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39 changes: 35 additions & 4 deletions tests/special_e2e/sft/run_sft_engine.sh
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Expand Up @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ MODEL_PATH=${MODEL_PATH:-${HOME}/models/${MODEL_ID}}
#hf download "${MODEL_ID}" --local-dir "${MODEL_PATH}"

SP_SIZE=${SP_SIZE:-1}
FSDP_SIZE=${FSDP_SIZE:-${NUM_GPUS}}
FSDP_SIZE=${FSDP_SIZE:-1}
FSDP_STRATEGY=${FSDP_STRATEGY:-"fsdp"}

TP_SIZE=${TP_SIZE:-1}
Expand All @@ -44,6 +44,8 @@ USE_REMOVE_PADDING=${USE_REMOVE_PADDING:-True}

FSDP_ENGINE_CONFIG="\
engine=${backend} \
model=hf_model \
model.path=$MODEL_PATH \
optim=${backend} \
optim.lr=1e-5 \
optim.lr_warmup_steps_ratio=0.2 \
Expand All @@ -58,6 +60,8 @@ FSDP_ENGINE_CONFIG="\

VEOMNI_ENGINE_CONFIG="\
engine=${backend} \
model=hf_model \
model.path=$MODEL_PATH \
optim=${backend} \
optim.lr=1e-5 \
optim.lr_warmup_steps_ratio=0.2 \
Expand All @@ -71,6 +75,8 @@ VEOMNI_ENGINE_CONFIG="\

MEGATRON_ENGINE_CONFIG="\
engine=${backend} \
model=hf_model \
model.path=$MODEL_PATH \
optim=${backend} \
optim.lr=1e-5 \
optim.lr_warmup_steps_ratio=0.2 \
Expand All @@ -87,6 +93,27 @@ MEGATRON_ENGINE_CONFIG="\
+engine.override_transformer_config.context_parallel_size=${CP_SIZE} \
engine.use_mbridge=True"

TORCHTITAN_ENGINE_CONFIG="\
engine=${backend} \
model=torchtitan_model \
model.attn_type=varlen \
model.path=${MODEL_PATH} \
optim=${backend} \
optim.lr=1e-5 \
optim.lr_warmup_steps_ratio=0.2 \
optim.weight_decay=0.1 \
optim.betas="[0.9,0.95]" \
optim.clip_grad=1.0 \
optim.min_lr_factor=0.1 \
optim.decay_type=cosine \
optim.total_training_steps=1000 \
engine.tensor_parallel_size=${TP_SIZE} \
engine.pipeline_parallel_size=${PP_SIZE} \
engine.context_parallel_size=${CP_SIZE} \
engine.data_parallel_shard_size=${FSDP_SIZE} \
engine.use_torch_compile=False"


if [ "$backend" = "fsdp" ]; then
ENGINE_CONFIG="$FSDP_ENGINE_CONFIG"
echo "Using fsdp engine"
Expand All @@ -95,6 +122,10 @@ elif [ "$backend" = "veomni" ]; then
ENGINE_CONFIG="$VEOMNI_ENGINE_CONFIG"
echo "Using veomni engine"
exp_name=gsm8k-${backend}-sp${SP_SIZE}-fsdp${FSDP_SIZE}-pad-${PAD_MODE}-use_remove_padding-${USE_REMOVE_PADDING}-mode-${mode}
elif [ "$backend" = "torchtitan" ]; then
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Please verify different parallelism in tests/special_e2e/sft/test_sft_engine_all.sh

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sounds good. I will incorporate TP/SP with this PR, for other parallelism, will have separate PRs.

