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@Bonaout Bonaout commented Dec 15, 2025

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The NFSD jetpack has been removed from science and added to the NFSD techfab instead
The flash and EMP ammo for the grenade launcher have been added to the NFSD techfab as well

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No, contractors may not have NFSD jetpacks as a treat!

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  • remove: Removed the NFSD jetpack from the tech tree
  • tweak: The NFSD techfab can now print NFSD jetpacks and non-lethal grenade launcher ammo

Shuttle armament and NFSD jetpack have been removed from science and added to the NFSD techfab instead
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There are china lake loot drops from exped that use/include the grenade ammo. Mercs can find the ship weapons as well.

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Bonaout commented Dec 15, 2025

There are china lake loot drops from exped that use/include the grenade ammo. Mercs can find the ship weapons as well.

Ship cannons can be found??? Huh... Well, I did not know that!

But even then, the research was originally meant to be locked to NFSD, and I don't think we want to allow civilians to have access to ammo production for those types of weapons!

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There are china lake loot drops from exped that use/include the grenade ammo. Mercs can find the ship weapons as well.

Ship cannons can be found??? Huh... Well, I did not know that!

But even then, the research was originally meant to be locked to NFSD, and I don't think we want to allow civilians to have access to ammo production for those types of weapons!

well, it's more specifically the svalinn MG, but I believe this was meant to be a joke research nobody would realistically go for Dvir said originally. Regardless said china lake only comes with EMP grenades currently, making it kind of useless for actually clearing expeds with. If someone wants to spend 90K points to unlock blast grenades though, that's a lot of research for a very niche item.

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Bonaout commented Dec 16, 2025

If someone wants to spend 90K points to unlock blast grenades though, that's a lot of research for a very niche item.

It's not even blast grenades... The research currently unlocks EMP and Flash grenades...

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Which is why I'm not particularly concerned with civilians having access to them. It's going to be hard to abuse nonlethal grenades.

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Hi o/

I think that if the NFSD wants their team color jetpack out that's fine and well. No problems there.

I think at this point the ship has sailed and, if I understand things correctly, access to nonlethal grenades seems fine to remain in place as is. That's not an NFSD specific item as I understand it.

@Bonaout Bonaout marked this pull request as draft December 18, 2025 22:51
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@Bonaout Hey Bon, what's the story on this PR?

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Bonaout commented Feb 23, 2026

@Bonaout Hey Bon, what's the story on this PR?

Hey! I am unsure what to do with this, I think I might keep the changes to the NFSD jetpacks (remove from science) and keep the "shuttle armament"...

I don't like the shuttle armament research, but some people do, so it might deserve to stay

But the NFSD jetpack research on the other hand should definitely be removed in my opinion, because it serves no purpose and gives easy access for civilians to print contraband

Re-added shuttle armament research
Accidently moved stuff around for no reason by adding the shuttle armament back, this puts it back into order
@Bonaout Bonaout marked this pull request as ready for review February 23, 2026 21:46
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Bonaout commented Feb 23, 2026

Updated and ready for discussion and/or review

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