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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$f2SJgcyWj2Yj66gXUzitO167_MuJq1zpLasgBywoQuo'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$f2SJgcyWj2Yj66gXUzitO167_MuJq1zpLasgBywoQuo' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$f2SJgcyWj2Yj66gXUzitO167_MuJq1zpLasgBywoQuo' target='_blank'>2025-12-29 14:28</a> <span class='u' style='color:#4977cf'>danicuki</span>: we use this one and it works</div>
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<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$NqStrwzr_Ixup77zRyc5FNIDHP5-iiXNNDhdl_QnzxA'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$NqStrwzr_Ixup77zRyc5FNIDHP5-iiXNNDhdl_QnzxA' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$NqStrwzr_Ixup77zRyc5FNIDHP5-iiXNNDhdl_QnzxA' target='_blank'>2025-12-30 17:26</a> <span class='u' style='color:#85d19a'>muddlebee</span>: thank you Daniel. Appreciate your guidance. 🙏</div>
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$hKODSs54pIviWh_WdStwk2ox4WzjjVn86mkyha557xk'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$hKODSs54pIviWh_WdStwk2ox4WzjjVn86mkyha557xk' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ddsEwXlCWnreEGuqXZ:polkadot.io/$hKODSs54pIviWh_WdStwk2ox4WzjjVn86mkyha557xk' target='_blank'>2025-12-30 19:40</a> <span class='u' style='color:#4977cf'>danicuki</span>: In Equation 14.17 (Availability Specifier), is it possible that s is empty (no segments are exported)? If it is the case, how s_clubs is calculated?</div>
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2025-12-30 19:40 danicuki: In Equation 14.17 (Availability Specifier), is it possible that s is empty (no segments are exported)? If it is the case, how s_clubs is calculated?
There's a weekly JAM Bookclub resuming this Wednesday from 19:00-20:00 CET online. They're currently discussing Chapter 9 of the Graypaper. It's a nice opportunity for people to revise/discuss/learn JAM with others. The focus is more on theory rather than implementation.
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<divclass='msg'><aclass='ts' href='#$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU'>#</a><aclass='ts' name='$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$_9hLINsChVG8rufQkmbqp-fIbsNyK1YqpS3C9S7QZHU' target='_blank'>2025-08-20 15:56</a> <spanclass='u' style='color:#787fdf'>erin</span>: tomusdrw: i've set up the archiver to archive this also, so hopefully will be up starting tomorrow</div>
2. The second request is for operands which we don't really have - the debugger passes the constants data again, and that fails.
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You can find the correct data in the execution trace, so pasting these as output in the debugger should give you the same result. <spanclass="edited">(edited)</span></div>
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could you share a link to those traces (if its shared in a public conformance repo somewhere)? </div>
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<divclass='msg reply'><aclass='ts' href='#$FMw6TJVRKgI49TBPKIm7VW4V-RCuqtjvhxQFsuXR7gk'>#</a><aclass='ts' name='$FMw6TJVRKgI49TBPKIm7VW4V-RCuqtjvhxQFsuXR7gk' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$FMw6TJVRKgI49TBPKIm7VW4V-RCuqtjvhxQFsuXR7gk' target='_blank'>2026-01-09 20:22</a> <spanclass='u' style='color:#6f63cc'>decentration</span>: hey thanks for this, i see now that i can reach HALT, and use 4262 out of the expected 4364 accumulate\_gas\_used, i am now wondering where that 102 gas went. <spanclass="edited">(edited)</span></div>
<divclass='msg'><aclass='ts' href='#$vSLIb40vaD3SV_LKq_RHyh9JhPgnSL5-YaZo8gJGIa4'>#</a><aclass='ts' name='$vSLIb40vaD3SV_LKq_RHyh9JhPgnSL5-YaZo8gJGIa4' href='https://matrix.to/#/!ksYpYHcVftKsUAsdMa:matrix.org/$vSLIb40vaD3SV_LKq_RHyh9JhPgnSL5-YaZo8gJGIa4' target='_blank'>2026-01-11 01:41</a> <spanclass='u' style='color:#be2950'>clearloop</span>: for the conformance repo, if it is possible to move the <code>tar.gz</code> stuffs to releases? embedding them in the repo make it hard to pull new commits
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2025-08-21 06:33 ascriv: https://github.com/davxy/jam-conformance/issues/26 should we not discourage open source implementations (for now)? [edited]
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<div class='msg'><a class='ts' href='#$jqh1PSWHRFlgs5MzG54AeedSyygZzkEdoZpN39tIhzk'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$jqh1PSWHRFlgs5MzG54AeedSyygZzkEdoZpN39tIhzk' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$jqh1PSWHRFlgs5MzG54AeedSyygZzkEdoZpN39tIhzk' target='_blank'>2026-01-10 16:22</a> <span class='u' style='color:#8e4edb'>gatesma</span>: hey folks, really interested in learning more on JAM. How can one start to try code a service on JAM ? Are there example or docs emerging ? Is it at the stage one can do this ?</div>
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<div class='msg reply'><a class='ts' href='#$_mNJaE4_Vm5T8BF9u3uR25DCi67RB_3YSCCfF60qYeA'>#</a> <a class='ts' name='$_mNJaE4_Vm5T8BF9u3uR25DCi67RB_3YSCCfF60qYeA' href='https://matrix.to/#/!wBOJlzaOULZOALhaRh:polkadot.io/$_mNJaE4_Vm5T8BF9u3uR25DCi67RB_3YSCCfF60qYeA' target='_blank'>2026-01-12 13:30</a> <span class='u' style='color:#5cdeb7'>cisco</span>: We should definitely fix that 😅 There are a couple examples that work though</div>
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Not that I know, but it seems to be a good idea to start collecting those ideas. </div>
There's a weekly JAM Bookclub resuming this Wednesday from 19:00-20:00 CET online. They're currently discussing Chapter 9 of the Graypaper. It's a nice opportunity for people to revise/discuss/learn JAM with others. The focus is more on theory rather than implementation.
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Not that I know, but it seems to be a good idea to start collecting those ideas.
There's a weekly JAM Bookclub resuming this Wednesday from 19:00-20:00 CET online. They're currently discussing Chapter 9 of the Graypaper. It's a nice opportunity for people to revise/discuss/learn JAM with others. The focus is more on theory rather than implementation.
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