ENGINE_CONFIG="$TORCHTITAN_ENGINE_CONFIG"
echo "Using torchtitan engine"
exp_name=gsm8k-${backend}-tp${TP_SIZE}-pp${PP_SIZE}-cp${CP_SIZE}-dp${FSDP_SIZE}-pad-${PAD_MODE}-use_remove_padding-${USE_REMOVE_PADDING}-mode-${mode}
else
ENGINE_CONFIG="$MEGATRON_ENGINE_CONFIG"
echo "Using megatron engine"
Expand All @@ -112,8 +143,8 @@ $COMMAND \
data.use_dynamic_bsz=True \
data.max_token_len_per_gpu=2048 \
data.messages_key=messages \
model.path=$MODEL_PATH \
model.use_remove_padding=${USE_REMOVE_PADDING} \
data.ignore_input_ids_mismatch=True \
${ENGINE_CONFIG} \
trainer.test_freq=after_each_epoch \
trainer.save_freq=-1 \
Expand All @@ -128,5 +159,5 @@ $COMMAND \
# trainer.total_training_steps=${TOTAL_TRAIN_STEP} \
# trainer.checkpoint.save_contents=[model,optimizer,extra,hf_model] \
# trainer.max_ckpt_to_keep=1 \
rm -rf "${ckpts_home:?}/*"

rm -rf "${ckpts_home:?}/*"
8 changes: 8 additions & 0 deletions tests/special_e2e/sft/test_sft_engine_all.sh
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Expand Up @@ -37,6 +37,14 @@ BACKEND=megatron TP_SIZE=2 PP_SIZE=2 VPP_SIZE=${VPP_SIZE} CP_SIZE=2 NUM_GPUS=8 b
echo "run with tp2 pp2 vpp2 cp2 num_gpus8 mode=ray"
BACKEND=megatron TP_SIZE=2 PP_SIZE=2 VPP_SIZE=${VPP_SIZE} CP_SIZE=2 NUM_GPUS=8 mode=ray bash tests/special_e2e/sft/run_sft_engine.sh

# test with torchtitan fsdp=1
echo "run with tp1 pp1 cp1 fsdp2 num_gpus2"
BACKEND=torchtitan TP_SIZE=1 PP_SIZE=1 CP_SIZE=1 FSDP_SIZE=2 NUM_GPUS=2 bash tests/special_e2e/sft/run_sft_engine.sh
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Well...it breaks NPU and VLM ci, I think we better temporary disable it in ci once we're ready. Checkout ci workflows:

.github/workflows/e2e_sft_llm_ascend.yml
.github/workflows/e2e_sft_llm.yml
.github/workflows/e2e_sft_vlm.yml

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ah it's because I didnt pip install torchtitan in the CI flow. let me install and see if it passes.

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seems CI needs to manual approval after I added pip install torchtitan. I will disable torchtitan run in CI for now, we can add back once we have everything including RL ready.


# test with torchtitan tp2 fsdp=2
echo "run with tp2 pp1 cp1 fsdp2 num_gpus4"
BACKEND=torchtitan TP_SIZE=2 PP_SIZE=1 CP_SIZE=1 FSDP_SIZE=2 NUM_GPUS=4 bash tests/special_e2e/sft/run_sft_engine.sh

python3 tests/special_e2e/sft/compare_sft_engine_results.py

rm -rf ~/verl/test/log
65 changes: 65 additions & 0 deletions verl/trainer/config/engine/torchtitan.yaml
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# Target class for this configuration
_target_: verl.workers.config.TorchtitanEngineConfig

# policy for wrapping the model
wrap_policy:
# Minimum number of parameters to trigger wrapping a layer with FSDP
min_num_params: 0

# The policy for applying `reshard_after_forward` within an FSDP setup
# Options: "default", "always", "never"
reshard_after_forward: default

# Prefetch the next forward-pass all-gather before the current forward computation.
forward_prefetch: false

# Whether to use original parameters
use_orig_params: false

# Mixed precision configuration for FSDP
mixed_precision: false

# Whether to use torch compile
use_torch_compile: true

# Whether to use entropy_from_logits_with_chunking
entropy_from_logits_with_chunking: false

# Whether to use entropy checkpointing
entropy_checkpointing: false

# Data parallel size (FSDP group size)
data_parallel_size: 1

# Data parallel replicate size
data_parallel_replicate_size: 1
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Is there any document explain these parallelism?

