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Class 23

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Intercity (East Coast and South) (under construction)

In this section, it would have locomotives haul the various passenger wagons. However, this classification is due to the presence of DMU rolling stock.

  • Diesel Multiple Units (DMUs) currently only run services between Gemas and Tumpat.
  • This limited service makes DMU trains very rare to be seen in service.

ERL/KLIA Express (under construction)

-Two types of fleets and both use the same code for set numbers.