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March 7, 2018 Meeting Minutes - APPROVED

Meeting commenced 1:00 PM PST

  • Roll call (Bob) - quorum achieved.

Proposed agenda

  • Roll call
  • Review / approval of the agenda
  • Review of previous meeting minutes (February 7, 2018)
  • V3.0 Items (Other business to be covered in the following meetings)
      • Review Spec V3 from Chris Z
      • Review Mechanisms V3 form Chris Z
      • Planning for review/complete
  • Proposal - Salsa20 & CHaCHa20 - Stef M
  • Proposal - Blake2b - Stef M
  • Proposal - X3DH & DoubleRatchet - Stef M
  • Proposal - XEDDSA signateur mechanism - Stef M
  • Revisit Function names
  • Comment on comments list (Girish Kumar, CKA_TRUSTED). (Tony C) (https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/pkcs11-comment/201709/msg00000.html)
  • Comments list query (Timo Teras, ETSI TS 103 097 certificates)
  • Letter to NIST regarding AES GCM IV generation (Tony)
  • PKCS#11 Repository (Tony C)
  • PKCS#11 F2F Meeting (April 11 2018)
  • New business
  • Next meeting
  • Call for late arrivals
  • Adjourn
Motion to approve Agenda
  • Tim moved, Gerry seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Agenda approved.

Motion to approve meeting minutes

  • February 21, 2018
  • Greg moved. Daniel seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Minutes approved.

v3.0 Items

Review Spec V3 from Chris Z, Review Mechanisms V3 form Chris Z

  • no updates from Chris, or discussions or questions today.

Planing for review/complete

Proposal - Salsa20 & CHaCHa20 - Stef M

  • Bob: any more comments on these proposals? Stef submitted updates. Bob reviewed and had no more comments, hopefully Stef will be able to make the next meeting and we can discuss.
  • Stef (Late arrival): no additional comments.
  • Tim moves to open a ballot to include Salsa20 and CHaCha20 in version 3.0, once Bob provides the identifiers. Gerry seconded. Any comments, objections or abstentions? None heard, motion approved to open a ballot once Bob provides the identifiers and Stef uploads the updated proposal.

Proposal - Blake2b - Stef M.

  • Tim moves to open a ballot to include Blake2b in version 3.0, once Bob provides the identifiers. Stef seconded. Any comments, objections or abstentions? None heard, motion approved to open a ballot once Bob provides the identifiers and Stef uploads the updated proposal.

Proposal - XEDDSA signateur mechanism - Stef M

  • Stef: There may be an update coming, the name may change and a new mechanism. A general update to EDSA
  • Tim: if those get changed, new name and new mechanism would be a new proposal. Bob agrees. This proposal is complete as stands.
  • Valerie: Are we talking about which proposal?
  • Bob: All three of Stef's proposals together.
  • Tim: I see them as a collection, just waiting for Stef to make sure there were no further updates. Should ballot them separately so TC members can voice their opinions on each.
  • Stef: No more comments received, no updates planned.
  • Tim moves to open a ballot to include XEDDSA signateur mechanism in version 3.0, once Bob provides the identifiers. Stef seconded. Any comments, objections or abstentions? None heard, motion approved to open a ballot once Bob provides the identifiers and Stef uploads the updated proposal.

Proposal - X3DH & DoubleRatchet - Stef M

  • Tim moves to open a ballot to include X3DH and DoubleRatchet in version 3.0, once Bob provides the identifiers. Stef seconded. Any comments, objections or abstentions? None heard, motion approved to open a ballot once Bob provides the identifiers and Stef uploads the updated proposal.

Revisit Function names - Tony

  • Bob & Tim: did we decide to make these changes? Tim and Bob did not agree with discussion on Feb 21, 2018. Bob & Tim said there were other inconsistencies that were addressed since April 15, 2015. Bob & Tim thinks TC misread 15 April 2015 minutes.
  • Valerie suggests co-chairs sync and come back to TC for discussion.
  • Tim & Bob note that they were very careful that these functions do not look like the other functions, because they were not.
  • Daniel had suggested over email that they could be changed to have the same prefix, yet still different.
  • Tim believes they will still be obvious to new developers.
  • Valerie wants to clarify that she didn't mean someone new from 2.40 to 3.00 - but new to PKCS#11. Tim said they should still be very different. Daniel noted that "Message" in the name should make it clear.
  • Bob will connect with Tony and bring this back to TC.

Comment on comments list (Girish Kumar, CKA_TRUSTED). (Tony) (https://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/pkcs11-comment/201709/msg00000.html)

  • deferred

Comments list query (Timo Teras, ETSI TS 103 097 certificates) - Tony to reply

  • deferred (awaiting Tony's mail to list)

Letter to NIST regarding AES GCM IV generation (Tony)

  • waiting to hear back from Tony.

PKCS#11 Repository (Tony C)

  • Tony to present at next meeting hopefully, did upload the slides.
  • Bob: the repo has been moved, more details next week.
  • Tim: We should probably get the unofficial one removed. Bob: only really me and Chris were using it. Tim: It's public, should be removed.
  • Valerie takes action to update wiki to point to official one.

PKCS#11 F2F Meeting (April 11, 2018)

  • We have a date, but still no location.
  • Bob has backup room saved, but not ideal due to office being busy that week.

New business

  • Valerie: Valerie will work with Tony & Bob on a possible joint dinner with KMIP TC.

Next meeting

  • March 21, 2018

Call for late arrivals

  • Stef, Indra

Motion to Adjourn

  • Gerry moved. Greg seconded. No objections, comments or abstentions. Adjourned.

Meeting Adjourned at 1:32 PM PST

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