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# Data parallel shard size
data_parallel_shard_size: 1

# Tensor parallel size
tensor_parallel_size: 1

# Expert parallel size
expert_parallel_size: 1

# Pipeline parallel size
pipeline_parallel_size: 1

# Context parallel size
context_parallel_size: 1

# Strategy
strategy: torchtitan

# Random seed for reproducibility
seed: 42

# Whether to enable full determinism for distributed training, only for debugging
full_determinism: false

# Whether to use forward only
forward_only: false

# Mixed precision training param dtype
dtype: bfloat16
25 changes: 25 additions & 0 deletions verl/trainer/config/model/torchtitan_model.yaml
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# Format checks enforced on CI:
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Please use verl/trainer/config/model/hf_model.yaml. All the model should start from huggingface

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I think we can add backend specific fields in hf_model.yaml, e.g:

torchtitan:
  name: qwen3
  flavor: "0.6B"

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This is not desired. We should strictly start from huggingface naming and checkpoint because this is where people create their models

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the name and flavor fields are required by Titan to get corresponding train spec and model args. It does 1-1 mapping to hugging face models. See more here https://github.com/pytorch/torchtitan/blob/fde830de29c34c55b4cdc0209ac51f5b8084244e/torchtitan/models/llama3/__init__.py#L51

@vermouth1992 @wuxibin89 let me know if you have better ideas, but for now I think what the user need to do is just explicitly pass in name and flavor. It still aligns with the HF naming and ckpt.

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_target_: verl.workers.config.TorchtitanModelConfig
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Why not reuse verl/trainer/config/model/hf_model.yaml?


# Model name (e.g., "qwen3", "llama3")
name: qwen3

# Model flavor/size (e.g., "0.6B", "1.5B", "7B")
flavor: "0.6B"

# Path to HuggingFace model (tokenizer, config, weights, etc.)
path: ./assets/hf/Qwen3-0.6B

# whether to use remove padding. Only valid when we use hf model definition
use_remove_padding: True

# Attention type for the model (e.g., "sdpa", "flex", "varlen")
attn_type: sdpa

# Attention mask type for the model (e.g., "causal", "document_mask", "block_causal")
attn_mask_type: causal
35 changes: 35 additions & 0 deletions verl/trainer/config/optim/torchtitan.yaml
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# Target class for this configuration
_target_: verl.workers.config.TorchtitanOptimizerConfig

# Optimizer name
name: AdamW

# Learning rate
lr: 1e-3

# LR warmup steps ratio
lr_warmup_steps_ratio: 0.0

# Total training steps
total_training_steps: -1

# Weight decay
weight_decay: 0.01

# LR warmup steps
lr_warmup_steps: -1

# Betas for Adam optimizer
betas: [0.9, 0.999]

# Clip gradient
clip_grad: 1.0

# Epsilon for Adam optimizer
eps: 1e-8

# Decay type: "linear", "sqrt", or "cosine"
decay_type: linear

# Minimum LR factor for cosine schedule
min_lr_factor: 0.0
16 changes: 11 additions & 5 deletions verl/trainer/sft_trainer.py
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Expand Up @@ -238,16 +238,22 @@ def _get_batch_seqlens(self, data):
batch_seqlens: torch.Tensor = data["attention_mask"].sum(dim=-1)
batch_seqlens = batch_seqlens.to(self.device_name) # (global_bsz // dp)

dp_group = self.engine.get_data_parallel_group()
dp_size = self.engine.get_data_parallel_size()

if dp_size == 1 or dp_group is None:
return batch_seqlens.tolist()

output_tensor = torch.empty(
(batch_seqlens.shape[0] * self.engine.get_data_parallel_size(),),
(batch_seqlens.shape[0] * dp_size,),
dtype=batch_seqlens.dtype,
device=self.device_name,
) # (global_bsz,)

torch.distributed.all_gather_into_tensor(
output_tensor=output_tensor,
input_tensor=batch_seqlens,
group=self.engine.get_data_parallel_group(),
group=dp_group,
)

batch_seqlens = output_tensor.tolist()
Expand Down Expand Up @@ -372,9 +378,9 @@ def fit(self):
if self.engine.is_mp_src_rank_with_outputs():
val_loss = torch.mean(torch.tensor(val_losses, device=self.device_name))
# average over data parallel group
torch.distributed.all_reduce(
val_loss, op=torch.distributed.ReduceOp.AVG, group=self.engine.get_data_parallel_group()
)
dp_group = self.engine.get_data_parallel_group()
if dp_group is not None:
torch.distributed.all_reduce(val_loss, op=torch.distributed.ReduceOp.AVG, group=dp_group)

if is_logging:
metric = {"val/loss": val_loss.detach().item()}
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2 changes: 1 addition & 1 deletion verl/utils/seqlen_balancing.py
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Expand Up @@ -388,7 +388,7 @@ def rearrange_micro_batches(
if min_num_micro_batch is not None:
# used to support pp
num_micro_batches = max(min_num_micro_batch, num_micro_batches)
if dist.is_initialized() and same_micro_num_in_dp:
if dist.is_initialized() and same_micro_num_in_dp and dp_group is not None:
num_micro_batches = torch.tensor([num_micro_batches], device=get_device_name())
dist.all_reduce(num_micro_batches, op=dist.ReduceOp.MAX, group=dp_group)
num_micro_batches = num_micro_batches.cpu().item()
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2 changes: 2 additions & 0 deletions verl/utils/torch_functional.py
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Expand Up @@ -743,6 +743,8 @@ def get_cosine_schedule_with_warmup(
assert init_lr_ratio >= 0 and init_lr_ratio <= 1.0

def lr_lambda(current_step):
# # 0-indexed step, hence + 1 adjustments
current_step += 1
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see lr discussions here pytorch/torchtitan#2333 (comment)

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Can we still aligned with megatron if we made this changes?

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If not, then shall we make this configurable?

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Modifying the current_step within the shared utility function get_cosine_schedule_with_warmup introduces a significant risk of unintended side effects. This change effectively converts the step counting from 0-indexed to 1-indexed for all callers of this function, which could break the learning rate scheduling for other engines (e.g., FSDP) that rely on the original behavior. A safer approach would be to handle the step indexing within the specific calling code that requires 1-based indexing, or to create a new, separate scheduler utility (e.g., get_cosine_schedule_with_warmup_1_indexed) to avoid impacting existing functionality.

if current_step < num_warmup_steps:
return init_lr_ratio + (1.0 - init_lr_ratio) * (float(current_step) / float(max(1, num_warmup_steps)))
progress = float(current_step - num_warmup_steps) / float(max(1, num_training_steps - num_warmup_steps))
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57 changes: 57 additions & 0 deletions verl/workers/config/engine.py
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Expand Up @@ -27,6 +27,7 @@
"FSDPEngineConfig",
"McoreEngineConfig",
"TrainingWorkerConfig",
"TorchtitanEngineConfig",
"VeOmniEngineConfig",
"EngineConfig",
"EngineRouterReplayConfig",
Expand Down Expand Up @@ -309,6 +310,62 @@ def __post_init__(self):
assert self.strategy in ["veomni"], f"strategy {self.strategy} not supported"


@dataclass
class TorchtitanEngineConfig(EngineConfig):
"""Configuration for Torchtitan.

The inheritance from BaseConfig provides omegaconf.DictConfig-like interface for a dataclass config.

Args:
wrap_policy (Dict[str, Any]): Configuration for FSDP wrap policy.
reshard_after_forward (Literal["default", "always", "never"]): The policy for applying
`reshard_after_forward` within an FSDP setup, default "default"
forward_prefetch (bool): Whether to prefetch parameters for next forward pass, default False
use_orig_params (bool): Whether to use original parameters when initialize FSDP, default False
mixed_precision (bool): Mixed precision configuration for FSDP, default False
offload_policy (bool): Whether to offload policy model parameters, default False
data_parallel_size (int): Data parallel group size, default 1
data_parallel_replicate_size (int): Data parallel replicate size, default 1
data_parallel_shard_size (int): Data parallel shard degree, default 1
tensor_parallel_size (int): Tensor parallel size, default 1
expert_parallel_size (int): Expert parallel size, default 1
expert_tensor_parallel_size (int): Expert tensor parallel size, default 1
pipeline_parallel_size (int): Pipeline parallel size, default 1
context_parallel_size (int): Context parallel size, default 1
strategy (str): Strategy to use for distributed training, default "torchtitan"
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The descriptions for data_parallel_size, data_parallel_replicate_size, data_parallel_shard_size, tensor_parallel_size, expert_parallel_size, pipeline_parallel_size, and context_parallel_size in the docstring refer to "FSDP group size" or similar FSDP-specific terms. These are general parallelism parameters, and the descriptions should be more generic to avoid confusion, or the FSDP reference should be removed if it's not directly related to FSDP for Torchtitan.

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data_parallel_replicate_size (int): Data parallel replicate size, default 1
data_parallel_shard_size (int): Data parallel shard degree, default 1
tensor_parallel_size (int): Tensor parallel size, default 1
expert_parallel_size (int): Expert parallel size, default 1
pipeline_parallel_size (int): Pipeline parallel size, default 1
context_parallel_size (int): Ring-attn context parallel size, default 1
strategy (str): Strategy to use for distributed training, default "torchtitan"
data_parallel_size (int): Data parallel group size, default 1
data_parallel_replicate_size (int): Data parallel replicate size, default 1
data_parallel_shard_size (int): Data parallel shard degree, default 1
tensor_parallel_size (int): Tensor parallel size, default 1
expert_parallel_size (int): Expert parallel size, default 1
pipeline_parallel_size (int): Pipeline parallel size, default 1
context_parallel_size (int): Context parallel size, default 1

seed (int): Random seed for reproducibility.
full_determinism (bool): If true, enable_full_determinism is called to ensure reproducible results
in distributed training. Important: this will negatively impact performance, so only use it for
debugging.

"""

wrap_policy: dict[str, Any] = field(default_factory=dict)
reshard_after_forward: Literal["default", "always", "never"] = "default"
forward_prefetch: bool = False
use_orig_params: bool = False
mixed_precision: bool = False
offload_policy: bool = False
use_torch_compile: bool = True
entropy_from_logits_with_chunking: bool = False
entropy_checkpointing: bool = False
data_parallel_size: int = 1
data_parallel_replicate_size: int = 1
data_parallel_shard_size: int = 1
tensor_parallel_size: int = 1
expert_parallel_size: int = 1
expert_tensor_parallel_size: int = 1
pipeline_parallel_size: int = 1
context_parallel_size: int = 1
strategy: str = "torchtitan"
seed: int = 42
full_determinism: bool = False

def __post_init__(self):
super().__post_init__()
assert self.strategy in ["torchtitan"], f"strategy {self.strategy} not supported"


@dataclass
class TrainingWorkerConfig(BaseConfig):
model_type: str = None # model type (language_model/value_model)
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16 changes: 15 additions & 1 deletion verl/workers/config/model.py
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Expand Up @@ -24,7 +24,7 @@
from verl.utils.import_utils import import_external_libs
from verl.utils.model import get_generation_config, update_model_config

__all__ = ["HFModelConfig", "MtpConfig"]
__all__ = ["HFModelConfig", "MtpConfig", "TorchtitanModelConfig"]


@dataclass
Expand Down Expand Up @@ -220,3 +220,17 @@ def __post_init__(self):

def get_processor(self):
return self.processor if self.processor is not None else self.tokenizer


@dataclass
class TorchtitanModelConfig(HFModelConfig):
# Torchtitan-specific fields
name: str = "qwen3"
flavor: str = "0.6B"

# Model args overrides
attn_type: str = "sdpa" # e.g., "sdpa", "flex", "varlen"
attn_mask_type: str = "causal" # e.g., "causal", "block_causal"

def __post_init__(self):
super().__post_init__()
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